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Ok I get it hehe :p.

Since half my portfolio is not "suitable" for Istock I guess I will put exclusiness out of my mind for Illustrations. Will go with Flash for exclusivity.

Thanks everyone for your explanations, I really appreciate.

477
Ok I understand this.

So if I can rephrase the question then, can I do what I stated above?
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could I create groups of 4 or 8 symbols in a file, and submit them as EXCLUSIVE on iStock. I would have all those SINGLE symbols sold as non-exclusive on other site, but only iStock will have a grouped Illustrations of 4 or 8 of them.

So I would creates sets out of SOME single images I am selling on other site, and sell those sets as Exclusive on iStock?

478
Hi!

I have a simple-not-so-simple question to ask.

I want to start submiting some illustration to iStock. I have some good Illustrations ready to pass the approval. However, I also have a long list of "simple" Illustrations, which mostly are isolated objects on white and complex symbols on white, 1 per illustration.

I was wondering, since Istock does not seem to like single symbols, could I create groups of 4 or 8 symbols in a file, and submit them as EXCLUSIVE on iStock. I would have all those SINGLE symbols sold as non-exclusive on other site, but only iStock will have a grouped Illustrations of 4 or 8 of them.

Could that count as Exclusive, since iStock will have exclusiveness of the "grouped" illustration?

Thanks for you insight!

479
Illustration - General / Re: 3d round head figure - what software
« on: February 14, 2011, 11:53 »
Id say Maya or 3ds max.   You need to be able to 1. make the model  2.  rigg it ( for movement )  3. animate it     Not as easy as it looks.    well, if you make only one image its easy, but youd want to be able to use it in different scenes and in different positions.

You forgot 4. Create the good lighting vs shadow, white plane and background.
5. Use the right render engine (usually vRay for 3dsMax)
6. Use the rightcamera view.
7. Texture the model (pretty simple for those but... still need to be done).

Plus if you don't have the software, nor the renderer, nor the skills... Why would you take a week as a 3d newbee to create a picture to get .50$ a week for it?

480
CanStockPhoto.com / Re: Can Stock Blowing Up!
« on: February 11, 2011, 18:08 »
Must say, I really dont get it???? why?, how?  can you supply, upload, etc, month after month after month, spend all this time that could easily be time generating much more with the big ones and the end result is: 3 sales per month ???
I know everyone here hungers for money but this is ridiculous, its like being greedy for pennies, Scrooge business.
I mean its quite obvious the middle-tier aint ever, never gonna see themselves in the top-tier, its wishful thinking. The only one that can somehow come close is Bigstock, if they play their cards right, they have a much more professional approach and now with the partnership SS, they have a good chance.

Im sorry guys we are already shoting for peanuts but I mean theres got to be a limit, surely?

That's not all of us make 3 download per month there. That's not my case with the same portfolio over there, and it sure is worth my time. You must not know Canstock if you talk this way. Uploading to them is the EASIEST submission site. You upload via FTP, go to their submit area, check select all, submit all (unless you didn't get the keywords and descriptions in your files... which that would be waste of time).

In 5 minutes after upload, I have all my 340 image portfolion on their site, with a nice welcome of 15 downloads and 50$ in month. Of course that's 1/3 or 1/4 of what Shutterstock generates for me, but still is better than some Dreamstime or Fotolia months for me.

Don't miss the big 4, but don't spit on the new one who is coming to the market, that will be your loss. 5 minutes for 50$? That's well paid for me. In a year it will be 10 minutes worth of submission time for 1000$.

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Illustration - General / Re: iStock Illustrators
« on: February 11, 2011, 17:59 »
If you want to make photorealistic images, go buy a camera.

That's the classic argument I was thinking of.  :)

I think I've forgotten most of what I know about drawing realistically. I used to be better at it. Especially, my life drawing. I went to a figure drawing event a year or so ago and was surprised at how much I sucked at it. I just don't practice it enough to maintain the skills I used to have. That said, my process for producing finished illustrations now kicks the fanny off of anything I could do in college when I was a drawing machine. I wouldn't trade that in.

Hey your green flying piggy is awesome! :P Keep up doing what you are doing best ;p. Realistic stock vector has it's place say someone needs a huge print (ex: near a highway) and wants a top quality specific image there, else like you say, buying a camera is the way to go hehe :p

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Illustration - General / Re: iStock Illustrators
« on: February 11, 2011, 09:11 »
Good illustrator are every where, but supers are rare.
I define supers for those who can use Gradient Mesh very well to create realistic objects.


Your examples are great photorealistic vectors. Does that make them better Illustrators? Is Rembrandt a better painter than Picasso or Dali or Michelangelo?
The images you showcase only has 100 to 400 downloads.

A cheap map vector has 11 000.
14000 on this one, and guess what, not Exclusive:
3000:
1100:

Super don't = Super money...

And the list goes on. My point is, every Illustrator has his style, and so every buyer are in need of a specific style to suit their project. Wouldn't it be boring if we all did photorealistic photos? Stock Illustration is about good and original ideas that sells. The style to me doesn't matter, every style can be Super... but in stock Illustration, I would prefer being Super Rich than just being a Super. :)

Cheers!

483
Alamy.com / Re: Thinking about joing Alamy
« on: February 11, 2011, 08:49 »
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3550 will make a minimum size image just over the 24MB limit for Alamy.


I've uploaded some from Alamy from my Olympus 4/3 format days, and I had to upsize slightly from 3264px on the long end to 3400 (24.8mb).  3350px gives me 24.08mb which is too close.


Hopefully not one of these?

http://www.alamy.com/contributor/help/unsuitable-olympus-list.asp?cname=Olympus


LOL at that hehe. That might just be the list of ALL Olympus models :P

484
CanStockPhoto.com / Re: Very nice site!!!!!
« on: February 10, 2011, 15:06 »
Canstock has been steadily climbing in the poll results.  It's a big jump to get in to the top 4 but I don't think it's impossible.
The Big 4 is hard to beat, but Fotolia and Dreamstime, for me, is possible if my Canstock sales keep up this way. 1st month with them and I am more than happy.

FAST upload and review time, and nice payouts (5$ , 19.80$ for some images, makes me smile) :)

485
CanStockPhoto.com / Re: Can Stock Blowing Up!
« on: February 10, 2011, 15:04 »
Thanks for reminding me they existed! I just went to check, and had a pretty good amount ready to cash out. ;D
I would say they are in the Bigstock and 123rf category. Slow sales, but give it some time and it adds up...

Well for me, they are blowing 123rf and Bigstock off. Just suscribed to them in early January. * easy upload, submitted 340 files there no rejects.

Made 50$ in one month. At 123 and BG I usually make 150$ a Year. Had some nice 5$ and 19.80$ sales already. If they keep up like that they might even surpass my Dreamstimes yearly income... Let's hope they will!

Go CS Go! :)

486
Never expected a dime from iCock (and it's not that I'm getting any... to say the truth);) Yes, it is because I have only +/-15 vectors up there. Correct, dude! Wow!

p.s.: I know you've been trying to dismiss my opinions about VS (via the dissing of my iS work),

No, not at all. I was just pointing out that there is a LOT of competition on iStock and if you upload things that have many many many other files popping up in searches, it will be harder to be seen. Yours may even be better than the files that get downloaded, but if they can't be found in the flood, it won't matter. Think about what might set your images apart when a buyer is entering their search terms. If your keywords only generate search results that include thousands of other files, that will be a hard obstacle to overcome. I know there are so many because these subjects sell, but you gotta get really lucky to be seen.

I have no knowledge of vectorstock other than the numbers that I have seen posted on their site, so I can't say they are a good or bad match for anyone's goals. You will probably fare better with a very large portfolio there than you will with a very small portfolio on iStock, and I do wish you well!

Cheers!  :)

I do some Stock Illustrations, but also own a small Graphic Design company.

Vectorstock is GOLD for graphic designers... 1$ for good vector work... Need a quick image or background, save hour or hours works for 1$... Need large prints done, vectorstock it is... 1$...

As a contributor, getting .25$ per VECTOR download... not for me. Selling vectors with 5$ to 19.80$ in my pocket at CanStock... Istock also gives good payout on Vector. .25$ is what you get from XXSmal format JPG. Vector is worth more than that. As I contributor I will not put my portfolio online unless the payout is more interesting.

As a designer, I say, you go for it and make my day ! :p.

 Just saying, if I see the same vector at iStock, Fotolia or Dreamstime, and also find it at Vectorstock, guess which one I will buy from? Yes, you got it right, here's your 25 cents! :)

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Illustration - General / Re: iStock Illustrators
« on: February 09, 2011, 21:23 »
About the Blog, it's an interesting articles. But I would add one to the one mentionned to selling vector:
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They are Shutterstock, Dreamstime, Fotolia, and GraphicRiver. The rest are almost hopeless at the current state.
123rf and Bigstock gives me a small income each year, but last month I submitted my vectors (VERY easily and in 4-5 minutes to submit them after upload), I had some very nice sales in the 1 month that I have beend there. 5.00$, 2.50$, 19.80$ etc. is great sales when I am used to the 0.33 or 2.48 of Shutterstock (which is my main earner). I think Canstockphoto can be good. This is only 1 month, but if it sticks this way it might surpass Dreamstime in my yearly income.

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488
Illustration - General / Re: iStock Illustrators
« on: February 09, 2011, 21:17 »
From your blog post:
That is why whether you should become an IStockPhoto Exclusive or not is highly depend on your skills. If you are super good, IStockPhoto Exclusive is your route to millionaire. If you are not that good, you may want to consider joining the other agencies...

The best illustrators should go exclusive and the mediocre ones should be independent? I'm sorry but that is total crap.
+1
+2

Define a good Illustrator? :) I don't consider myself one as I don't spend much time on Illustration yet, but even my "ordinary" illustrations, around 300 of them still gives me a decent bonus income each month.

489
Alamy.com / Re: Thinking about joing Alamy
« on: February 08, 2011, 17:10 »
@RacePhoto

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Don't do it! You can't sell RF one place and the identical images as RM someplace else. The people who are saying you can are reading between the lines and ignoring the obvious, across all agencies, general rule. Even after I quoted from Alamy (who BT claims they won't answer) and the actual words saying don't do it. I still get the "there's no rule against it".

Yes there are rules and legal complications if someone tries to sell the license the same images with two different licenses.

Don't license you RF images at RM on Alamy! Besides why not just make them RF on Alamy?

Hi, it just that someone on this thread mentionned that we could do it... but it seems that post has been deleted lol. I was trying to understand what exactly RM was and if it was worth it, for Illustrations. I already have my portfolio online as RF at Alamy, but from what I hear RM sells at Alamy, I have yet to see a sale but it's only been 1.5 month there and have not finished with they're long submission keywording.

Thanks for the answer Race, will keep as RF for sure!

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Illustration - General / Re: Saving eps10 files problem
« on: February 03, 2011, 15:12 »
Your doing transparency and radial effects wrong :).

EPS 10 do not support those (sometimes radial will work, but most time it will rasterize (convert to bitmaps)).

To fix transparency issues, here is what I do. I get the color the mix of the transparent item and backgroud makes, then use that color to replace the transarency. We see no difference whatsoever doing this.

For more information, I just posted a useful link for this. Extended select script also helps to find Transparency and Raster item.

See this thread it will surely help you:
http://www.microstockgroup.com/illustration-general/saving-eps-file-%28/msg183893/#msg183893

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Illustration - General / Re: Saving EPS file :(
« on: February 03, 2011, 15:07 »
Are you using effects not supported in EPS 10?

See this Shutterbuzz article, helped me a lot:
http://buzz.shutterstock.com/bitmapping-101-troubleshooting-eps-files-in-illustrator

Two things you should use to get good and clean stock illustrations. Get a close path script for Illustrator : http://vectips.com/tricks/10-free-and-extremely-useful-illustrator-scripts/ Get the CLOSE ALL PATH SCRIPT. Using thing you will make sure you don't have any unclosed path or stray point.

Also, you can use: http://maps.aridocean.com/scripts_en.php
I LOVE this script. When I create a vector, then save as EPS 10 (or MORE so EPS 8), then I close the document. I reopen it (EPS 10 or 8), and then do ExtendedSelect -> Raster Art. This will show which effect has been rasterized (converted to image) because it is not supported in EPS 8 or 10.

Hope this helps! Cheers!

Your problem might only be unclosed path or unsupported effects.

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The first thing to understand is how NOT to build your illustrations. You want to avoid the rasterization that can occur upon output to EPS-8 or 10. EPS-8 creates rasters more often than EPS-10 files, but EPS-10 has its own quirks that can make it output as a raster.

When exporting to EPS-8, you will most certainly get bitmapping if you use these effects and techniques:

1. Transparency
2. Opacity Masks
3. Radial Gradient
4. Linear Gradient, sometimes, not always, depends on opacity masks used, or if output Transparency setting is not 100% Vectors on the Raster/Vector Balance (in the EPS Options window, see below)
5. Drop Shadow
6. Gaussian or Radial Blur

When exporting to EPS-10, most of the problems encountered in outputting to EPS-8 are eliminated, except bitmapping will still occur with Drop Shadow and Gaussian or Radial Blur. For those effects, you have to find alternate methods that will produce the same effect (such as Blend Mode to replace Drop Shadow).

When exporting to EPS, always check the Transparency setting in the EPS Options -> Custom Transparency Flattener Options box (see Figure 1). Youll want this set to 100% Vectors as shown in Figure 1. Check this for EPS-10 as well.

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Alamy.com / Re: Thinking about joing Alamy
« on: February 03, 2011, 14:46 »
Hi Anita,

I uploaded all my RF portfolio at Alamy, as RF (RM still confuses me... but reading here and there starts to get me out of the fog).

All my Images passed Qc, and I uploaded them all as 6000 x (x) or (x) x 6000 px and they all passed. JPG size are around 4-8 mg each. Don't worry about that too much. Since I aleady had my RF files at 6500 or 6000 width (to sell largers JPG sizes on other sites), it wasn't much of an issue.

I haven't finished yet submiting all my images, but after a month there, with roughly 200-300 illustrations as RF, I had 0 sales, and some views. I guess I might need to try some RM, but that scares me :p.

@BaldricksTrousers
Are you saying that I could, say, change all my RF portfolio at Alamy and change it for RM even tho I have all those files on multiple other Stock websites? And if I sell one, then I can just remove them from the Stock websites I am selling them too? Would that work? :) That would be the cake and the icing at the same time to me! :)

493
Ah ok I get it, thank for the information I really appreciate. Basically Editorial would be to work without model and property releases, but for very limited subjects. So for Illustrations it doesn't really apply.

Thanks for the info really appreciate.

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Alamy.com / Re: Illustrations at Alamy
« on: February 02, 2011, 13:44 »
@Diomedes66

Thanks for the input, I will have around 350 illustrations there when I finished processing them. But did you put your Illustrations as RM or RF ? I had all mine in RF as I don't quite understand how RM works. Are those prices for RF sales?

Thank again!

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Hi!

I am fairly new to stock Illustrations, been producing here and there over the course of 2 years and have around 300 illustrations online. One thing I never tackled with, or understand much, is Editorial.

Any Illustrator here do some Editorial images? How does it work actually. Do you pick one of your image as Editorial, and when you do so you need to stay "exclusive" with editorial with that images and only submit to 1 site, or you can still submit to multiples Stock website and keep some RF? What exactly is Editorial Illustration or Images? And the last... Is it worth it to sell as Editorial?

Thanks for your insight!

497
Alamy.com / Re: Illustrations at Alamy
« on: January 31, 2011, 10:46 »
Hi!

Are any of your Illustrators making some decent money on Alamy? I have around 300 images there, got some views but didn't sell a thing yet? Just wondering if Alamy was any good for Illustrators?

Thanks for your insight!

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Mostly all Vectors and some 3D! :)

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