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General Stock Discussion / Re: Coronavirus and downloads?
« on: February 06, 2020, 10:11 »

As you mention it, I don't remember ever having a download from China.

Downloads from China are never shown as a location as China has restrictions, I think the geomapping software doesn't work for China.

In the old style ss map, downloads from China would appear in the centre of the map, close to the west coast of Africa. Now they just don't put the downloads on the map and in the list of downloads they just put a hyphen to replace location, I think. I can't remember exactly as I haven't had a download from China in a while.

China does appear on the map and did on the old map.  Downloads from China usually dry up for me in the first quarter every year plus Shutterstock have had a dispute with China recently so downloads will be down regardless.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock complying with Chinese censors
« on: December 12, 2019, 15:44 »
Why bite the hand that feeds you? Yes I know China is an evil dictatorship. I would not want to live there. But it is seemingly a well managed dictatorship, as long as you are han Chinese your lives have gotten better over the decades. If you are Muslim, well that is just really unfortunate, open air concentration camps and all. Which comes back to why bite the hand that feeds you, I was reading about how pretty much all the muslim governments around the world keeps their mouth shut about China's repression of its Muslim minority, they don't want to bite the hands that feed them. China is too important to them economically. I read that a few years ago Turkey's president said something about China's treatment of its Muslims and then China let Turkey know how displeased they were by Turkey's comment and Turkey has never brought it back up again.

Farming humans for organ transplants is a bit beyond the pale for me.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: So, they changed the landing page... again
« on: December 12, 2019, 11:14 »
I don't know, but I can see a few complaints heading their way now. The map is all over the place, Amsterdam is near Prague, the Republic of Korea is in the middle of the Pacific and Istanbul is now in the Himalayas.

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General - Top Sites / Re: Shutterstock portfolio interface change
« on: December 06, 2019, 18:51 »
It's about sharing.  PODs have been doing it for a good while, if you don't share you don't earn.

I told you so :)

https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/new-contributor-portfolio-page

Update #5: A clickable website link for another portfolio
I'm curious how much would they like it if it would be a link to my portfolio on some other stock site :D

My link goes to a bouncesite, which has links to 17 other agencies and PODs where I sell my work, so I guess they will let me know what they think. :)  No, I don't think they care, they just want you to spread links all over social media back to Shutterstock.

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General - Top Sites / Re: Shutterstock portfolio interface change
« on: December 06, 2019, 14:33 »
It's about sharing.  PODs have been doing it for a good while, if you don't share you don't earn.

I told you so :)

https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/new-contributor-portfolio-page

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New Sites - General / Re: Wemark - Are they still alive?
« on: December 02, 2019, 16:16 »
I don't doubt something new will come and disrupt the market....its inevitable in all industries...if I knew what and when I would be living on a Bond style villa on a caribbean island.

True, but Microstock is the thing that disrupted the photo market.  ;D

I just went and looked at my Etherium account, sad, sad, sad. No worse than some of the stocks I bought in the last four years. 1 in 4 went up, speculation in crypto currency mining, -97%, rail -99%, Mfg company -51%, and Ferrari which was reviewed as over valued... up 200% They don't know, they are just writers.

If the people writing the investment columns were so in tune and informed, they wouldn't be writing investment columns, they would be "living on a Bond style villa on a caribbean island.".  :)

and then there is all the sites distributing copyright-free images trying their best to disrupt microstock.  Canva could well be their champion.

We believe everyone should have access to great design ingredients for their visuals; this is why free content will always play a central role in Canvas vision of democratising design. Together with Pexels and Pixabay, well be able to help people discover a whole new world of amazing, fresh content. With over 1 million images downloaded over 500 million times on their platforms combined, both Pexels and Pixabay have proven that there is a huge demand for free quality content from small businesses, social media marketers and others not just from designers and companies with big budgets, shared Perkins.

Pexels cofounder Ingo Joseph said, Theres a lot of synergy between Canva and Pexels;  its a perfect match. No other design platform truly believes in the mission of empowering the world with design and providing free stock content that is central to their mission like Canva. Todays announcement signifies a huge step forward in the right direction. Were on our way to put an end to cheesy stock photos and open the doors to more authentic, trending content for free.

Pixabay cofounder Hans Braxmeier added, The vision of Pixabay is to become the Wikipedia for free media. Therefore, community has always been our core focus and a testament to our continued success at Pixabay. We knew right from the start that we wanted to expose our talented contributors to highly engaged audience and showcase their work. We also knew that we wanted to empower creators who are hungry for content sourced from all around the globe this is why were thrilled to partner with Canva to continue on our mission of revolutionising the free stock media space.

I bet Ms Perkins is thumbing through her Caribbean Islands for Sale catalogue as we speak.

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Wouldn't be much of a brand identity if you had to share your logo with an hundred other brands.

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New Sites - General / Re: Wemark - Are they still alive?
« on: December 02, 2019, 08:09 »

Right, Right and Right. They blame the market crash and under funding. Neglecting to admit a smoke and mirrors project, using the Kodak name licensed, promising us something invisible and asking buyers to use coins instead of money. Whether crypto currency will make it in 5 years or 10 or 20, the plan was mostly and answer to a question that no one asked and a solution that didn't hold water.

Seems the link wasn't posted, so I thought maybe some would like reading the market speak and selling points that are nothing but vapor.

https://medium.com/wemark-stories/wemark-is-shutting-down-4348e41340e

Lets stop believing in these new agencies that will change something or disrupt the industry or are the next big thing.

Leaf, you might move Wemark to agencies that no longer exist?  ;)

Wemark had no connection with Kodak, that was another one that didn't get off the ground.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: November Earnings Report
« on: November 30, 2019, 15:40 »
Great info, as always.Do you, by any chance, know what we actually earn at Alamy. When I go to Sales history the Amount is actually the price the picture is sold for? And then there is 40% for Alamy and additional 30% if it is a partner sale, which usually is?

Thanks!

What shows up on your dashboard is the gross sale price. To get more details you actually have to go into 1. My Alamy tab 2. Account balance. There you'll be able to see how much each has earned, both as gross and then net...commissions at Alamy are on three different tiers: exclusive sale (50%), or non-exclusive sale (40%) or distribution sale (30%). On that table you'll also see what has been cleared by the client and what is still pending. Hope that helps!
Thank you, it helps a lot. It shows how dishonest Alamy is by hiding the most important information (the amount I earn from a sale) under several clicks and weird and complicated information table. On the front page you are just prompted with gross sale that makes you think that you made a huge sale, since thats what we are used to see on other agencies - the amount we earn.

I don't think I would call that dishonest myself, but I will say that when I worked for the NHS information for patients had to be written so that a ten year old could read it, maybe they could follow that example.

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Anybody have a feeling of dj vu?

https://www.shutterstock.com/blog/what-premier-select-means-for-shutterstock-contributors

but then again Adobe isn't Shutterstock, but then again Shutterstock wasn't Istock.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Maybe a stupid idea.
« on: November 17, 2019, 13:40 »
Would anyone want to buy images already sold RF, I don't think so. That leaves new untried images and unsold works that have proved to have little demand.  I don't know about you, but I think that the next image I upload is better than the last and maybe that new best seller. They could buy my unsold stuff in batches cheap enough, but would they just choke up the auction with crap?

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Is anyone contributing to the Premier Collection seeing a drop?  As Adobe converts more and more buyers to being Enterprise Clients those high earners not in the the Premier Collection will be squeezed hard by a loss of buyers and more contributors competing for what is left.  Same thing happened at Shutterstock, all buyers are not equal and all contributors are not equal anymore, it is not a level playing field.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock reviewers are idiots
« on: November 14, 2019, 14:06 »
It's a program. The same one on SS and BS.

Can't find how to skip it, but I'm still learning.

Computers are stupid.

if it were a computer results wouldn't vary - we've shown that's not the case

unless it is doing some sort of machine learning - where it does change over time.

machine learning on ONE BATCH?  impossible

It's only one batch it it's yours, how about splitting several thousand batches between moderators and AI to find out how to improve things.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock reviewers are idiots
« on: November 14, 2019, 12:51 »
The survey is from the Shutterstock Contributor Care Team, who don't work for Shutterstock.  Once there work is done i.e referred back to Shutterstock (our dedicated team) they send the survey for your say with regards to the bit that they have done for you.  The dedicated team will be the people in charge of the reviewers or those in charge of AI, who one would imagine would work in concert to improve the AI.  If the reviewing department do a good job they would do themselves out of a job, since it's been several years since the introduction of the AI they obviously don't want to do that.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock reviewers are idiots
« on: November 08, 2019, 21:08 »
I think we have been given the job of training the AI and have not got the hang of it yet.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia officially closed
« on: November 06, 2019, 15:25 »

It's incredible how so many people here can't figure out how to search in their own portfolio. Seriously it's not rocket science.

Go to your account page at this link https://contributor.stock.adobe.com/en/account

Then click on "see my public profile", then type banana in search and only your bananas will show up. Hope we are  all happy monkeys now.


I think you missed the point, people want to actually do something with the results not just browse their past triumphs.

You have made an additional point.

I was answering the following, "I do miss not being able to search my portfolio...by keyword rather than id number."

and "When I say "searching" I mean writing in a field a word or a short phrase that will return all the corresponding images, and only those images."

A portfolio search is possible but only in the frontend, as Uncle Pete says, bookmark your link.

I take that as confirmation that you did indeed miss the point.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia officially closed
« on: November 06, 2019, 14:29 »
Still missing the possibility to search in the own portfolio on AS.

https://stock.adobe.com/search/images?creator_id=

You can search your own with a little effort.

You need to add your ID number and then bookmark. That's my bookmark, minus my ID number. I don't know if there's anywhere on the contributor panels, I just use that one, that I created myself. I'd do that for anyone who's not anonymous, otherwise no way to help past that link.  :)

If you click that link above, you will need to add =######### for example = plus your ID number, or it won't work.

If you copy and paste the link, the = stays, just add your ID number

No, this is not "searching" in my portfolio.
This is watching my portfolio (and this I know how to do it from the first day of Adobe Stock)
When I say "searching" I mean writing in a field a word or a short phrase that will return all the corresponding images, and only those images.
For example if in the search field I write banana it should show me all my images with the keyword "banana" or "banana" in the title (as you can do with the catalog manager in Shutterstock).
I find it unacceptable that a company like Adobe, which claims to be at the forefront of technology, cannot do so.....

It's incredible how so many people here can't figure out how to search in their own portfolio. Seriously it's not rocket science.

Go to your account page at this link https://contributor.stock.adobe.com/en/account

Then click on "see my public profile", then type banana in search and only your bananas will show up. Hope we are  all happy monkeys now.

I think you missed the point, people want to actually do something with the results not just browse their past triumphs.

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I keep wondering where the bottom is to where supply starts dropping and these sites are forced to reverse the downward trend on contributors. Given the record profits of the sites and the massive amount of new contributors who are okay earning peanuts, seems to be a long long way off. Or maybe there is no bottom and stock photography is replaced by something else like AI to where we're no longer needed.

The bottom is obviously free and it's booming, everyone is a photographer these days it is said and many are even willing to give away their copyright.  The only reason to pay an agency is to purchase the indemnity, the images no longer have any value. So the bottom of microstock is determined by the cost of indemnity.

Mid priced premium RF is the only place to put your images now if you want a decent return, but that is usually by invitation only and is getting crowded with all the agencies chasing that market.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Good bye Adobe Stock from Venezuela.
« on: October 28, 2019, 16:02 »
I asked them to treat me like a contributor from Venezuela and deactivate my account on the 28th, so far I still have access to it.

Man, that was a gutsy thing to do. Did you get any personal response to that request?

Not so gutsy, I only make enough to feed a cat, but the cats were fighting to see which one got fed.
Response was "We are sorry to lose you as a contributor.  Adobe as a global company is subject to the recent Presidential Executive Order in the United States." Mat
Which just goes to prove that they cannot read.

Adobe gave me the same response, when i ask, why they close my account, because i'm not a supporter or member of Nicolas Maduro government.

Well we are not out the woods yet, we still have Maduro and Trump and a global Adobe who go by the laws of Trumpton, the Canadian setup must just be there to avoid paying taxes there.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Good bye Adobe Stock from Venezuela.
« on: October 28, 2019, 15:36 »
I asked them to treat me like a contributor from Venezuela and deactivate my account on the 28th, so far I still have access to it.

Man, that was a gutsy thing to do. Did you get any personal response to that request?

Not so gutsy, I only make enough to feed a cat, but the cats were fighting to see which one got fed.
Response was "We are sorry to lose you as a contributor.  Adobe as a global company is subject to the recent Presidential Executive Order in the United States." Mat
Which just goes to prove that they cannot read.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Good bye Adobe Stock from Venezuela.
« on: October 28, 2019, 12:49 »
I asked them to treat me like a contributor from Venezuela and deactivate my account on the 28th, so far I still have access to it.

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once they are out in the wild who would know who owns the copyright.

Ignorance of ownership is no excuse. And, in any case, if you don't help yourself to stuff you don't own you are not going to end up on the wrong side of a claim.

You're not wrong, but there is a big difference in theory and practice.  In microstock terms, with RF licenses and the meager sums they earn not making it worthwhile getting copyright registrations for each image, it would be practically impossible to sue anyone.

Unless that person was a famous star and you took the photo, then it might be worthwhile to copyright the image and sue them? Minor detail, you have 90 days to copyright an image after the use. That might even be, discovery of the illegal use. But any way you want to slice it, 90 days. I wonder how much these two cases will settle for? Asking for $150,000 doesn't mean they will get that. And the lawyers will take a nice chunk of whatever is won, if anything.

This is a lesson and I'm sure celebs will learn they can't just steal the images, even if it's their own image.  8)


They don't learn very fast as similar cases have been going on for a while now, but those photos are not microstock or RF and their agencies are willing to get involved, would ours? no.

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How much would it cost you to register the copyright for all your images?
How would you know, barring watermarks, who has purchased a RF license and who has not? 
How many successful claims would it take to cover the cost in time and money registering copyright and hunting down infringers?

Answer those three questions and then you will know if it's an effective tool, but ask yourself who stands to gain most from this bureaucratic system of extortion? 

Somehow I don't think there will be long queues at the small claims court for while yet, maybe one man from Getty with a trolley full of files.


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once they are out in the wild who would know who owns the copyright.

Ignorance of ownership is no excuse. And, in any case, if you don't help yourself to stuff you don't own you are not going to end up on the wrong side of a claim.

You're not wrong, but there is a big difference in theory and practice.  In microstock terms, with RF licenses and the meager sums they earn not making it worthwhile getting copyright registrations for each image, it would be practically impossible to sue anyone.

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Adriana Lima shared one of my images on Instagram once, it got 88,914 likes and 2,094 comments, on facebook it got 4,500 likes, 224 comments and 641 shares. As far as I know that's as viral as I've got and I didn't even get a credit, but once they are out in the wild who would know who owns the copyright.

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