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I am getting a lot less 99 cents sales and a lot more sales around 1.04 - 1.28.

You are suggesting these may be a replacement for the 3.30 sales?

I don't know, at least with me the sales volume fits the 99 cents pattern.

 So, I will try to be positive and assume Adobe is getting more money in some way.

I agree, I have a similar pattern


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General Stock Discussion / Re: This month's sales
« on: January 03, 2024, 05:07 »
2023/2022


I focused on Adobe, where I only had 1300 files and did not upload for 10 years.

I added around 2300 files and my income increased over 900% year on year. Reached a weekly rank of 253 for a brief moment, now back down to 1040.

Basically from next to nothing to months with several hundred and one month over 1800 dollars with 2-3k files.

This year I want to make a big push for video. And also try to activate istock with normal photos and videos.

Will still submit every day to Adobe and try to round out my port with themes that I have simply never offered.

Especially illustrations, every illustration sale is a sale I never would have had.

I really hope I can activate istock. My old port is still my largest port.

eta: now 1670...hm, need more stuff for spring
8)
Congrats! Using cleverness and skill you deserve your success. Excellent job in 2024 !!!

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General Stock Discussion / Re: AI generated movies from images
« on: November 29, 2023, 07:36 »
I was pretty curious to test at Runway https://runwayml.com/ a new creative tool to AI-generate a video directly from a prompt,  an image + prompt, or simply with brush strokes over an image to specify motion.

The two last posts on my blog https://luisafumi-digitalart.com/blog are dedicated to my attempts.
I enjoyed the ride and I think the last result is not bad at all.

What version are you using? I see free and three more.
just the free one

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Off Topic / Re: I will never use AI
« on: November 27, 2023, 14:24 »

Machine Learning, AI that creates images does not use the original images, it's not making a composite or taking bits and pieces of our images to make new images. The machine is trained to create new images, from what it has learned. At least that's the way AI like Dall-E and Midjourney work.

The original images are never accessed again when someone asks for a new composition. So the whole, "I should get paid, every time my image is used again." is not logical, as all images of that type, style or whatever else, were used only once, but no images are specifically ever used again. AI is making a new image.

I see the decision to use or not as anyone's individual choice. I have fun making some cartoons or basic illustrations. And that's just as needed, now and then. Personally I'm not going to depend on AI for anything, and I like taking real photos. Hopefully people who pay for using images that I create will feel the same.

    

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General Stock Discussion / AI generated movies from images
« on: November 27, 2023, 13:04 »
I was pretty curious to test at Runway https://runwayml.com/ a new creative tool to AI-generate a video directly from a prompt,  an image + prompt, or simply with brush strokes over an image to specify motion.



The two last posts on my blog https://luisafumi-digitalart.com/blog are dedicated to my attempts.
I enjoyed the ride and I think the last result is not bad at all.

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"the sales rate is almost negligible" says it all. Plus, $300 a year for hosting?

Hi Uncle Pete!

the point is, through the agencies I sell pretty well; thus my "almost negligible" (compared to that) is enough to pay for the hosting and leaves me something for a cup of coffee too ;-)
Not to mention that my huuuge options come in very handy to develop and test my customers' websites before delivering them, and to host there a few E-mail accounts for friends and relatives.
Thus all in all, though paradoxically, it's still convenient - or at least no waste :-)

And in case anyone else or you think I'm being at all critical, I admire your effort and the work that went into the site, making it function as it should, and wish you continued success.

❤️

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I never tried licensing microstock on my own but I licensed full priced stock back in the day to magazines & web designers who'd find me via searches. These days, however, I usually only license photos to clients with whom I already have a relationship, such as local magazines & various calendar companies I work with.

Even when I licensed stock regularly to non-clients, while they sometimes found my work via Google, they mostly found it because Photoshelter (my site host since 2008) hosted the URLs of thousands of photographers and search was built into both individual websites and also art directors could go to Photoshelter directly and search all keyworded images that all the photographers' sites they hosted had available to license. So I had that working for me ... the effort to market on my own would have been daunting.

It's a shame that it's no longer viable because Photoshelter has easy stock & print pricing & ecommerce built in, and even lets you do image packages. It's still worthwhile since it also provides unlimited storage of RAW, PSD, etc, excellent organization & search, client sharing tools, private galleries, and numerous templates so even this 65-year-old grandma can build & change my site with ease.

I never had the volume I'd need to make licensing microstock worthwhile but IMHO, even when the market was strong, it only ever made sense to license full priced stock because I could provide unique RM images that weren't on other sites. Today, the microstock model has mostly supplanted RM. My only licenses these days are to clients with whom I already have a relationship, done via private (hidden) galleries set up each of them, a far cry from random Google searches.

Hard to believe how much has changed in 15 years.

Thanks for sharing your experience.

P.S. I love that you are making antique looking images like the books and some Halloween images with the latest AI tech. Beautiful stuff! Great idea licensing as image packs too.


Thank you for sharing your story, I found it quite interesting!
IMHO images like yours are way too beautiful, classy and soulful to be wasted on the microstock market amid those billions of 'click-and-upload' hasty amateurish snapshots. I agree that licensing them individually to people you know and respect is the right way of selling them.

Yes, I'd like to expand the notion of licensing my images as bundles.
Thank you for your kind words!

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"the sales rate is almost negligible" says it all. Plus, $300 a year for hosting?

Hi Uncle Pete!

the point is, through the agencies I sell pretty well; thus my "almost negligible" (compared to that) is enough to pay for the hosting and leaves me something for a cup of coffee too ;-)
Not to mention that my huuuge options come in very handy to develop and test my customers' websites before delivering them, and to host there a few E-mail accounts for friends and relatives.
Thus all in all, though paradoxically, it's still convenient - or at least no waste :-)

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French lawmakers propose new copyright law about generative AI

https://www.technollama.co.uk/french-lawmakers-propose-new-copyright-law-about-generative-ai

interesting highlighting and considerations by the author (of the blog)

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oops, you know yet...
It seems to be  a firefly bonus scheduled for today

https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/firefly-faq-for-adobe-stock-contributors.html

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same here, a pile of money without corresponding sales.
I'm not complaining but... Mat please,  is there a way to know what happens? I would be very grateful for an explanation  :)

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@gameover

this is the smart way to do localized ai images. Use a real image as a background and just ai content at the front.

Great work!
Thank you! You gave me inspiration, you were my Muse   :D

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. . .

In many images the brandenburg gate is wrong, or the quadriga on top etc...


eta

and then there is this image in the search which has nothing to do with berlin, but has berlin in the keywords

https://stock.adobe.com/de/images/bride-and-groom-standing-in-front-of-a-heart-shaped-cake-generative-ai/570122192?prev_url=detail

propos Brandenburger Tor...



Count the columns to believe - I shot it myself  ;D

... just the quarreling couple is Midjourney's

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Adobe Stock / Re: Account blocked - I need help please
« on: August 27, 2023, 03:26 »
I found myself in the same boat. Have been a Fololia/Adobe contributor for 16 years. I had a few AI images accepted, but my portfolio consists mostly of "handmade" photos and videos. Thursday my port was blocked. It's frustrating that there was no warning, no communication, no reply for three days.
tut mir leid zu hren, dass es dich ebenso getroffen hat!
Nun sitzen wir hier im Forum zu dritt in diesem leider mit sehr wenig Information gefllten Boot.
I'm following this thread and I'm very very sorry to hear these extremely unpleasant situations.
Hope that common sense quickly prevails.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Account blocked - I need help please
« on: August 27, 2023, 03:24 »
I found myself in the same boat. Have been a Fololia/Adobe contributor for 16 years. I had a few AI images accepted, but my portfolio consists mostly of "handmade" photos and videos. Thursday my port was blocked. It's frustrating that there was no warning, no communication, no reply for three days.

So sorry to hear this.

Adobe is wrong in the way they are handling established contributors who made a mistake with AI - and doubly wrong because their review process for AI images is so useless it doesn't catch any of the errors.

This isn't an intractable problem. It requires a bit of attention, possibly some extra staff assigned to the task and possibly some code. When a problem AI image is identified in an account more than one year old:

-Disable AI images temporarily while you investigate

-Email the contributor with the image numbers identified as problems and mark them in the contributor interface. Have a few categories of errors and specify what the errors are with each image number

-Block uploading but leave the account open for the contributor to delete items if that's their choice. Payouts should be available if the balance is sufficient.

-Respond to contributors with disabled images within a week - if their accounts are open, the urgency will be less.

-If the investigation takes longer than a week, allow uploading of non-AI images  until issues are resolved.

Established contributors have proved themselves with Adobe Stock. Treating them with respect, even if a mistake has been made (not only by them, but also by the reviewers), is the absolute least they deserve.
Jo Ann, thank you for the well thought and meaningful post. Quite brave of you  :-)

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Hi Everyone,

I would like to share two updates regarding the submission of generative AI images to Adobe Stock. We have updated the contributor portal and added an additional checkbox that eliminates the need for you to attach a property release for generative AI images featuring people or property that are fictional.

In addition, you can now submit photo-realistic generative AI images as asset type photos, i.e., content that looks as though it could have been created by a camera, as long as you check the box that it was created with generative AI tools. All other generative AI content should continue to be submitted as asset type illustrations.

You can read the details on all the updates in our learn and support page here:
https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/generative-ai-content.html

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you,

Mat Hayward
Thank you very much Mat!
Clear and easier now, and (crossing my fingers) quicker  ;)

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I'm following the blog ( https://www.technollama.co.uk/) of  Dr Andrs Guadamuz expert of  Intellectual Property Law at the University of Sussex (also quoted in a post by Jo Ann)
His articles cover topics on copyright, infringement, artificial intelligence and machine learning.

Here a draft  : A Scanner Darkly: Copyright Infringement in Artificial Intelligence Inputs and Outputs
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19fVgFAOK0X0Mwbp-Z5w5WcaeTO8Cx7Lx/view?pli=1

and the last article Authors sue OpenAI for copyright infringement https://www.technollama.co.uk/authors-sue-openai-for-copyright-infringement

Enjoy (as I do)  :)

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@gameover

congrats!

Also trying to do more concepts. But I need a lot more experience to get them right.

Just think out of the box, it's easy!  ;D

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I've encouraged my 17 years old son to create photos using Midjourney for AS. He doesn't know anything about photography. He started uploading images to my AS account 3 months ago, here are the number of sales (remember he's novice):
April: 27 sales
May: 51 sales
June (till 9): 28 sales
He now has 1500 files online (260 under review) and he's planning to upload 500 - 1000 images per month.
I do videos mainly, but I have had around 300 images online for years, and he already exceeded my number of sales for images.

Updated numbers (really interesting experiment) ...

Congrats  ;D  8)

That's really a good start!

Looks like he found out that the idea behind the images plays a decisive role: once I realized it my sales skyrocketed (this week a single image got me $21.25 and another $26.40)

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LOVE IT!

Please upload that, it will bring great money

thank you! I took your suggestion 👍

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BETTER?

I feel sorry but... No.
Why do you never check the images that AI generates for you! ::) It might help you understand some pitfalls
Here is a correction:

I hope you did not already upload it to the stock sites! You should correct this before.
There are buyers who learned reading and writing, even for a language other than their mother tongue  ;)
the trolls are not cultured people...

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