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Newbie Discussion / Re: What do u think about FEMALE PHOTOGRAPHER?
« on: November 18, 2018, 02:43 »
Annie Leibovitz!!   dayrate:  $ 25000!!   

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: October Earnings Post
« on: November 17, 2018, 10:41 »
Everest!  well I have never heard of these kind of amounts!  hehe! they do sound quite impossible! myself in the heyday of Istock made around 6-7000 bucks a month and I thought that was pretty good, nowadays its around 1K/ month and I'm independent there!

However I must say that the actual concept of IStock is far superior to that of SS, the thing that made SS jump ahead is their freaking subscriptions and thats all! and thats also the destroyer!

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: October Earnings Post
« on: November 17, 2018, 02:31 »
Seems to me that almost all agencies are now capitalizing on the SS downslope!

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: October Earnings Post
« on: November 16, 2018, 04:14 »
Do you guys never get tired of this?? :(

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Shutterstock.com / Re: No sales today
« on: November 15, 2018, 04:25 »
It's so depressingly predictable. Capped capped capped every day around $0.72 - $1.08 despite beefing up keywords, adding more images. Talk about a totalitarian agency.

Yes agree ( Im also an "old-timer")..but why do you keep adding pictures when nothing sell!...surely you can not believe that crap they say " keep uploading, keep uploading " is going to lead to anything or increase sales???....thats just the slogan they use to keep people on their toes, adding more assets!  thats all! fooling new comers etc, etc. :)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS Search Surprise!
« on: November 15, 2018, 02:26 »
Its a Psychopathic search! with the diagnosis of Borderline giving Bipolar results!....aimed at a very few selected!

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Adobe Stock / Re: New design is confusing and awkward.
« on: November 15, 2018, 02:24 »
Yes agree and for being the creative heights and industry standard I would have thought they would have more imagination!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS Search Surprise!
« on: November 14, 2018, 08:54 »
Image manager this and that its all BS!  its not going to increase sales or anything. You can put up your best seller and it still wont sell!...there are no short cuts to SS sales.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Lucky day on shutterstock
« on: November 14, 2018, 08:51 »
No need to worry I recon, looks and sounds pretty Ok the way you explained it!  yes count yourself lucky!  once that used to happen quite often but nowadays its rare and a real treat!  good luck to you!

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FT/Adobe is on the whole overtaking SS, sales, service, Techs, just about everything!

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Adobe Stock / Re: My biggest sale!
« on: November 13, 2018, 09:47 »
Whats all these little 0.38c sales all about??  some new useless scheme?

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS Search Surprise!
« on: November 13, 2018, 05:26 »
Paws!  youre picking hairs now " above havent experienced"  well heck of course there is the odd one out!..if I was allowed to I could point you to a forum and if you read this about capping and how easy it really is I swear you wouldnt believe it!

Anyhow we can beat this to death and still there will be those affected and those that arent, those that are experiencing it and those that are not!

As I said one day you might have been with SS long enough for them to decide you have to give way to others or whatever weird concept they've cooked up!

best!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS Search Surprise!
« on: November 13, 2018, 04:53 »
Paws!....sigh!...You are undermining the SS intelligence!..do you really think SS would be that stupid they would make a capping system that provided proof of capping??
No I dont think so, they have probably long ago cleared it with their legal dept etc, etc! and in other various ways!...besides capping or controled earnings whatever is nothing new in any business that provide royalty as an income!..Amazone is just one of them!

Here in this forum is but a few but there are thousands seeing the very same thing, thousands! and surely they cant be all wrong!...and isnt it quite a " coincidence" that the percentage they are down is almost the very same, 70%...give it some thought will you. One day in a few years time it might hit yourself!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS Search Surprise!
« on: November 12, 2018, 15:09 »
There are at least two different servers used to record earnings and if they get out of sync then the sales tally changes as we view it. We've seen that in practice in the past. So it's quite possible that there are different servers producing the tomato "best match" and they aren't in sync, particularly if there has been a recent change. Which one you hit when you make a search would probably be quite random.
My point is that there could be a lot of factors we don't know about, which makes obsessing about one interpretation/conspiracy theory or another quite pointless.

No its not conspiracy!  its a fact!  SS do tamper with our earnings!  you know this isnt the only forum! there are two private forums and the criteria for joining is that you are a full-time photographer!...at least 70 members joined SS between 2005-2007 and some have giant portfolios and special portfolios and every single one is down at least 60-70%, every one!! so its no coincidence!

Most members here who have only been with SS some 5 years or less havent gone through what we have experienced!  hence they find it impossible to believe any capping and controled earnings, theyre of course worried about their own future!

Anyway screw it!  who cares? I mean really! remember Gostwyck, Liza, myself, you etc, etc, when we all many years back agreed that everything good will come to en end!....well it has!

You forgot Laurin in your group  8)

Not really. He just got a $120 sale. Conspiracists will not be able to count on him for a while. He is a happy camper boasting his achievements more than ever.

haha! been here since 2015!!  three years!  do me a favour turn some burgers or at least bake a cake or something, no offence pal! ::) ::)
Which is exactly the kind of attitude that allows so called newbies to clean up while the old timers sit at their keyboards whining.

Just gave you a like OK!  noobs are after lots of likes well you got the first one from me! happy?? bye, bye from me now!
I'm sure with a bit of time you can come up with a suitable insult...have a nice evening

and you mate! a nice evening!.....btw I'm just kidding around you understand, no harm meant ! :)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS Search Surprise!
« on: November 12, 2018, 14:33 »
There are at least two different servers used to record earnings and if they get out of sync then the sales tally changes as we view it. We've seen that in practice in the past. So it's quite possible that there are different servers producing the tomato "best match" and they aren't in sync, particularly if there has been a recent change. Which one you hit when you make a search would probably be quite random.
My point is that there could be a lot of factors we don't know about, which makes obsessing about one interpretation/conspiracy theory or another quite pointless.

No its not conspiracy!  its a fact!  SS do tamper with our earnings!  you know this isnt the only forum! there are two private forums and the criteria for joining is that you are a full-time photographer!...at least 70 members joined SS between 2005-2007 and some have giant portfolios and special portfolios and every single one is down at least 60-70%, every one!! so its no coincidence!

Most members here who have only been with SS some 5 years or less havent gone through what we have experienced!  hence they find it impossible to believe any capping and controled earnings, theyre of course worried about their own future!

Anyway screw it!  who cares? I mean really! remember Gostwyck, Liza, myself, you etc, etc, when we all many years back agreed that everything good will come to en end!....well it has!

You forgot Laurin in your group  8)

Not really. He just got a $120 sale. Conspiracists will not be able to count on him for a while. He is a happy camper boasting his achievements more than ever.

haha! been here since 2015!!  three years!  do me a favour turn some burgers or at least bake a cake or something, no offence pal! ::) ::)
Which is exactly the kind of attitude that allows so called newbies to clean up while the old timers sit at their keyboards whining.

Just gave you a like OK!  noobs are after lots of likes well you got the first one from me! happy?? bye, bye from me now!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS Search Surprise!
« on: November 12, 2018, 14:26 »
There are at least two different servers used to record earnings and if they get out of sync then the sales tally changes as we view it. We've seen that in practice in the past. So it's quite possible that there are different servers producing the tomato "best match" and they aren't in sync, particularly if there has been a recent change. Which one you hit when you make a search would probably be quite random.
My point is that there could be a lot of factors we don't know about, which makes obsessing about one interpretation/conspiracy theory or another quite pointless.

No its not conspiracy!  its a fact!  SS do tamper with our earnings!  you know this isnt the only forum! there are two private forums and the criteria for joining is that you are a full-time photographer!...at least 70 members joined SS between 2005-2007 and some have giant portfolios and special portfolios and every single one is down at least 60-70%, every one!! so its no coincidence!

Most members here who have only been with SS some 5 years or less havent gone through what we have experienced!  hence they find it impossible to believe any capping and controled earnings, theyre of course worried about their own future!

Anyway screw it!  who cares? I mean really! remember Gostwyck, Liza, myself, you etc, etc, when we all many years back agreed that everything good will come to en end!....well it has!

You forgot Laurin in your group  8)

Not really. He just got a $120 sale. Conspiracists will not be able to count on him for a while. He is a happy camper boasting his achievements more than ever.

haha! been here since 2015!!  three years!  do me a favour turn some burgers or at least bake a cake or something, no offence pal! ::) ::)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS Search Surprise!
« on: November 12, 2018, 14:24 »
There are at least two different servers used to record earnings and if they get out of sync then the sales tally changes as we view it. We've seen that in practice in the past. So it's quite possible that there are different servers producing the tomato "best match" and they aren't in sync, particularly if there has been a recent change. Which one you hit when you make a search would probably be quite random.
My point is that there could be a lot of factors we don't know about, which makes obsessing about one interpretation/conspiracy theory or another quite pointless.

No its not conspiracy!  its a fact!  SS do tamper with our earnings!  you know this isnt the only forum! there are two private forums and the criteria for joining is that you are a full-time photographer!...at least 70 members joined SS between 2005-2007 and some have giant portfolios and special portfolios and every single one is down at least 60-70%, every one!! so its no coincidence!

Most members here who have only been with SS some 5 years or less havent gone through what we have experienced!  hence they find it impossible to believe any capping and controled earnings, theyre of course worried about their own future!

Anyway screw it!  who cares? I mean really! remember Gostwyck, Liza, myself, you etc, etc, when we all many years back agreed that everything good will come to en end!....well it has!

You forgot Laurin in your group  8)

He was only at the SS forum at that time!  but yeah he is probably one of them??

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS Search Surprise!
« on: November 12, 2018, 12:14 »
There are at least two different servers used to record earnings and if they get out of sync then the sales tally changes as we view it. We've seen that in practice in the past. So it's quite possible that there are different servers producing the tomato "best match" and they aren't in sync, particularly if there has been a recent change. Which one you hit when you make a search would probably be quite random.
My point is that there could be a lot of factors we don't know about, which makes obsessing about one interpretation/conspiracy theory or another quite pointless.

No its not conspiracy!  its a fact!  SS do tamper with our earnings!  you know this isnt the only forum! there are two private forums and the criteria for joining is that you are a full-time photographer!...at least 70 members joined SS between 2005-2007 and some have giant portfolios and special portfolios and every single one is down at least 60-70%, every one!! so its no coincidence!

Most members here who have only been with SS some 5 years or less havent gone through what we have experienced!  hence they find it impossible to believe any capping and controled earnings, theyre of course worried about their own future!

Anyway screw it!  who cares? I mean really! remember Gostwyck, Liza, myself, you etc, etc, when we all many years back agreed that everything good will come to en end!....well it has!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: No sales today
« on: November 12, 2018, 07:26 »
A friend and very established lifestyle and fashion photographer asked me yesterday if it was worth joining SS with some 3000 files!  I said forget it!  go to Adobe/Ft, he will!

Funny but just over a year back one would undoubtly have recommended SS!...not now though, chanses are the guy comes back at YOU!

I would never suggest to a friend of mine to join microstock market if he has any other way to gain money with photography.
In the time he will take keywording 3000 files he can make a lot of photographic services in the real world and earn much more money.

3000 pictures will stop to sell in a few months, stock photography has not a big lifespan as some years ago.
(and Fotolia rejects 50% of files usually, so count 1500)

Well he does shoot commissions and lots of it!  but these are pics just sort of sitting there on the HD, typical lifestyle with good looking models, hes really a fashin photographer!

cheers!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS Search Surprise!
« on: November 12, 2018, 05:42 »
Zero Talent!!  EXACTLY!!! spot on!...this is what we have been trying to tell people for years!  What WE SEE are totally different from the search that the buyers will see. A registered buyer will perhaps find your picture in question on page 15 where as we will see that same picture on page 2......this is to let us think we are high up in the search!

basically and again the searches are BS and for us of no use at all!
Are you being ironic?



Good morning Paws!  lovely morning, sun and blue sky!  what a day for a search! :D
I'm avoiding keywording as usual by engaging in pointless discussion. If its a nice day I might go out and shoot some random crap for SS they like that ;-).

on that score you are absolutely right!  " random crap" good expression!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS Search Surprise!
« on: November 12, 2018, 03:47 »
Zero Talent!!  EXACTLY!!! spot on!...this is what we have been trying to tell people for years!  What WE SEE are totally different from the search that the buyers will see. A registered buyer will perhaps find your picture in question on page 15 where as we will see that same picture on page 2......this is to let us think we are high up in the search!

basically and again the searches are BS and for us of no use at all!
Are you being ironic?

Good morning Paws!  lovely morning, sun and blue sky!  what a day for a search! :D

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS Search Surprise!
« on: November 12, 2018, 02:47 »
Zero Talent!!  EXACTLY!!! spot on!...this is what we have been trying to tell people for years!  What WE SEE are totally different from the search that the buyers will see. A registered buyer will perhaps find your picture in question on page 15 where as we will see that same picture on page 2......this is to let us think we are high up in the search!

basically and again the searches are BS and for us of no use at all!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: No sales today
« on: November 11, 2018, 12:53 »
A friend and very established lifestyle and fashion photographer asked me yesterday if it was worth joining SS with some 3000 files!  I said forget it!  go to Adobe/Ft, he will!

Funny but just over a year back one would undoubtly have recommended SS!...not now though, chanses are the guy comes back at YOU!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: No sales today
« on: November 11, 2018, 02:45 »
All days are crappy crappy crappy. Weekends, weekdays all the same. They should rename it junkstock now. Utter garbage.

Delete some images!  wait a week and then re-upload them!  you're going to see some sales I bet!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: SS Search Surprise!
« on: November 11, 2018, 02:43 »
Its crap. In my image manager if I choose to display my images in order of sales it still gives me my most recent. Useless garbage of a system.

Sorry that's not the point.

Not about the top performers page, https://submit.shutterstock.com/earnings/top-performers?language=en - which shows by total earnings unless you are the only person in the world who gets them by date upload order? If you mean Catalog Manager, three choices in the drop down box, Best Match, Oldest, Newest. Nothing to do with sales. So tell me where are you looking for "image manager" in order of sales? I'd like to look at that page? Have a link please? I can't see anything that's image manager.

Now back to the search, 549,757 Sliced tomato stock photos just changed back to the bottom search again.  :)

The search changes between two different "Most Relevant" that's strange.
With all the different caps applied to different individuals by day, week and month along with the minimum income level that some have set for then clearly the search results will change minute by minute to meet all those competing targets....rather than the one about maximising income. Quite an achievement for an IT team that seem to struggle to actually keep the site stable.

Hahaha!  is that what you think??  as quick as a flick of a switch!  thats what it takes according to Tech firm who used to be with another agency and spilled the beans!...wakey, wakey Paws this is 2018!

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