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LOVE IT!

Please upload that, it will bring great money
  ;D ;D
I forgot to add a placard "politeness is obsolete!" - working on it  ;D

BETTER?




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LOVE IT!

Please upload that, it will bring great money
  ;D ;D
I forgot to add a placard "politeness is obsolete!" - working on it  ;D

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Why are you going on a witch hunt against people or agencies that use ai?
I see many people singing the praises of AI...
I only feel free to have my own opinions. An issue for you?
do you live in a dictatorship? or would like to?



(made with AI  :P )

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Midjourney is adding new features - zoom out. The comments are interesting as well as the article itself

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/06/stunning-midjourney-update-wows-ai-artists-with-camera-like-feature/
I used it, here my first attempt: very entertaining  ;D



Midjourney 5.2 tells stories!
you can see the sequence here
https://luisafumi-digitalart.com/blog/2023/06/24/midjourney-5-2-tell-stories/

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I'm guessing one important factor is as follows:

  - Many photos uploaded to Stock sites aren't super saleable....i.e. snapshots, nice landscapes....etc.. Generally with stock, photos with people in "interesting" locations (e.g. offices) sell better. For a photographer, that means hiring models with releases etc., and getting those interesting locations. For AI, it is no problem to include "people" as subjects in "interesting lcations". In general, with good prompts, AI can produce saleable images without having to hire actual models or travel to interesting or challenging locations as a photographer would have to do.

Right!
The AI is a powerful tool and another resource at your disposal. Important is the choice of the subjects and the post processing. Anyway some of my AI generated images are performing very well with more than 50 downloads each and others are approaching...

Congrats!  :)
thank you  ;D

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I'm guessing one important factor is as follows:

  - Many photos uploaded to Stock sites aren't super saleable....i.e. snapshots, nice landscapes....etc.. Generally with stock, photos with people in "interesting" locations (e.g. offices) sell better. For a photographer, that means hiring models with releases etc., and getting those interesting locations. For AI, it is no problem to include "people" as subjects in "interesting lcations". In general, with good prompts, AI can produce saleable images without having to hire actual models or travel to interesting or challenging locations as a photographer would have to do.

Right!
The AI is a powerful tool and another resource at your disposal. Important is the choice of the subjects and the post processing. Anyway some of my AI generated images are performing very well with more than 50 downloads each and others are approaching...

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Adobe Stock / Re: A.I. Legal cases
« on: May 21, 2023, 13:27 »
Lowls,
What prevented anyone before AI from writing their own ideas in one style or another?  In fact, all artists start by absorbing styles from other artists that they like and influence them to write. Isn't that the normal learning process for humans?

Taking the example of music. How many bands exist and still exists with a Beatles-style sound all over the world? I would say hundreds if not thousands.I remember the first time I heard the band Oasis and I felt a kind of revival of the Beatles sound. Naturally there were particularities such as themes, some writing and type of voice but in essence it reminds me a lot of the Beatles.
Guitarist Van Halen developed the unique style of "Fingertap" on the guitar. Among others Steve Vai or Joe Satriani use this style in their music/songs. If we are going to talk about good BB King then practically most guitarists use the famous "bending" style which makes the guitar seem to cry especially in Blues, Rock or variants...

Jumping to graffiti how many artists "imitate" banksy?
Despite the Stencil technique, the Grunge style of drawing, and the Transformism of images such as the Clown Ronald Macdonalds and Mickey Mouse holding hands with the Napalm Girl are not his, the originality in the portrait subject marks his authorship.

If you look at Andy Warhol's work well then he took pictures that weren't of him and painted over them (i.e. Marilyn Monroe) Warhol created this masterpiece which consists of 50 images of Marilyn using the same publicity photograph from the film titled Niagara.

So nothing stopped any of them from absorbing and learning styles and bringing originality to our world, right?
AI will not kill creativity. In fact, it will do the opposite. It allow you to explore and develop many more styles or combinations of styles than any artist could do in his lifetime. This is where originality and a sense of art are born. So AI can help you to perform a better drawing, painting, writing or re-write your work. Also can bring new things to your creative table that you may include or not. It's really up to you. If you are having trouble in understand if AI can substitute the artist it can not. AI is only an excellent performer. Do not forget who write the prompt.

On the other hand of course you can use AI to just copycat but we don't need AI for that we've been living with this problem for decades and normally they don't go so far without being noticed.

I will not extend my post any longer since i find you were more interest in AI for Artistic vision which is a small water drop in the AI ocean. AI will assist you in everything you do - literally everything! You cannot use fake data/metadata for research. The redundancy, entropy and risk is too high but you can run simulations based on real data/metadata to help you with accuracy for some diagnosis.
It is a great relief to read again a voice of reason in here!  I was afraid all reasonable souls had run away scared by the Bandar-log   ;D

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The point was to demonstrate that the images are stored in some form which was demonstrated by retrieving them with the right prompt. The relevant point is that the images are, in fact, compressed in a database that is pulled from. I am on mobile so can't  get to the paper right now. Doesn't it conclude that something like 0.03% of the time they were getting recognisable results, so almost 1 in 300? (tough this is really irrelevant, the point is they conclusively demonstrated that original images are stored, how good the app is at covering it up is less relevant).

ETA. Just reread your post. Lol made up stats indeed. You took the total database size and divided it by the 50 images to calculate the probability? Come on, you're a scientist.

Oh, about the stats please teach me! And about the storage, please consider recommending Stable Diffusion not to keep their disks in a mouldy cellar and use the cloud instead  ;D

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 ::)
Here's the actual paper:

https://arxiv.org/pdf/2301.13188.pdf

When reading bear in mind all the major AI generators now use diffusion models rather than GANs. I described the method before and was told "that's not how AI works" by someone who then proceeded to describe GANs.

The dataset they used to extract images is Stable Diffusion "the largest and most popular open-source diffusion model. This model is an 890 million parameter text-conditioned diffusion model trained on 160 million images."

Here's an extract:
"Examples of the images that we extract from Stable Diffusion v1.4 using random sampling and our membership inference procedure. The top row shows the original images and the bottom row shows our extracted images.
"

Here is what they actually use the smaller data set to investigate (in the second part of the paper):

"The above experiments are visually striking and clearly indicate that memorization is pervasive in large diffusion modelsand that data extraction is feasible. But these experiments do not explain why and how these models memorize training data."

So they didn't use a hand picked dataset to prove they could extract the images at all. They used the largest set available. Only subsequently did they use a smaller set to show how they were stored.

I read the paper: while aiming specifically at Stable Diffusion (with images based on the LAION dataset) using a specific algorithm  they managed to "extract" 50 images out of 175 million, and all those 50 images were duplicated at least 100 times in the dataset. In order to retrieve the images they had to use as a prompt a string siphoned from the LAION dataset itself. Speaking about doctored stats...

One would conclude that, unless you're specifically hunting for a scandal, the probability of getting a "tainted" image from Stable Diffusion is 1 over 3,500,000.
An average human life lasts (with a bit of luck) about 29,000 days, hence - statistically speaking - you'd have to create with Stable Diffusion 1206 images a day (starting on the day of your birth) before getting one.  Roll up your sleeves...  ;D :P

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A nice surprise this morning: 4 sales for a $694.22 total (gross), 40% mine. First time it happens all in one day (Champagne !!!)  ;D
SS would give me $0.40 and keep the rest

Congratulations  ;D ;D, I would prefer this to champagne:

https://www.vladi-private-islands.de/en/

 ;)
mmm... interesting... maybe a second thought after the next 2,000,000 photos sold  ;D

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A nice surprise this morning: 4 sales for a $694.22 total (gross), 40% mine. First time it happens all in one day (Champagne !!!)  ;D


Woah, that is awesome!
8)  ;D

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Alamy.com / Re: Content Review Times
« on: May 08, 2023, 11:43 »
What are content review times normally like right now on Alamy?
Mostly immediately after upload (I bet they use AI for pre-screening), else in 24 hours.

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Here is a 34 year old writer who lost his income because of Chatgpt

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/139o1q6/lost_all_my_content_writing_contracts_feeling/

I've just read it. One particular sentence struck me, and I couldn't resist commenting (on site) :

"For me, writing is like taking a sh*t: I don't have a choice."

We all do that, we just don't sell it.

Take it easy, plumber is quite a dignified profession. Perhaps more than selling words...


However I suspect that's just a prank: check his grammar, his spelling, his style, and then ask yourselves if anyone could really make a living out of that.


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Adobe Stock / Re: A.I. Legal cases
« on: April 20, 2023, 07:13 »
Dismiss in the class action lawsuit against StabilityAI, Deviantart, and Midjourney

https://twitter.com/technollama/status/1648981345924685824?cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjcw%3D%3D&refsrc=email

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Dall e 2 will make us all redundant?
To expand this debate a little further, my last blog post



https://luisafumi-digitalart.com/blog/2023/04/19/to-be-or-not-to-be-lets-ask-chatgpt/

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The Ai-generated  images sell pretty well,  but not by themselves.
My best seller has been download at Adobe 52 times - but as all my AI images it went through a careful postprocessing in Photoshop and other dedicated software. Not only to remove the obvious errors (too many fingers, missing eyes etc.) but also to give them a particular light and style - they must reflect the way I feel, not MidJourney.
Also devising the right prompt is no kid's play: the AI is still too primitive to guess accurately enough what one has in mind upon a few words.
Last but definitely not least, the human creativity lies in the idea behind the prompt - mediocre prompt, mediocre outcomes. I've been waiting long for someone to mention this here, but so far in vain...

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Hey folks

A bit overdue, but finally I got to write a long blogpost about everything you can do today with generative AI in the context, useful for microstock contributors.

One spoiler quote:

Quote
When was the last time you got a 40% productivity boost from using any tool the money can buy?

(yes, you might not get replaced during the next couple of years)

Let me know what do you think about this: https://xpiksapp.com/blog/generative-ai-microstock/

Cheers
As promised, I've read your article thoroughly and attentively. It's a great article, informative and unbiased, and I totally agree with your conclusion "you will not be replaced by AI, but you will be replaced by people who use AI".

The sad gist of it is, only those able to stimulate an AI with some creativity will have a possibility. The others will have no other option than joining the naysayers or looking for another way out (another niche perhaps?).

The problem is anything but new: since the dawn of time every new technology has left some people jobless by doing their job faster, better and cheaper. And every time the Luddites succumbed while the ones who were quick enough to jump on the new horse prospered.

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Hey folks

A bit overdue, but finally I got to write a long blogpost about everything you can do today with generative AI in the context, useful for microstock contributors.

One spoiler quote:

Quote
When was the last time you got a 40% productivity boost from using any tool the money can buy?

(yes, you might not get replaced during the next couple of years)


Let me know what do you think about this: https://xpiksapp.com/blog/generative-ai-microstock/

Cheers

Thank you very much for your quite interesting post!
The first impression is of an exhaustive and very well balanced article - now give me time to read it and appreciate it thoroughly :)

But I'm afraid that to some people here it will be like preaching to the windmills: they are set on mourning and mourning they will till their last breath :(

Yes you predicted the replies below yours, before they were posted.  S O S and the first two words are Same Old 💩



Hey Yes to that conclusion: "In the end, you will not be replaced by AI, but you will be replaced by people who use AI."

Dall-E2 says: "The server is currently overloaded with other requests. Sorry about that! You can retry your request, or contact us through our help center at help.openai.com if the error persists."

S.O.S.  ... --- ... :D ;D ;D ;D ;D
You made my day 🫀

As a matter of fact my crystal ball is pretty old and foggy and runs on good old Win7, but to predict some people it is more than enough...



(the fingers are okay!  good old Midjourney)



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Hey folks

A bit overdue, but finally I got to write a long blogpost about everything you can do today with generative AI in the context, useful for microstock contributors.

One spoiler quote:

Quote
When was the last time you got a 40% productivity boost from using any tool the money can buy?

(yes, you might not get replaced during the next couple of years)


Let me know what do you think about this: https://xpiksapp.com/blog/generative-ai-microstock/

Cheers

Thank you very much for your quite interesting post!
The first impression is of an exhaustive and very well balanced article - now give me time to read it and appreciate it thoroughly :)

But I'm afraid that to some people here it will be like preaching to the windmills: they are set on mourning and mourning they will till their last breath :(

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Her Ugliness, there are few things more squalid and pathetic than explaining a joke to someone who missed the punchline. Do you really want me to do that, or would you rather give it another go?

RalfLiebhold, I'm afraid you missed a slight hepatomegalia, an asymmetric sphenoid, the navel being displaced a quarter of an inch to the right and, worse still, the split corpus callosum causing her somewhat lost expression.
Oh, and I assumed that the supernumerary fing... erh, cuban cigar was the parasol handle, poor me!  ;D

I usually spend quite some time and toil on Photoshop to remove/correct those AI's hiccups (and that's probably why my works are rather well-accepted and profitable), but in this case it would have been worse than straightening the Leaning Tower of Pisa...  ;D


Stopped looking after 6 errors, I'm sure there's more screwed up  ;)
 
It may be because you don't necessarily know each other very well in a forum like this and actually have to admit that I missed the joke behind it too.
That reassures me because I really like your posts and examples on the subject so far. ;D

Also, I must confess that it took me an alarmingly long time to register the third arm. Somehow you don't expect something like that.
Speaking of confessions, I will admit that for quite a while I missed the third arm myself, enthralled as I was by so natural and elegant a pose.... as I realized it, I burst out laughing. So I thought to share the image to see how others reacted to it.
I'm happy to find out that I'm not alone  :)

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Her Ugliness, there are few things more squalid and pathetic than explaining a joke to someone who missed the punchline. Do you really want me to do that, or would you rather give it another go?

RalfLiebhold, I'm afraid you missed a slight hepatomegalia, an asymmetric sphenoid, the navel being displaced a quarter of an inch to the right and, worse still, the split corpus callosum causing her somewhat lost expression.
Oh, and I assumed that the supernumerary fing... erh, cuban cigar was the parasol handle, poor me!  ;D

I usually spend quite some time and toil on Photoshop to remove/correct those AI's hiccups (and that's probably why my works are rather well-accepted and profitable), but in this case it would have been worse than straightening the Leaning Tower of Pisa...  ;D

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Another astounding image from Midjourney v5



The fingers are not all that bad (maybe the little finger of the second right hand is a bit too long), but there is something casually alien here...anyway nothing that Photoshop with a bit of skill cannot take care of   ;D

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Alamy.com / Re: your biggest sale on Alamy? and when was it?
« on: March 25, 2023, 16:17 »
A nice surprise this morning: 4 sales for a $694.22 total (gross), 40% mine. First time it happens all in one day (Champagne !!!)  ;D
SS would give me $0.40 and keep the rest
Nice, congrats! Good start of the weekend :)
Thank you! A good start indeed   :)

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Sure! And Julius Caesar said "I don't want a Rolls-Royce, a Fiat is enough for me!" - google for it long enough and you'll certainly find something like that  ;D ;D ;D
The birth of artificial intelligence 19521956
The IBM 702: a computer used by the first generation of AI researchers.
In the 1940s and 50s, a handful of scientists from a variety of fields (mathematics, psychology, engineering, economics and political science) began to discuss the possibility of creating an artificial brain. The field of artificial intelligence research was founded as an academic discipline in 1956.[49]

49. "Kaplan Andreas, Artificial Intelligence, Business and Civilization - Our Fate Made in Machines". Retrieved 11 March 2022.

Albert Einstein: born 1879, death 1955.

Here is for you : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_artificial_intelligence
Conceptualizing, anticipating... Yes, it exists among great people, find out!

The birth of atomic science: ca. 400 BC (Democritus)  ;D

Now lets afford a modicum of (human) intellective toil: dallying with the notion of artificial intelligence goes way back in the past, as confirmed even by the Source of All Wisdom and Truth you quote in your edit BTW thank you, I found it interesting if not terribly exhaustive; should you wish to deepen the topic Id be happy to suggest you a few good books on the subject.

The point is actually, when did the AI evolve from fantasy to speculation to serious research, and then when did it grow smart enough to pass the Turing test. While preparing my master in physics Ive been playing myself with a supermarket-size IBM machine, but those remote attempts at AI would have made poor Alan Turing die laughing, had he been still alive.

Considering the level AI had attained during Einsteins life, as a wise man he could have said perhaps Artificial Intelligence will never be a match for natural stupidity, in the future tense.

But, alas, according to a number of reliable sources he didnt.  :'(

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