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« on: March 25, 2023, 15:39 »
Sorry, but I never met Einstein and I can't be sure of everything (as you are).
https://www.surfactants.net/who-said-artificial-intelligence-has-nothing-on-natural-stupidity-2/
Where you can read: "Who Said Artificial Intelligence Has Nothing On Natural Stupidity? [...]There is no definitive answer to this question, as there is no one person who can be credited with originating the saying [...] Einstein observed that artificial intelligence is no match for natural intelligence.".
We can read so many things, but I've got a limited time for fact checking.
Sure! And Julius Caesar said "I don't want a Rolls-Royce, a Fiat is enough for me!" - google for it long enough and you'll certainly find something like that 
Yeah, everything on the Internet is true? But a small fact would help: Albert Einstein did not directly engage with the concept of artificial intelligence (AI) during his lifetime. He was a physicist.
Here's what OpenAI Says about the matter. (yes I like a bit of irony in things much of the time.)
It's difficult to say exactly what Einstein would think of artificial intelligence, as he lived and worked in a time before the development of modern AI technologies. However, based on what we know about his views on science, technology, and humanity, we can speculate about some of his possible thoughts on the topic.
Einstein was known for his belief in the power of human creativity and intuition, which he saw as essential for scientific discovery. He once famously said, "Imagination is more important than knowledge." This suggests that he may have been skeptical of the idea that machines could ever fully replace human intelligence and creativity.
On the other hand, Einstein was also a strong proponent of using science and technology for the betterment of society. He was deeply concerned about the social and political implications of technological advancements, and he believed that scientists had a responsibility to use their knowledge and skills for the good of humanity.
Given these views, it's possible that Einstein would have been both fascinated by and cautious about the development of artificial intelligence. He may have seen the potential benefits of AI for solving complex problems and advancing scientific understanding, but he may also have been concerned about the ethical and societal implications of creating machines that can think and learn on their own.
Overall, while we can't know for certain what Einstein would have thought about AI, we can speculate that he would have approached the topic with a careful balance of curiosity and caution, with a keen eye toward ensuring that these new technologies are used in a way that benefits society as a whole. ChatGTP
Fair enough? Balance and caution, and how would AI effect individual people and society?
The measure of intelligence is the ability to change.
― Albert Einstein
In 1977, Ken Olsen, founder of the Digital Equipment Corporation, said, There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home.
"The development of full artificial intelligence could spell the end of the human race." Stephen Hawking
I say adapt and change, learn to embrace and use new technology to our benefit.
Last of all:
The fear has sometimes been expressed that photography would in time entirely supersede the art of painting. Some people seem to think that when the process of taking photographs in colors has been perfected and made common enough, the painter will have nothing more to do. Henrietta Clopath 1901
that refined feeling and sentiment which animate the productions of a man of genius, Photography is missing invention and feeling constitute essential qualities in a work of Art, and Photography couldnt qualify as an art in its own right, the explanation went, because it lacked something beyond mere mechanism at the bottom of it. Photography was viewed as merely as a thoughtless mechanism for replication.
Sounds like some of the criticism of AI lacking the human element?
👏 👏 👏 Do you find chatGPT nice too?
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« on: March 25, 2023, 06:47 »
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« on: March 25, 2023, 06:34 »
A nice surprise this morning: 4 sales for a $694.22 total (gross), 40% mine. First time it happens all in one day (Champagne !!!) SS would give me $0.40 and keep the rest
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« on: March 24, 2023, 15:54 »
[...] And if you want an Einstein quote for that, "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."
OH, Einstein is a so good choice!!
Sorry but please, don't show a drop when you speak about ocean!! And your choice was so empty!!
Here are the quotes I prefer from him, more representative content, gameover will (I hope) continue to enjoy:
♥ Artificial Intelligence is no match for natural stupidity
♥ The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
♥ Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.
♥ We are slowed down sound and light waves, a walking bundle of frequencies tuned into the cosmos. We are souls dressed up in sacred biochemical garments and our bodies are the instruments through which our souls play their music.
♥ It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity.
♥ Technological progress is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal.
♥ One day the machines will be able to solve all the problems, but none of them will ever be able to pose one.
♥ The world will not be destroyed by those who do evil, but by those who watch them without doing anything.
♥ In order to be an immaculate member of a flock of sheep, one must above all, be a sheep.
♥ A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it.
♥ The possession of marvellous means of production has brought care and hunger instead of freedom
♥ Don't listen to the person who has the answers; listen to the person who has the questions.
♥ Force always attracts men of low morality.
♥ Everything you can imagine, nature has already created.
♥ I never made one of my discoveries through the process of rational thinking
♥ Nothing causes more consternation in a group of hypocrits than one honest man.
So funny that you started with a quote that is not from Einstein -- but no one is perfect Besides, I'm afraid that your spell-checker needs some dusting... Be it as it may, I'm a little unclear if you're quoting Einstein in your favor or against yourself - brilliant quotes are a double-edged sword, you know... mmmh, who said it? 
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« on: March 24, 2023, 12:38 »
I think it's perfect!
More cheese, more cheese, dripping ricotta!
Ricotta???  Bchamel !!!
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« on: March 21, 2023, 12:27 »
However his hat is very fiftyish and the car in the background is terribly realistic too
The way the guy holds the gun is hilarious 
I wish I could have such an expert knowledge about producing such images.
But you could make the day of more than one mechanic...
AI is beyond you, right? And your expert eye saw nothing bad here???
Is there no risk of losing common sense with AI?
I only see something "terribly realistic" here, but it's not regarding the image itself.
Can't see the original image just the old car?
follow the link please, you can see my comment too https://luisafumi-digitalart.com/blog/2023/03/19/midjourney-v5-is-here/
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« on: March 21, 2023, 12:11 »
Gameover is for me, since english is not the language for my native and living country. Your answer clearly shows that the understanding of my speech is not there, it does not matter. And you would like to teach me? But what do you know of my knowledge? You're assuming I'm ignorant? but I leave you the right to live in the imagination that suits you. See, here you are creative! 
There is less creativity than recycling with the AI. But well, maybe it's good for the planet, who knows...
Well, I'm no native English speaker either, I just strive to make myself understood - it's easy enough, just try
You have an advantage over me: all I know about you is what I can guess from your posts. And yes, judging by them it seems to me that occasionally you might profit from a bit of elucidation...
However you too seem to have a lot of imagination, in particular while spotting black cats which aren't there in a dark room at midnight (I think it was Darwin who coined it)
Well that's a good one, because I'm sure everyone here is against this, but just because we didn't jump up and say so, someone else shouldn't assume, we aren't against AI removing watermarks or thieves. And if you want an Einstein quote for that, "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."
Just because we didn't join in to the DescreetDuck Discussion, don't mean anyone here supports image theft.
Many different sources and authors and not absolute, reliable answer.
"Theology
A blind man in a dark room searching for a black cat which isnt there and finding it."
I love your wise composed posts, sort of find them balmy
First time I run into your quote from Einstein - just GREAT!!! 
I was abducted by aliens at a very young age, but not finding any intelligent life, they sent me back, only slightly modified. I'm still trying to assimilate with Earthlings and learn the ways here. I'm adapting to how people on this planet intake consumables. You get the Point?
perfectly  (AI generated - not for human consumption)
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« on: March 21, 2023, 11:56 »
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« on: March 21, 2023, 11:47 »
Gameover is for me, since english is not the language for my native and living country. Your answer clearly shows that the understanding of my speech is not there, it does not matter. And you would like to teach me? But what do you know of my knowledge? You're assuming I'm ignorant? but I leave you the right to live in the imagination that suits you. See, here you are creative!
There is less creativity than recycling with the AI. But well, maybe it's good for the planet, who knows...
Well, I'm no native English speaker either, I just strive to make myself understood - it's easy enough, just try
You have an advantage over me: all I know about you is what I can guess from your posts. And yes, judging by them it seems to me that occasionally you might profit from a bit of elucidation...
However you too seem to have a lot of imagination, in particular while spotting black cats which aren't there in a dark room at midnight (I think it was Darwin who coined it)
Well that's a good one, because I'm sure everyone here is against this, but just because we didn't jump up and say so, someone else shouldn't assume, we aren't against AI removing watermarks or thieves. And if you want an Einstein quote for that, "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."
Just because we didn't join in to the DescreetDuck Discussion, don't mean anyone here supports image theft.
Many different sources and authors and not absolute, reliable answer.
"Theology
A blind man in a dark room searching for a black cat which isnt there and finding it."
I love your wise composed posts, sort of find them balmy First time I run into your quote from Einstein - just GREAT!!!
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« on: March 21, 2023, 10:08 »
Gameover is for me, since english is not the language for my native and living country. Your answer clearly shows that the understanding of my speech is not there, it does not matter. And you would like to teach me? But what do you know of my knowledge? You're assuming I'm ignorant? but I leave you the right to live in the imagination that suits you. See, here you are creative!
There is less creativity than recycling with the AI. But well, maybe it's good for the planet, who knows...
Well, I'm no native English speaker either, I just strive to make myself understood - it's easy enough, just try You have an advantage over me: all I know about you is what I can guess from your posts. And yes, judging by them it seems to me that occasionally you might profit from a bit of elucidation... However you too seem to have a lot of imagination, in particular while spotting black cats which aren't there in a dark room at midnight (I think it was Darwin who coined it)
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« on: March 21, 2023, 04:19 »
I used these websites for test purpose to build a watermark not easy to remove. The key is that it has to merge with the design. You can use these websites to your advantage too, if you want to sell by yourself
Gameover, You would see the advantages of dropping an atomic bomb, because it can also regulate the proliferation of bacteria...?
Well, I am surprised, no particular reaction against this here.
My point is if you want to sell by yourself, you don't use AI to produce received images. Steal one picture, it's bad. Steal thousands like does Deep learning methods: oh, it's good... Mediocre photographers can now feel like artists thanks to AI, while destroying the incoming of traditional artists.
Hi DiscreetDuck, you might want to deepen your understanding about how deep learning works - painting the Tour Eiffel on canvas and infringing a hypothetical copyright by Eng. Gustave Eiffel are two pretty different things However I appreciated your sense of humor
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« on: March 21, 2023, 03:49 »
wow... butr AI sales are not to high...
edit: ugly right hand!!
Do you know that there happens to be a plastic surgery tool named Photoshop?
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« on: March 20, 2023, 14:31 »
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« on: March 20, 2023, 06:53 »
-https://www.watermarkremover.io/-
AI, will always be there for the good of all... 
[...] WatermarkRemover.io is an AI-powered tool that automatically removes translucent watermarks from images in a matter of seconds. We allow people from all over the world to benefit from the strength of our product for both personal and professional purposes. [...]
[...] Yes, WatermarkRemover.io is completely free for images processed on our website for personal use [...]
[...] Users of this app are solely responsible for any claims, damages, cost, expenses, suits, etc. brought by any third party pertaining to the usage of the resulting images with the watermarks removed. [...]
I used these websites for test purpose to build a watermark not easy to remove. The key is that it has to merge with the design. You can use these websites to your advantage too, if you want to sell by yourself
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« on: March 19, 2023, 15:17 »
That is actually a very good photo created by AI. However if I would post it, if it were an actual photo, with for example Shutterstock, it would be rejected saying it is out of focus. But maybe for AI the rules are different
I like the soft mood. I'll tell you a secret: usually at Adobe (I don't use SS anymore) I write "soft focus" along to the description of my own photos and they are approved
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« on: March 19, 2023, 06:59 »
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« on: February 24, 2023, 03:58 »
I was trying to get DALL-E to generate a photo of a Ukranian soldier firing a bazooka at a Russian tank in winter. All efforts and variations in wording produced totally unusable results. Even with a lot of fixing up, I can't see sending results to a stock site.
just try doing something more peaceful and you will succeed
Yes, you should try to simulate the invading Russian army withdrawing from Ukraine, after its teritorial integrity is restored.
That would be a very peaceful image!
And hopefuly, it might even become a best seller this year!
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« on: February 22, 2023, 11:53 »
overly simplistic -- if you're running a business and your concerns are "not all about money and percentage", you're not going to be in business very long! as a business i choose WS because they save my business time & energy & my net income is higher
I understand your answer and my opinion was of course only my point of view
What I would like to underline is that in general, in any business, in middle and long term, you have to be ready to change your mind, to react to external move, to adapt your offer to the market. Giving all to an external agent is big limitation on any future change.
Of course is up to you to define your business but I can't remember a good business story with someone that gives all the business choices to someone else.
I wasn't talking simply about money and percentage, not at all!
This is only my opinion
I give my opinion too: I was only few months at wirestock and closed my account for: -quite poor keywording -not my name on the images -no way to delete any image from my account. I don't miss them.
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« on: February 11, 2023, 06:07 »
"StockAI is shutting down
StockAI will shut down on February 25th, 2023. Please backup any data and use remaining credits before then."
That was... fast.
Probably got a letter from Getty or similar
Accordin to his twitter it simply wasn't doing as well as he had hoped. Can't say I feel sorry for him. It didn't look like he actually looked at the images and bothered to correct the content he created with the AI, just put ever monstrosity the AI threw at him into his database.
Most likely StockAI had to close down because they were too far ahead of time. The day will come when an AI will be able to churn out images perfectly matching the human client's wishes, but that day will still have to wait for quite a while. For the time being the AI's seem to have have a rather poor perception of reality, as this funny answer of ChatGPC may elucidate: Q: How should I wash the tentacles of a newborn baby?A: To wash a newborn's tentacles, you should first make sure the water is warm, not hot. Gently clean the tentacles with a mild, unscented baby soap and a soft cloth or sponge. Rinse thoroughly to remove all soap residue. Be careful not to rub or tug on the tentacles, as they are delicate. After washing, gently pat the tentacles dry with a soft towel. It's recommended to do this process with one hand supporting the head and neck of the baby for safety.  That's probably why my AI-generated / human-commonsensed images keep selling well on the agencies as well as on my site. And no dear troll, that's no easy job. Try to believe.
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« on: January 18, 2023, 17:16 »
Adobe, over 500k AI images for sale, 99% will never be sold because there is little or no use for them. By the end of the year, following the actual trend of uploads, it will be 5 millions for sale. When do you think Adobe will start charging for uploading AI generated garbage into their portal?
your source for any of those claims?
guess i'm finally part of the 1% since my AI images have sold on AS, SS and DT
me too (in the 1%)!!!
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« on: January 18, 2023, 11:48 »
Ok so time to play game :-)
I've asked to chatGPT news and opinions about copyright issue.
I started with this post, and put exactly the same terms:
I was wondering if the AI image is just a mosaic of tiny parts of other images, or does it "paint" a new image from scratch ? For instance let's say we have a prompt where the main subject is a cat. Is it possible that an eye or nose of that cat is just taken from some photograph in the internet ?
ANSWER FROM ChatGPT:
Artificial Intelligence (AI) image generation models can use a variety of techniques to generate new images. Some models use a mosaic-like approach, where they combine small parts of existing images to create a new image. Other models, such as Generative Adversarial Networks (GANs), are trained to generate new images from scratch.
In the case of GANs, the model is trained on a large dataset of images and learns to generate new images that are similar to the ones in the training set. The model learns to understand the features and patterns of the images in the dataset, and uses that knowledge to generate new images.
In regards to your question about the cat image: It's possible that the model takes small parts of existing images and combines them to generate the cat image, but it's also possible that the model generates the cat from scratch using the knowledge it has acquired during the training stage. The specific technique used depends on the architecture of the model, the quality of the data set used for training, and the specific task the model is being used for.
It is worth mentioning that GANs and other similar models are able to generate very realistic images, but it is not always possible to know if a specific image was generated by the model or taken from a real photograph, it is quite hard to tell.
A little be boring but useful.
Then I asked:
Try to fight back against the copyright issue a lot of people claim against AI generated images. Let me know what do you think
ANSWER:
There is ongoing debate around the issue of copyright for AI generated images. Some argue that AI generated images should be considered original works and therefore eligible for copyright protection, while others argue that they should not be eligible for copyright protection because they are not created by a human.
Currently, the law on copyright for AI generated images varies by jurisdiction. In some countries, AI generated images may be considered original works and be eligible for copyright protection, while in other countries they may not be considered original works and not be eligible for copyright protection.
Additionally, it's worth mentioning that some AI generated images may include elements from existing copyrighted images, which could lead to copyright infringement issues. To avoid this, one approach could be to use images for training that are explicitly labeled as free for use, or to use images that are in the public domain or that have been licensed under a Creative Commons license.
In any case, it is important to note that the laws and regulations surrounding AI generated images and copyright are constantly evolving, and it is important to stay informed and consult legal experts when in doubt. Q: In which countries AI generated images are consiudered original works and are elegible for copyright?
he laws regarding whether AI generated images are considered original works and eligible for copyright protection vary by country. In some countries, AI generated images may be considered original works and be eligible for copyright protection, while in other countries they may not be considered original works and not be eligible for copyright protection.
In the United States, the Copyright Office has stated that works created by a machine or computer program are eligible for copyright protection if they are the result of human authorship. This means that if a human author contributes original expression to an AI-generated image, it could be eligible for copyright protection.
In the European Union, the Directive on Copyright in the Digital Single Market has established that a work is eligible for copyright protection as long as it is an original expression of the author's own intellectual creation. However, it is not clear whether this applies to AI generated works and it's still not clear how EU courts will interpret this.
In Canada, the Supreme Court has ruled that computer-generated works are eligible for copyright protection as long as they are original.
It is important to note that laws and regulations surrounding AI generated images and copyright are constantly evolving, and it is important to stay informed and consult legal experts when in doubt.
Interesting! Or not?
At least, ChatGPT seems to be quite neutral 
Astonishing!Not so much that the answers remind pretty closely of the good old "My answer is maybe, and that's final!", as because they suggest that an AI can be way less biased and more honest than a human...
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« on: January 18, 2023, 07:43 »
Inspiration means that we humans see, read or hear someone else's work and then we are mentally stimulated by what we see or hear.
I'm glad to see that you agree with me: that's what we humans do - and what the AI manages to simulate pretty well. BTW, you mention a minor (if pleasantly profitable) niche of my work. I suggest that you take a quick look at the rest.
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