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4000clips...

So you make around $6,500 a month or more? Result!

A few hundred dollars in the short term? First, short term implies there's a long term... there could be, there might not be, no matter whether you or I contribute to subscription sites or not.

As for a few hundred dollars, I've made $17K just from unlimited subscription plans in the last 12 months. Not saying that to blow my own trumpet, just to show you that it's a little bit more than a few hundred dollars. And is there much difference in getting that money in the short term rather than in the long term? Is there a long term? Are subscription sites the new long term and you're just missing out on a few hundred dollars (or several thousand dollars) in the short term?
It all depends how this 17k from subs in a year erode your sales on other agencies..likely you would have done the same money or more without go on subs plan because buyers shop around and when they see the same footage on unlimited subs plan forget to sell it at normal price and say good buy to the 20/25$ per clip...
I define long term business decades not months...
I don't like to share my numbers public,i don't have to feed my ego...i'll pm it to you..

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With how many total clips though?

And I make enough money as well, I just decided to give the subscription sites a try and now I make more than I did before giving them a try. Sorry, but me having a couple of bad months on one of the many sites I contribute to, isn't proof that I can't compete on quality, or that subscription sites are the end of the world as we know it.

I worked it out by the way... I make roughly $20 per clip, per year on SS, AS and iS.
4000clips...
Btw you'll see how unlimited subs plans will eat your sales on fixed price agencies...just sit and wait...and that's because there are many short sighted amateurs that fed them to earn few more hundreds dollars in the short run...why do you think ss followed the same path??now you'll see a big drop on your ss income just because of unlimited sub plans..


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Ok, so if we just go with fixed price agencies... SS, AS and iStock... then what would be the cut-off point for you when it comes to having a hard time selling there, versus not having a hard time selling there (on the basis of average revenue per item over the last 12 months)?

$1, $5, $10, $20, $50, $100, $200, $500?

You must have a figure in mind if you feel I'm unable to compete on quality versus price? I honestly don't know what the figure is, but I'll be 'doing the math' shortly, and I'll let you know! If it is $500 (which I'm pretty confident it's nowhere near) then I really don't think that counts as having a hard time selling... and if it's $1 or less then I'd probably agree with you... but there must be a line between the two?

i can tell you that i make enough money without to have to lower my price or sell on subs plans...if you need to do that(after 10 years of stock footage??)maybe your quality is not good enough to compete at fixed price...i consider a good month at ss when i get over 200 sales...

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Thankfully the one place where I've consistently not had a drop in earnings, is the unlimited subscription sites. Videoblocks....

Jan: 225
Feb: 300
Mar: 389
April: 674
May: 448



meanwhile your sales on ss collapse...strange coincidense here...

Well it is a strange coincidence if it only started in the last couple of months (if I've been on subscription sites for a couple of years), subscription sites have existed for several years, and only my SS and AS sales are falling, when Pond5 and everywhere else are steady. I appreciate you want to blame everything on subscription sites due to the intense disgust you feel for them, but it doesn't seem to tally. What's wrong with the Pond5 buyers? Brand loyalty, they like spending more money, they do less research about competition? Why are Sstr's sales dropping on SS if he doesn't contribute to sub sites? Is that my fault as well, or just subscription sites in general?

Ir's pretty clear...you sell where you can undercut other artists like subscription plans or pond5 where you can set your price lower...it seems you have hard time to sell on agencies with fixed price where the competition is on quality and not price...

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Thankfully the one place where I've consistently not had a drop in earnings, is the unlimited subscription sites. Videoblocks....

Jan: 225
Feb: 300
Mar: 389
April: 674
May: 448



meanwhile your sales on ss collapse...strange coincidense here...

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Anyway, count yourself lucky... my balance for the entire month is $1.20! And that's from two sales!! (Feb $192, Mar $180, Apr $59, May $1.20)

It happens when a buyer can find your clips for free on the
Unlimited subs plan around...fortunately i didn't,and my sales are on average if i look the stats since april 2019 considering coronavirus..

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Dissolve / Re: Is it worth uploading to disolve?
« on: May 19, 2020, 07:59 »
Two years later, any new reviews or opinions?
I mean new news, not what is written above.
Friendly or hostile?
Do they sell or not?
Pricing? I see HD clips advertised from $24?
Would this be a good alternative for SS now on or not?

Thanks!

they sell not much but the price is still 79/179$....so for me it's worth to upload there...
the 24$ per clip you see comes from people that submit the same clip at lower price somewhere else so dissolve matches the lower price..i find it fair...

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Shutterstock.com / Re: May sales drop dramatically?
« on: May 13, 2020, 12:58 »
For me:

SS is above average for first half of May. Will see how it goes till the end. January and February were disaster on SS, but it came back from March, topping average in May.
P5 where i have most of my portfolio slowed last few months.
AS very slow as usual, but kinda warming up in 2020.

Do you guys sell somewhere else, and if yes where?  :-[    I sold on few more platforms, but removed files and accounts (storyblocks, dreamstime, motionelements..)



May i ask you why did you close your account on storyblock and motionelements??

Well Storyblocks closed themselves because of their own marketplace. Motionelements was super slow (only few sales in 2-3 years) with some new licensing or whatever "promotions" that i didn't like, so i went away.

Are you on those platforms?

No way!!! i only submit to agencies that pay me fair and don't give away my work for free...i'm not in any unlimited download subscription plan...

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Shutterstock.com / Re: May sales drop dramatically?
« on: May 13, 2020, 03:25 »
For me:

SS is above average for first half of May. Will see how it goes till the end. January and February were disaster on SS, but it came back from March, topping average in May.
P5 where i have most of my portfolio slowed last few months.
AS very slow as usual, but kinda warming up in 2020.

Do you guys sell somewhere else, and if yes where?  :-[    I sold on few more platforms, but removed files and accounts (storyblocks, dreamstime, motionelements..)

May i ask you why did you close your account on storyblock and motionelements??

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Hey,

i just applied to become a contributor at Envato Elements and after some time of entering data I finally reached a site telling me:

Your Application has been submitted successfully. GoodLuck!
If you are successful you should expect an email from the team - this can take up to 5 weeks
If you are unsuccessful you won't hear from us.
We appreciate your patience!


This must be a joke... are they serious? If i didn't make it, they don't even send a f...ing email?

If I make it there, i will immadiatly close down that account... unbelievable how photographers are treated these days :)

What to expect from an agency that give your work away for peanuts...i wondering how an artist that value his work submit to an agency like this....

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Shutterstock.com / Re: May sales drop dramatically?
« on: May 08, 2020, 02:54 »
I'm seeing a bit less sales on ss but pond5 and as are on average..obviously the reason is hard to know but i guess covid19 and its economic impact will affect all of us in some way...

112
Hey guys, for all you drone 4k video stock creators or video creators, just wondering if anyone is removing digital noise and frame flicker that we get from alot of the DJI Mavic Pro drone shots that is avoidable. Also is everyone stabilizing there footage as well to make extra smooth? Please advise. Thanks!
if it's a daylight footage it can't be flicker but the way the dji mavic pro compresses the footage...it's called iframe flicker...
https://www.reddit.com/r/VideoEditing/comments/5recqd/tool_to_remove_iframe_flickering_from_dji_mavic/

113
Shutterstock.com / Re: Video Thief on Shutterstock
« on: April 23, 2020, 18:00 »
thanxx for sharing...

114
Newbie Discussion / Re: Selling 3D Animations
« on: April 23, 2020, 03:47 »
Videohive is a joke. $11 (or less) for a 3D render? Yeah right, one week of rendering and you can earn pennies? No way, I'll stay with Adobe.

Then don't sell them at $11 then, sell them at the same as Adobe... or more. And even if you were to sell them at $11, you'd probably make it up in volume. I make more on VideoHive than any other agency, even with lower prices. While it's nice to get a high royalty per download... I'm much less concerned with how much I earn per download, than I am how much I have in my bank at the end of the month.

Here,you can easily understand where the race to the bottom begin...

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It's so sad. And I was just about to go all in on stock video...... :-(

Would a sign pettion be any idea?

Right... My best piece advice is that, if you were about to go all in (assuming you're not being sarcastic), then go all in. Then draw your own conclusions later on based on your own results and not on someone else's opinion on your results or their results.

Currently, the SS video subscription does not include Extended/Premium video licenses, only the Standard ones. And to be fair, SS is one of the few agencies (if not the only one at the moment) where it's not that uncommon at all to get between $100 to $300 on a single video sale.

Oddly enough, I don't hear much contributor kerfuffle over the fact that the cameras they shoot with or the machines they edit their imagery on now cost a ludicrously tiny fraction and are dozens of times more powerful when compared with what could be bought not that long ago...

I can only imagine the manufacturers of that gear flocking to forums like these moaning over the fact that you can now buy an entry-level laptop for 150 bucks when they used to retail for 10 times as much in the "good old days", and this is the race to the bottom. Same for ballpoint pens, which must have cost a fortune when they first introduced (somehow a premium commodity with elementary school students in the early 80s) and now cost a dime a dozen.

If you look at 99% of the industries out there, you'll hear the exact same rant against the "race to the bottom": food, electronics, translation, paper, hospitality, you name it. That's just the nature of economics. I rather focus on the tiny bit I can control rather than on what I can't.

All the best with your foray into stock video.

camera pc and other gears are just a small part of the process....actors need to be payed...time to set up a scene remains the same...location price is still there...
my first thought was i'm not going to hire actors or rent a location anymore,and i guess i'm not the only one...it doens't worth anymore to invest money with such low price....

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This is exactly like pond5 membership...not good but not bad as unlimited subs like envato or storyblocks..i see hard times for those agencies since shutterstock gets into subs plan model...
 Btw we'll follow the photo path..

117
Adobe Stock / Re: 2020 Adobe Stock Artist bonus program
« on: April 01, 2020, 03:42 »
Matt may i ask you ,why a videographer needs to earn around 20000k  to get all plan apps and a photographer needs around 2000$(depending on rpd)???
It's huge difference..
Btw i really appreciate the bonus..

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Adobe Stock / Re: 2020 Adobe Stock Artist bonus program
« on: March 31, 2020, 17:59 »
I think it's easier for photographer to hit the target rather than videographer...

Yep... I mean 625 video downloads in a year, that's about $20K in earnings. I'm guessing 5000 photo downloads is a lot less.

yes,you're right!!!
they could even place steps...from 150/1000 credits one program from 1000/2000 two programs and so on...

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Adobe Stock / Re: 2020 Adobe Stock Artist bonus program
« on: March 31, 2020, 09:44 »
I think it's easier for photographer to hit the target rather than videographer...

120
Adobe Stock / Re: 2020 Adobe Stock Artist bonus program
« on: March 30, 2020, 14:03 »
Let me understand if i get it right...
From 150to4999 credits i can choose 1 app between
1:photography creative plan
2:Illustrator
3:Premiere
4:After effects
5:Indesign
Over 5000 credits all apps creative clouds
??

121
General Stock Discussion / Re: Coronavirus ?
« on: March 29, 2020, 04:28 »
competition rarely lowers prices -- yes, FDA rules handicapped us,

Lol at your first statement (which is so easily dismissable, it's not even worth arguing about) -- and yes, I'm glad that you agree with me on the second one. We have here a very clear example of how the regulations (like the ones your asking for) not just handicapped us, but led to preventable deaths.

We are making progress!  ;D

The next step is to understand how monopolies and the associated price gauging practices are flourishing under the protection of tough regulations (cronyism)


In my country we were sold the same BS about competition lowering prices.  With that BS, the EU forced our government to privatize strategic sectors of the economy (fuel, energy, transportation, etc.). Sectors that in most part already had private companies operating and competing with the state company.

When the state sold all those companies and all became private, what happened was that cartels were immediately formed to combine prices. Forget about competition driving prices down. Now you pay what the cartels want you to pay.

With the privatizing of those profitable businesses, the profits instead of coming directly to the State and used in the betterment of the country, now go to the pocket of Capitalists.

You may argue that the state still get revenue from taxes, but that's also not true. Those capitalists moved the fiscal headquarters of the companies to countries like Netherlands where they pay less taxes. Netherlands and other countries like it, in turn benefit from wealth sucked from my country without spending a dime on it. Much like parasites. In other cases, Capitalists hide the money on off-shores not paying taxes.

You may also argue that it's the state and government job to investigate those illegalities. With so much power in the hands of capitalists, not only they buy the politicians in power, the State loss of revenue due to the mentioned above now has no means or funding to act.

Plus, in my country capitalism and the competition/prices babble was used to crush the producers cutting the price paid to them (look at what also happened to us  photographers). In the end, consumers are not paying less and workers are earning much less, but capitalists are richer than ever.

Since the privatizing of all those companies our level of living regressed to the same we had in the 70's. And man, were we poor back then!
Totally agree...
Btw if it's true that capitalists are taking most of the pie,it's even true that our lifestyle has improved much...

122
General Stock Discussion / Re: Coronavirus ?
« on: March 28, 2020, 08:10 »
It's funny how people from all over the world criticize their political leaders...if they were right all politicals are morons...the real truth is that the whole world system was unprepared...and i call it capitalism....capitalism system doesn't store resources but eat them all...that's why every states in the world is facing the same problem...lack of resources...medical in this case..

And what is your alternative? Communism? Communism where all resources are wasted, generating all sorts of shortages, even during regular times?

Morons in power is our problem. Populist morons in power.

Populist morons like dear Boris, who was shaking hands with infected people to prove how stupid he is.
Or populist morons like dear Donald, who said, for a long time, that everything is a hoax, (instead of getting ready), to prove how stupid he is.
I don't have any alternative,and i don't pretend to be the one who has the solution,i only stated how capitalism works..and i didn't say it's worst than comunism..btw we leave in this system and politics can act only inside this system and stocking resources
for future crisis pandemics or whatever you want it's not allowed by the capitalism nature itself...you can blame all politics are morons but the reality is that if you replace them things won't change because of the system rules...

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Coronavirus ?
« on: March 27, 2020, 19:08 »
It's funny how people from all over the world criticize their political leaders...if they were right all politicals are morons...the real truth is that the whole world system was unprepared...and i call it capitalism....capitalism system doesn't store resources but eat them all...that's why every states in the world is facing the same problem...lack of resources...medical in this case..

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Shutterstock.com / Re: All 1,50$ sales from ashburn??
« on: March 22, 2020, 19:33 »
Hi.does all your 1,50$ sales come from ashburn usa??
All my 1,50$ footage sales comer from there...it looks odd...

Are you sure there's a H in that?  ;D More like what the payment represents.

Our Ashburn, VA data center is one of the largest data centers in the United States, boasting 360,000 square feet. Of that square footage, 176,200 square feet is a raised floor area perfect for our server requirements.


https://www.krypt.com/en/company/datacenters/iad

  ;D ;D...
Btw i don't get it..if only the payment comes from there where in the world all these clips have been bought??

The reported location is the IP address of the buyer, that's how SS reports the location. Someone using a VPN could show as anywhere in the world. The location information we get is possibly of no use.

Why is the location important? I'm sure I'll see some good reasons. Personally I don't see anything that would help me sell more, if I knew the locations. I mean from the locations I see already, I don't see anything useful for mine.

How is location important or useful? How can someone use that to improve sales or ideas for creating new stock? That's an interesting subject?

not that important...i was just planning to go to ashburn and burn down every production company... ;D ;D
just joking,i was only curious...

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Shutterstock.com / Re: All 1,50$ sales from ashburn??
« on: March 21, 2020, 13:10 »
Hi.does all your 1,50$ sales come from ashburn usa??
All my 1,50$ footage sales comer from there...it looks odd...

Are you sure there's a H in that?  ;D More like what the payment represents.

Our Ashburn, VA data center is one of the largest data centers in the United States, boasting 360,000 square feet. Of that square footage, 176,200 square feet is a raised floor area perfect for our server requirements.


https://www.krypt.com/en/company/datacenters/iad

  ;D ;D...
Btw i don't get it..if only the payment comes from there where in the world all these clips have been bought??

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