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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock just became iStock 2.0
« on: June 02, 2020, 19:16 »
Obviously they want a crowd of mobile phone newbies to grow their collection, uploading like crazy just to reach that next level all while never passing level 1 and maximizing SS profits. If you read between the lines in their announcement that's exactly what they are saying.
They wanted that for some time now, first they let anyone with mobile phone in - carefully waiting for mobile phone camera tech to mature to decent image quality level, then they advertise for contributors in developing countries and now when they have enough newbie contributors they roll out the system.
We might be mad, but newbies will be swarming facebook groups announcing they just made their first 0.10$ sale or payout and congratulate each other on it, while SS is laughing their *ss off.
SS are betting that from quantity there will be just enough quality not to look like complete trash collection in the eyes of buyers and competition.     

It's a system very well known in any third world or developing country in every single company (especially the foreign western companies that come to exploit minimum wage workforce), you don't need to know your job, you'll learn something (or not, doesn't matter as long as you do what your boss tells you), but you must work for minimum wage or we will replace you in an instant. The quality of product is not that important too.
This might come as shock to westerners, but for us from developing countries it's everyday reality, I expected this exact thing from SS and I'm sure all other microstock companies will follow eventually.

There have been several attempts to run a stock agency mostly on the iphone shooter, eyeem being the last attempt.

The problem: this enthusiastic crowd has zero interest in creating the content customers need: high quality, very modern very fresh content of business teams, great lifestyle of families etc...

Just because people have a phone, it does not make them good photographers. Just look at any social media feed on any site. What people normally shoot is ugly and very low quality.

Eyeem tries to filter a few useful files out of millions and sends them to getty to round out the large getty library. So that customers who want images with taken by amateur with iphone style is something they have available.

Just look at the flickr collection or the eyeem collection on getty, and you will quickly see, that while some of the images are interesting, the majority are useless for the serious buyer.

I interpreted what they said in the opposite way, that they want to get rid of all the small time uploaders and mostly work with teams and stock factories.

They could drastically downsize their editing team and probably streamline quite a few other things internally.

In the last 3 years they blew up the library drastically so that they can go round saying they have a library with over 300 million files.

Now they want to cut it all down to more professional content.

What they didnt think of is that even large stock houses have their pride and will not accept their work sold for 10 cents.

The pros have a lot of options and, just like anyone else, do not appreciate having their income cut in the middle of a pandemic with 6 days notice.

I wouldnt be surprised if it was exactly the top quality shooters they were hoping will stay who walk out first.

eta: the best selling content in eyeem does not come from amateurs with a phone. Many top sellers are normal photographers or professional stock shooters who just produce content with social media vibe specifically for eyeem.

Whatever way you turn it: high quality fresh stock with great vibe and sales value always comes from very experienced people.

I think you might be overestimating SS's need for quality, we all witnessed how they opened their gates for signups with virtually no entry test and also let in all kinds of mediocre images spam. When I write phone shooter I also mean any kind of total amateur, whatever the equipment but I used it as example as there is swarm of newbie questions on facebook groups and in majority of these you can see the screenshots of SS mobile app.
I'm not convinced they are trying to filter out newbies and rely on top contributors from which they get smaller percentage. I think they want to filter out middle ground the most.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock just became iStock 2.0
« on: June 02, 2020, 04:02 »
Obviously they want a crowd of mobile phone newbies to grow their collection, uploading like crazy just to reach that next level all while never passing level 1 and maximizing SS profits. If you read between the lines in their announcement that's exactly what they are saying.
They wanted that for some time now, first they let anyone with mobile phone in - carefully waiting for mobile phone camera tech to mature to decent image quality level, then they advertise for contributors in developing countries and now when they have enough newbie contributors they roll out the system.
We might be mad, but newbies will be swarming facebook groups announcing they just made their first 0.10$ sale or payout and congratulate each other on it, while SS is laughing their *ss off.
SS are betting that from quantity there will be just enough quality not to look like complete trash collection in the eyes of buyers and competition.     

It's a system very well known in any third world or developing country in every single company (especially the foreign western companies that come to exploit minimum wage workforce), you don't need to know your job, you'll learn something (or not, doesn't matter as long as you do what your boss tells you), but you must work for minimum wage or we will replace you in an instant. The quality of product is not that important too.
This might come as shock to westerners, but for us from developing countries it's everyday reality, I expected this exact thing from SS and I'm sure all other microstock companies will follow eventually.

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hi Somebody can explain to me how shutterstock can survive with this kind of Subscription ? If i made 2000$ per month for exemple and now i fall to 500$ The company also lost money. How can they pay there bill ?  I dont understand the change. Probably they dont sell lot of photo anymore. This is my only opinion about that.

They are selling for the same price and just giving you a smaller percentage, so they earn more and you earn less.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Silly question but....
« on: May 21, 2020, 05:05 »
I don't get it, first you post in IS forums and talk about Deepmeta, then you talk about AS...?

It takes days for both of them to get reviewed and then some more to appear online after they get accepted.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Latest sales - down quite a bit
« on: May 21, 2020, 05:02 »
BME thanks to one old photo they all thought was covid related.

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Lots of threads about rejections on SS these days but I also don't share that experience, all seems normal. The only time I get rejection is when I miss some logo and that's totally valid and my mistake.

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https://www.picworkflow.com/

You pay 1 or 2 cent per picture per upload (via credits you have to buy first).
There is a plugIn for LR, so you can upload right from LR after keywording.
But you still have to visit the different agencies to do the "last bit" - like distributing them into the right category.

Did a lot uf uploads via picworkflow last year.

Now I do most via FTP and only a few via picworkflow. Those, that require small sizes like 20 MB max- picworkflow downsizes pics if you want that option. So they downsize and than upload for the money I pay.

So it does exactly the same thing as Xpiks but takes your money?

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Alamy.com / Re: Vector Illustrations on Alamy
« on: March 29, 2020, 13:46 »
So what about raster (3D renders included) illustrations? Any luck with those?

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No point in stressing over it and wasting any more time. Look how many assets are being uploaded weekly, no workforce can do that reviewing job remotely decent, it's probably just a software mostly.
It just doesn't matter anymore, resubmit if you think you have a strong seller, change title or whatever, it's a waste of time to discuss, a time that could be used for resubmitting or submitting another image. 

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: istock Stats in Jan -- a bit lower
« on: February 18, 2020, 19:10 »
More revenue, more downloads and higher RPD than in December, good month, better than SS. 

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Not to open a new thread, did anyone receive January payment yet?
Yes, hit my bank on 6th Feb.

Hmm still nothing here. Are you using Paypal or bank direct?
Direct to bank

Thanks, it just passed today to Paypal form me.

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Not to open a new thread, did anyone receive January payment yet?
Yes, hit my bank on 6th Feb.

Hmm still nothing here. Are you using Paypal or bank direct?

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Not to open a new thread, did anyone receive January payment yet?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Shutterstock vs Adobe Stock
« on: February 09, 2020, 11:08 »
I have a bit smaller port on Adobe and I get more downloads and at worst two times more RPD. Also new files get traction, while on SS I hardly sell anything new, I doubled my port and it did nothing, just same old bestsellers mostly.

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Absolutely not, I'm not into funding corrupt and incompetent government's new Audis. It's not even regulated or enforced by law.
Strongly depends where you live.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Coronavirus and downloads?
« on: February 05, 2020, 10:43 »
Oh man, my brain didn't work properly, time to dive into modelling 3D virus images and photo sessions with people in masks.

As you mention it, I don't remember ever having a download from China.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: January 2020 Earnings Report
« on: January 31, 2020, 18:50 »
Do you maybe have a clue as to how Eyeem sales report works? Do they report it some days after iStock/Getty reports, or they report in realtime or something else?
I can't seem to understand it, seems totally random, I received reported sales like two weeks ago and today again.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Is this January especially low for you?
« on: January 28, 2020, 15:27 »
It was kinda low until, predictably, they (SS and/or buyers) went into rush mode to top up my standard monthly quota as the month is coming to it's end. So same as any month for years.
I only hope that bumping up my numbers will also bump up the quota. So far no luck, I might need to be faster than time (SS assets rise). 

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Off Topic / Re: have I been in the wrong industry for years?
« on: January 25, 2020, 12:02 »
I'm no expert but I suppose making a theme requires at least a handful of coding and if I wanted to do coding in my life making themes would be the last thing I want code on my list, long below mobile apps and games in this moment.

believe me dude, website coding is much more easy from game or software coding.

That's what I wrote, if I was gonna code a line of theme I might as well go on and learn something more advanced.

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Off Topic / Re: have I been in the wrong industry for years?
« on: January 24, 2020, 10:19 »
I am stock photo contributor for about 10 years, as everyone know, the microstock industry grown up every year but small contributor earnings decrease day by day because of the microstock sale sites are in the race of selling our efforts a little more price than free.. while we complain that our earnings are getting closer to zero, something else is happening somewhere.

https://themeforest.net/item/avada-responsive-multipurpose-theme/2833226?s_rank=1

check that link and you see how strange it is, one wordpress template has sold more than $25 million in 8 years.  :o
when I think to myself, it seems like it is not possible to understand this.

I'm no expert but I suppose making a theme requires at least a handful of coding and if I wanted to do coding in my life making themes would be the last thing I want code on my list, long below mobile apps and games in this moment.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Shutter stock rejections arrgghh
« on: January 07, 2020, 16:13 »
They can't reject as much as I can resubmit.

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Off Topic / Re: What is your dream car?
« on: January 03, 2020, 07:46 »
Alfa Romeo 4c.

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Adobe Stock / Re: How is your December
« on: December 31, 2019, 08:15 »
Suprisengly normal month.

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What number of downloads are we talking about?

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General Stock Discussion / Re: December Earnings Report
« on: December 25, 2019, 09:08 »
It all looks rather sad or even catastrophic, 123RF wins here - 4000+ images = 4$, there are worse but with worse or no expectations at all.
Overall, it all looks like a lot of work and time just by looking at the number of agencies submitted to with rather low return.

Looking at it and comparing it (totally unscientific) to me I get a little feeling of hope given that I have a significantly smaller ports (and less time devoted) but not as smaller returns, thou it could be a sheer illusion on my part.

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