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Microstock News / Re: Zoonar is launching Zoonar.Express
« on: September 07, 2020, 08:46 »
I have a portfolio of 1200 pics on zoonar for about 14 months now and havent sold a single pic yet.
Not worth the effort.

I have 6000 images on Zoonar.
My last sale was in February 2020.
The previous one was in November 2019

Yes, not worth the effort

I do not understand this post. This was a press release about the fact that an agency had founded a new (second) license portal to sell more photos itself in the future. It's no logic to say they haven't sold much so far, so they don't have to do anything to sell more in the future. The attempt in itself is worth it. It is always better than doing nothing or increasing your profit by reducing photo fees. It is clear that no miracles are to be expected. The market no longer produces miracles. It is shrinking ...

He is saying that Zoonar as a whole is not worth the effort. There are little to no sales on the main platform and it's easy to correlate that there would be equally little to no sales with the Express approach.  I have personally never uploaded to Zoonar just because they report so low on the earnings potential scale.  But that's just me.

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My portfolio of 6,800 has been gone since June.  I have made payout in July and will again make payout in August with ZERO assets online.  Another few weeks and that will stop completely.  Well, it should.

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Stocksy / Re: Is it so simple to get in?
« on: August 24, 2020, 11:49 »
I applied way back when they had their first open submission and was rejected.  Still today, I don't know what their criteria is. That's fine.  I am happy for Stocksy, though.  An agency that is mainly successful for contributors is rare today.  Now, I define success loosely because I have zero insights into their financial performance other than reading posts where artists in Stocksy appear happy with their sales.  I'll probably never be in "the club", but I do wish them long term sustainability. 

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Pond5 / Re: Enterprise custom license for pennies?
« on: August 22, 2020, 21:30 »
P5 does fk you the the ash with some of these sales. I just got a 4k sale yesterday and made $1.17. Disgusting.

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StockFresh / Re: Is it dead?
« on: August 21, 2020, 08:22 »
I made about $1- $3 a month there. Been gone for several years.  They just never got any traction, showing how challenging (and expensive) it is to start a micro agency. 

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Shutterstock.com / Re: We are having some impact
« on: August 19, 2020, 09:49 »
What impact? To get better treatment?
Nowadays is much more images rejected because the subject is "too similar". So instead of let's say 10 images are approved 5-7. This means less new images is added. SS made this kind of 'impact'. Their review rules has impact for less uploads, people started focusing on Adobe, DT and others.

Less images added weekly/monthly doesn't mean SS will be "fair, kind and loving" to contributors.

Each coin has two sides: The second one is lots of contributors are happier now. More of you will leave and delete own portfolio, more space will get the majority staying there. Do you think that Sean, Lisa, Monkey Business, will go against Shutterstock and leave the income behind?

I cannot speak for them, but I did get a PM from another big player saying they are NOT deleting their port. 

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Alamy.com / Re: Is Alamy down?
« on: August 19, 2020, 07:54 »
Clear your cache. It works after doing that.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Pixta ,,great news,,
« on: August 18, 2020, 18:18 »
Has anyone even made a plug nickel from this site? Funny how they state right up front that this is to give more sales opportunity to the contributor.  Come on. We know the real reason.

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So right now we haven't come to a decision about the commission rate. I am sending out these surveys because I genuinely want to know what works for all of you guys, so I can implement that onto our service. So I'm hoping to get more responses because at the moment we don't have enough data to make an educated decision.

As for the competition bit, you can rest assured that we are working on something, but I can't say too much about it until the official website is launched!

Prob bit coin.

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Pond5 offers 40% for non-exclusives, which used to be 50%. 60% is only for exclusives. And they randomly changes your pricing to suit their algorithms. People seem to forget the crappy royalty cut Pond5 gave us last year, yet now they're seen as 'one the last of the good agencies'. Well, they're every bit as evil as SS.

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

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Shutterstock.com / Re: So they do use AI to review then...
« on: August 11, 2020, 08:18 »
"I particularly love the folks who love calling those of us who have been in microstock for 15+ years clueless old timers.

I am clueless but not too old yet  :)

In violation of MSG bylaws......+100

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Timing of the royalty cut
« on: August 11, 2020, 08:16 »
If this miserable excuse for a company didn't deserve the name SHITTERSTOCK before, it certainly does now.

I am sooo happy to be outta there.

Me too!  As I read through everything, it almost looks like Oringer is going to sink the company and made this move to squeeze the last out of the company.  The stock WILL NOT hold in the mid $50's, yet he is trying to sell a lot of shares after he artificially pumped up the stock price. Something just doesn't smell right.  Whoever buys at $55 will be making a horrible investment.  It is almost like they are doing a last hoorah to get Oringer and his dog, Pavlov, enriched while the company slowly erodes and is put up for sale.  This was not a move for long term business health, it was a move to enrich a very few people with little long term outlook. So something else is really brewing IMO.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: So they do use AI to review then...
« on: August 08, 2020, 09:53 »
From their SEC filing in 2012. I'm sure that has advanced significantly in eight years.

"We also leverage proprietary review technology to pre-filter images and enhance the productivity of our reviewers"

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1549346/000104746912005905/a2209364zs-1.htm

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy "discoverablity" revisited
« on: August 02, 2020, 08:42 »
It is clearly worth the time to do the super words. I just made a $200 sell Friday. I wish I could make that everyday, but I do get 2-5 sells a month on Alamy. Very fair stock site...

So you are basing this one single data point....a $200 sale... on the value of discoverability keywords? I sell stuff there all the time with 20-30 keywords. Has nothing to do with volume of keywords, it has everything to do with good keywords. Now if Alamy gives you search preference based on having a bazillion keywords vs. 20-30 then there is incentive to scrape for more keywords.  Other than that, relevant keywords win all day.

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Yea, no.  If you have followed her in previous threads you'd clearly see what a troll she/he/it is.

perhaps, but i haven't seen that here - the original statement was a legitimate one and she got slammed based on hypothetical subtext and judgment

Then you need to read more threads.

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Alamy.com / Re: Alamy "discoverablity" revisited
« on: August 01, 2020, 14:01 »
I have 1,366 images that are poor discoverability.  I am not about to go spam my own images.  This is a stupid idea and encourages keyword spamming. 

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Selling illustrations is perfect for people who depend on a wheelchair, who have no voice, who cannot hear, who have mental problems and so on, its a big big chance for them and part of their daily therapy to be accepted by the society.
By the way, the term "underdeveloped country" is politically not correct.

I agree. Please explain why you're upset with people who are fighting for a higher wage that YOU will also benefit from? I really don't get it. If nobody fights, the agencies will just keep dropping royalty rates, and eventually they'll be unsustainable for YOU, too. 10 is OK right now. How about a year from now, when they drop it to 1? Still OK? 0.1? OK then? When you're starving with 0.1 on each sale and Oringer and Pavlovsky are scooping up your money to pay for their extravagant lifestyles, still OK?

At what point does it become not OK for millionaires and billionaires to take your money to buy their pool tables, caviar, champagne and mansions? When does it become not OK for rich white men in The United States to take money from disabled women (I'm assuming you're a woman) in Africa?
Maybe other people telling her whats good for her and being called a Troll for having a different opinion?
Yea, no.  If you have followed her in previous threads you'd clearly see what a troll she/he/it is.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: So they do use AI to review then...
« on: July 31, 2020, 08:14 »
We all knew that.

Since when?

Does this explain all the stolen images and similars (spamfolio's with almost exact copies) that got in while some of us get tight reviews with rejection for similar even if it's a totally different angle or concept? Not to mention all the other ridiculous rejections?
So that would mean some get a free pass (no reviews) while others get the bots?

I think if it was AI they would scan the library for exact copies (or flipped horizontally/vertically) and reject, all in a matter of seconds, no?

Again this only makes sense to me if some would get a free pass while others get AI reviews and after complaining human reviews.

It's been known because they buried that language into their (I believe) SEC filing.  I myself have found it multiple times and it is probably buried in the MSG threads somewhere.  Calling them out back then, they denied it.  Now it turns out to be true after all. So they did, in fact, lie to us all along. Since when? I think it was around 2012 or 2013 or thereabouts.  When images that were perfectly sharp, professional prepared and rejected for being out of focus, that started raising red flags.  And that is about the time we dug into their reporting to find the phrase automated inspection, or something like that.

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Notice that whoever this idiot is never really comes back to have a conversation. They pose a question and then never respond back.  My definition of a troll.

Notice also how those questions are really positioned as statements. It's not really someone wanting to get an answer.

Well stated.

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Notice that whoever this idiot is never really comes back to have a conversation. They pose a question and then never respond back.  My definition of a troll.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock Forum Deactivation
« on: July 24, 2020, 07:43 »
It looks as though SS has removed the forum. If it were a bug even SS would have probably managed to have let us know by now.
Although I'm not surprised considering how badly they have treated contributors over the new rates it does show utter disregard for us.  I wonder how they expect people to keep uploading or reactivate their portfolios with this kind of treatment. 
A complete absence of communication about it.  The least they could have done is to let us know what's going on to save people the trouble of trying to post.
There are a lot of contributors still joining - they must wonder what's going on.

If true, that's okay.  We have this forum. And there isn't a funking thing they can do about it.

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What is the final goal of the protest?
How realistic are all these energy and time consuming actions?

My final goal has been met, and that is to get the fk out of SS.  Im sure you are making better money today than ever before, though. So why do you care?

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Adobe Stock / Re: Out of office (for a month)
« on: July 23, 2020, 20:59 »
Hope youre going somewhere fun.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Deleting images on Shutterstock
« on: July 20, 2020, 18:25 »
Hi,
I am deleting my images on Shutterstock one by one. You probably know why ....
When checking it the next day, I still find many of those images that obviously have not been deleted. They are offered by shutterstock as "Get these images for FREE. Download this image now with a free trial."
How is this possible? Does anyone know how I can get these images deleted permanently?
Your help would be greatly apprechiated.

Might take 90 days to delete, in the contract you agreed to.

I manually deleted 6,800 assets with no limits from SS.  Used the script for the stills and manually killed 2300 videos within two weeks.  I bet they fk with us more by formally limiting how many assets one can delete in a given period.

Hi Mantis, can you tell me the procedure to delete video assets? I only see the way asking SS to delete my account but I would like just to delete my asset by myself as you did.
Thank you

Click on the "portfolio" icon and select "Catalog Manager".  In there you click on the video tab.  Once your videos come up, click on the pencil edit icon on top of the thumbnail.  Your video will open. In the upper tight is a trashcan icon.  Click it, then click yes to confirm deletion.  Go back to Catalog Manager and start the next one.  I can get through 100 videos in about 15 minutes.

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