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General - Top Sites / Re: Istockphoto's very generous reviews
« on: February 05, 2017, 06:56 »
Yes they used to be really fussy and in early years the Rolls Royce of microstock. Pitty what happened. Today I think they have to be happy with what they can get. I don't know anybody who still uploads to Istock. Getty took over and that was a sure way of browsing around skidrow.

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General - Top Sites / Re: Fotolia no sales
« on: February 04, 2017, 03:08 »
I think FT is the best agency right now. They've become my best earner and I'm very happy with them. There's less competition on there than SS and they've been quietly purging spammers in large numbers. I remember seeing so many spammers (repeating images and vectors like it's on SS) about 2 years ago and now they're all gone.

Absolutely! but not just for steady sales more so for their trend their future thinking if you want. They actually try and do something!.......SS have gone to sleep in comparison.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: February 03, 2017, 13:11 »
Somehow as the OP says I genuinely believe its going down the toilet. There are just too many well established members and not just here its everywhere that have to do with stock photography seeing the same issues from tinkered and unfair searches to disappearing portfolios to bugs galore. Pugh! whats up Doc?
I am seriously starting to look for a plan-B but where the heck do I stick 4K files. hehe!
Any ideas anybody? RF or RM or both?

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General - Top Sites / Re: Fotolia no sales
« on: February 03, 2017, 05:34 »
For me with a portfolio of just around 3000 files Adobe is way up and it certainly makes up for the big 40% of SS drop in earnings. No complaints.

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I'm not signing some stupid petition.

Everyone should have some pride and pull their portfolios from Shutterstock.

Neither am I. Sounds like a new plan only in aid for the shareholders.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: January 30, 2017, 10:41 »
anyway strange sunday with 30 dollar with a 28 extend sale...good see extended again in january. good feeling fro a great february. i'm planning adding 2000 images per month. se if and how improve.

I feel its a complete waste adding new images at the moment since they will probably just disappear to the land of nobody. Once they've sorted out this buyer problem mentioned above it might be worth the effort.

i don't know it depends...i upload generic content , travel editorial etc...in last months only new content sells. after i uploaded i see some new files from last batch sells. actually i'm uploading 100 files from a big backlog i had and i'm seeing the new files most of them sells in the first week, while old not sell good, only those who are in first page in popular.
in my opinion if you stop uploading you won't sell nothing.

last week I uploaded 24 files all just vanished just gone. Friday last week I uploaded 8 files and they show. its a hit and miss affair. Prior to that no uploading for three months and I sold more then ever. There is no way of telling anymore.

in my opinion 24 8 ...this number cannot compete....i'm not judging the quality...but we are talking about 100000 every day.....persoanlly i only upload batch of minimum 100 file....they stay longer in first pages of new....to upload 8 files and hope to sell them they must be very niche photos so if you search for them they are in first page for days......if you shoot a business man talking to iPhone how long can you hope it will stay in first pages of new content?

You are missing the point and btw 2 out of these 8 have already sold and they are niched. Sales wasn't the issue here. The first 24 files just vanished thats my point. I wrote to support and still no anwer, wrote again but no answer

Dangerous uploading 100 files! with the kind of review system at SS it seems very much like Alamy the chances are if they find just one file that dont meet the technical requirements they ban the whole lot.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: January 30, 2017, 09:23 »
anyway strange sunday with 30 dollar with a 28 extend sale...good see extended again in january. good feeling fro a great february. i'm planning adding 2000 images per month. se if and how improve.

I feel its a complete waste adding new images at the moment since they will probably just disappear to the land of nobody. Once they've sorted out this buyer problem mentioned above it might be worth the effort.

i don't know it depends...i upload generic content , travel editorial etc...in last months only new content sells. after i uploaded i see some new files from last batch sells. actually i'm uploading 100 files from a big backlog i had and i'm seeing the new files most of them sells in the first week, while old not sell good, only those who are in first page in popular.
in my opinion if you stop uploading you won't sell nothing.

last week I uploaded 24 files all just vanished just gone. Friday last week I uploaded 8 files and they show. its a hit and miss affair. Prior to that no uploading for three months and I sold more then ever. There is no way of telling anymore.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: January 30, 2017, 08:31 »
anyway strange sunday with 30 dollar with a 28 extend sale...good see extended again in january. good feeling fro a great february. i'm planning adding 2000 images per month. se if and how improve.

I feel its a complete waste adding new images at the moment since they will probably just disappear to the land of nobody. Once they've sorted out this buyer problem mentioned above it might be worth the effort.


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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: January 30, 2017, 04:17 »
Seems to me that the real damage to sales is being done by the change in 'search'. When a potential buyer clicks on one of your images, they used to be offered similar images (based on keywords) from YOUR portfolio (same artist). Now the offering of alternatives is often not from your portfolio and is a pixel-based/color-pattern similarity search. If I were a buyer who had searched using keywords, I'd be seriously annoyed at SS offering these pixel-based alternatives because often they're totally irrelevant.

Thats right! and to add insult to injury the alternatives are often irrelevant.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: January 28, 2017, 09:57 »
For somebody to actually experience this sudden drop they obviously have to be one of the people affected! every "old" member coming on here is agreeing on this. For somebody thats been with SS for like 5 years they wont experience anything of this just keep uploading and uploading happy go lucky and it just seems like any old search change. Win some lose some.
Very different for an old member watching the sky fall just over night not all but many. Not an imagination.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: January 28, 2017, 02:54 »
70 downloads in one week, from bad to worse , i am afraid the end for me is near, the decline is really rapid now.

I have to agree!  never seen it like this. I'm getting an uncanny feeling its a lot more to this story like a Gordon Gekko squeeze the last drop of blood out of the business before the end. :)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: January 27, 2017, 14:59 »

"Yes and the same here from a daily 150-200 to a lousy 50-60. dont ask me if I intend to upload. This is almost a carbon copy of what Istock did some years back and it didnt end well."

About the same numbers here!  >:(
They are playing their greedy game and don't care losing old contributors! But they are losing buyers too! From 2017 our company stopped buying content from SS because of their new policy against contributors and their disasterous search engine!
I hope other SS buyers start buying from other more contributor friendly and fair agencies!

Yes whatever I can't see many old contributors uploading under these conditions since any uploads are bound to join the invisibles.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: January 27, 2017, 07:19 »




Deleting very old files might help. This I was told by somebody. Last night I deleted 70 really old files and somehow this morning the sales result was better not great but better. This is the second time I have tried this and somehow ( dont ask why) but it seems to have a slight effect.
I am going to try it out once more later but have in mind this is very old files and they dont sell anyway and since I am not uploading anymore it might work?

The problem with that is you can never re-submit those deleted files as they will be rejected for already being on Shutterstock.

I know it don't matter it needs a clean out anyway. Got a feeling that in order for the portfolio to surface properly you have to do away with really old files.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: January 27, 2017, 02:03 »

"Yes and the same here from a daily 150-200 to a lousy 50-60. dont ask me if I intend to upload. This is almost a carbon copy of what Istock did some years back and it didnt end well."

About the same numbers here!  >:(
They are playing their greedy game and don't care losing old contributors! But they are losing buyers too! From 2017 our company stopped buying content from SS because of their new policy against contributors and their disasterous search engine!
I hope other SS buyers start buying from other more contributor friendly and fair agencies!

Deleting very old files might help. This I was told by somebody. Last night I deleted 70 really old files and somehow this morning the sales result was better not great but better. This is the second time I have tried this and somehow ( dont ask why) but it seems to have a slight effect.
I am going to try it out once more later but have in mind this is very old files and they dont sell anyway and since I am not uploading anymore it might work?

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: January 26, 2017, 15:05 »
The ELs and mid-size SODs keep rolling in. It's like SS heard me that it's going to fall behind FT and it's making a last desperate effort to catch up. What was a lousy month is starting to turn into an decent month.

Wish I could say the same :( I've gone from a daily average of 70-80 to 30 on a good day. Today, is just 15 lousy subs.

I will quit if I get a zero day, but maybe that's what they are aiming for? If they p**s off all the .38c contributors they can save money. Great business plan to throw older contributors under the bus.

Yes and the same here from a daily 150-200 to a lousy 50-60. dont ask me if I intend to upload. This is almost a carbon copy of what Istock did some years back and it didnt end well.

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ProRes 422HQ, no question about it.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: January 25, 2017, 10:58 »
I thought I'd just check firefox to see if things were any different, and had a situation where I clicked on one of my thumbs and a totally different image (not mine!) came up.

I clicked on a thumb of this image

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/oast-house-nestled-trees-hollingbourne-kent-79599667

and this was what was displayed!

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-vector/bottle-water-vector-illustration-isolated-on-308843966

On Chrome, I couldn't see the wrong image (tried it twice on firefox).

I'm not sure it's worth delving into details further, but perhaps this explains the terrible sales so far this morning :)

I did post them about a week back and their reply came through today. "we cant see anything wrong and there is no bug". I give up.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: January 24, 2017, 09:45 »
I thought I'd just check firefox to see if things were any different, and had a situation where I clicked on one of my thumbs and a totally different image (not mine!) came up.

I clicked on a thumb of this image

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/oast-house-nestled-trees-hollingbourne-kent-79599667

and this was what was displayed!

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-vector/bottle-water-vector-illustration-isolated-on-308843966

On Chrome, I couldn't see the wrong image (tried it twice on firefox).

I'm not sure it's worth delving into details further, but perhaps this explains the terrible sales so far this morning :)

Thanks again but this is really intoreable and of course it explains terrible sales. Are they aware of this? or is it meant to be this way. Bug or something?

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: January 24, 2017, 09:12 »
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Thanks for testing Jo Ann. When you're on the SS buyer site, did you try to click on a bunch of images from your portfolio (right click 'open in new window') to check if the image is displaying ? Because my problem is not 'images not showing up when doing a search', it is that my images are not showing when clicking on the thumb to go to the image detail page and buy it... ...

I just tried that and every thumb I clicked on to view came up OK. The sets are a huge mess (missing most of their contents) but for what shows, and for searches of my portfolio, I can see the image page for every thumb. Given the other problems I am seeing, it's not surprising you're seeing this though.

I'm using Chrome on a Mac, FWIW

Thanks but not here all I see are the same 10-12 pictures and it just so happens its also my best sellers/most popular. Nothing else.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: January 24, 2017, 03:06 »
...I just discovered that many many of my images in my portfolio are not displayed when i click on it on buyer SS site .... Are you experiencing the same
Could you check if that 's happening with your port ?...

I did a little checking today and I don't think I see what you're experiencing. I have a buyer account and am logged in to that. I do a search that I know will produce one of my images. I click on that in the search results, then on my name. Then I search within my portfolio for some search terms and see all that I expect to see.

I am seeing again today a bug I thought was fixed last week (other people's images showing up in my sets).

It's possible that one or two images might be missing, but results look correct to me

I just checked mine from the buyer's site, and notice similar problems. A set that I know has 70+ images was only showing 37, and one of my sets was showing some random images belonging to someone else.

A refresh appeared to fix the problem, but why would a buyer refresh the screen?

Perhaps this goes part way to explaining a 50% drop in sales in the last 6 months, although I'm sure there are plenty of other factors, both intentional and caused by the bugs in the system.

I used to love Shutterstock, as they were so dependable - both for sales, their ability to keep site issues to a minimum and their willingness to communicate with contributors. These days I'm sadly not so impressed.

Almost exactly my experience. Similar pictures is someone elses pictures. Buyers will not refresh and why should they? plus about 70% of the portfolio not showing. No this is not a bug this is something completely different!

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: January 23, 2017, 13:56 »
Hello all,
I just discovered that many many of my images in my portfolio are not displayed when i click on it on buyer SS site !
I understand why my sales have dropped ! :-\
I've written to SS to check what is happening. If only 1 on 5 images of my files are displayed when buyer click on it (I've got 2000 images), then I'll make 5x less income than usually
This is extremely worrying. Are you experiencing the same
Could you check if that 's happening with your port ?
Thx



Glad you mentioned this cause its the same here! I buy and contribute. The same eight or ten pictures are selling every day but when logging in as a buyer I can only see a small fraction of my pictures. Have also written to SS about a possible bug? they replied no bug and that everything was fine. its not. Whats going on?


Ok. How can they answer this to you as the bug is so obvious ?! You should show them this :


I will do if they dare to answer me there is no bug...
I also sent them bunch of links leading to this same page


Good picture. Frankly I don't think they care anymore. Nothing else seems to get fixed.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: down the toilet
« on: January 23, 2017, 11:10 »
Hello all,
I just discovered that many many of my images in my portfolio are not displayed when i click on it on buyer SS site !
I understand why my sales have dropped ! :-\
I've written to SS to check what is happening. If only 1 on 5 images of my files are displayed when buyer click on it (I've got 2000 images), then I'll make 5x less income than usually
This is extremely worrying. Are you experiencing the same
Could you check if that 's happening with your port ?
Thx


Glad you mentioned this cause its the same here! I buy and contribute. The same eight or ten pictures are selling every day but when logging in as a buyer I can only see a small fraction of my pictures. Have also written to SS about a possible bug? they replied no bug and that everything was fine. its not. Whats going on?

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If its the Sony you have in mind I would rather recommend their own lenses. I got this adaptor for my ARII and it worked quite good but there was plenty of problems and this adaptor wasn't cheap, some $.700.

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