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People keep saying (hoping) that customers will go to Adobe. They will go to Istock and Getty, unfortunately. There is bigger possibility for that, it's a bigger stock company.

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I'm afraid customers will go to Istock and Getty, and only istock exclusives will profit from this.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock just became iStock 2.0
« on: May 29, 2020, 05:03 »
I have to disagree. I wish you all well, we are all contributors and what we say?

An agreement is a agreement.

Either between countries either between contributors and agencies.

So SS might also say, c'mon this is how always was going and done dudes.
Disagree with what? People calling it Makedonija in everyday language? There is nothing to be agreed upon, it is a fact. As I said the agreement is there, it will be officially called Northern Macedonia, but people won't call it that outside Greece. In US yes, but I bet americans don't even know where it is.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock just became iStock 2.0
« on: May 29, 2020, 03:48 »
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And thank you, Dimco from eastern Europe, Skopje, Macedonia, for expressing it so well.


Offtopic but this was supposed to be North Macedonia.

Macedonia is located in Greece. Haven't you watched the News and the aggrement between our countries?
I know you have problem with this, but, sorry, people from exYugoslavia still call it Macedonia (Makedonija) in everyday language and will always do. As part of exYugoslavia, one of six republics it was called Makedonija. It was political victory for Greece and a lot of potential votes for leading party for next elections, but nothing more than that. Makedonija  is still Makedonija.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock just became iStock 2.0
« on: May 29, 2020, 03:21 »
Ive never bothered looking before but i just looked at SS on Trustpilot ( https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.shutterstock.com )

As expected a few pages of 1* reviews from contributors BUT the more worrying thing from SS own perspective is after that its made up nearly entirely of 1* reviews from BUYERS complaining about poor support, sneaky wording, unable to cancel and all kinds of things.
They do NOT have happy, smiling customers on there.  Contributors they can ignore, customers they cant.

People skills are something you either have or you dont.

If they are abusive and heartless towards contributors, they will also behave that way to customers.

And they wont be able to choose good quality new staff because again they lack the necessary people skills to identify them.

It is a vicious circle.

For Adobe this year will be the easiest in business.

Shutterstock is acively driving customers and artists towards them.
Very well said! But, there is one thing that we all here get wrong. Most of the artist have the same workflow - sending their work to all the agencies at the same time. So, Adobe is not going to profit from this regarding artists' work, unfortunately.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock just became iStock 2.0
« on: May 28, 2020, 05:42 »
The new structure is designed to address market changes while creating fair opportunities for all contributors. It rewards content creators for producing quality work that is fresh, relevant and currently in-demand by our customers,
It is obvious that they are lying because their search engine is not designed to promote new content, it's been a while.

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https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/100168-why-deactivating-is-a-mistake-at-least-for-me/

These groupies sure are something else. What on earth makes them think they will get more sales if someone with a 10k food, concept or fashion portfolio leaves?
Do they fill all the gaps with their subject matter, concepts, quality?

They lack self respect and do not value their own work, that we already get but at least they can show some respect for those who work their butt off to survive in this market.

Shame on you!
That guy starting the thread has 4 pages of mediocre images after "years of uploading". Who cares about him anyway. Don't take him too seriously. Besides, as political parties do, he could be sent by SS to send their voice, I'm surprised they haven't done that earlier.

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Probably I'll disable my account from 1st of June and fully concentrate on AdobeStock...
How can you concentrate on Adobe Stock, how it looks like? I send images to all agencies and concentrate on producing content. The only thing I can do is stop uploading to SS and deactivate images, I can't do much more for Adobe than I do now.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock just became iStock 2.0
« on: May 26, 2020, 12:47 »

It is on Shutterstock forum, she is an admin. 10 cents I would like not to believe her.

She contradicted.  First post said existing sub fixed fee was going and ALL percentage based.

She then said "minimum 10 cents" which contradicts that.

I asked directly what the MAXIMUM is twice and got no reply....i suspect 10 cents.

So 0.38 down to 0.1 at BEST maybe.

The fact that they introduce this with 5 days warning, have a mistake in the email (video pricing) and dont seemingly have ANY  updated earning schedule to show contributors is crazy.
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Yes, I saw your question there. Sadly, she didn't answer. I think she is not capable of running conversation on that forum. AS always, they put young inexperienced people to do dirty job for them

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock just became iStock 2.0
« on: May 26, 2020, 12:44 »
I can see this tip coming. Save some images throughout the year, and dump a LOAD in January to instantly boost your rate. Not good for client and not good for comtributors.
I don't think it would help. There is only limited number of downloads monthly. Besides, everybody would do that, even worse scenario.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock just became iStock 2.0
« on: May 26, 2020, 12:40 »
I hope Adobe will offer exclusivity now. Otherwise I will apply for Istock exclusivity, because If SS earnings vanish, I really have no other choice.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock just became iStock 2.0
« on: May 26, 2020, 12:33 »
Some girl named Katty from Shutterstock just came and said that it will not bi lower than 10 cents, not 3 or 6 cents as we assumed. What a relief.


and U believed her ???   ::)
It is on Shutterstock forum, she is an admin. 10 cents I would like not to believe her.

maybe she was being a bit Katty !?  ;)  lol
What"s wrong with you?

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock just became iStock 2.0
« on: May 26, 2020, 12:32 »
I've been with Shutterstock for 15 years, but if they are in fact going to reset everyone every January 1st, I WILL pull my entire portfolio.

I've already pulled my videos out of SS and AS, gone exclusive to P5.

Now I may pull photos out of SS and keep 'em in AS, P5, and DT. 

It's the principle more than the $$$ for me. But truly, this is DISGUSTING!!!
Will do the same. I hope Adobe is monitoring this closely. It is time to offer photo exclusivity.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock just became iStock 2.0
« on: May 26, 2020, 12:31 »
Some girl named Katty from Shutterstock just came and said that it will not bi lower than 10 cents, not 3 or 6 cents as we assumed. What a relief.

Relief? I hope you're joking!

Getting closer to put my stock +20.000 images for free on the web and ask for donations for those who download them. Soo it won't be worse than having them on stock.

Hope AdobeStock launches a wrecking ball into SS headquarters.

The first step would be to accept editorial content which is a huge part of my SS income, and them promote good exclusivity conditions.
Of course I'm joking what

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock just became iStock 2.0
« on: May 26, 2020, 12:29 »
Some girl named Katty from Shutterstock just came and said that it will not bi lower than 10 cents, not 3 or 6 cents as we assumed. What a relief.


and U believed her ???   ::)
It is on Shutterstock forum, she is an admin. 10 cents I would like not to believe her.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock just became iStock 2.0
« on: May 26, 2020, 12:25 »
10 cents is still much less than 38 cents it is just 25%, horrible. She actually confirmed it.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock just became iStock 2.0
« on: May 26, 2020, 12:24 »
Some girl named Katty from Shutterstock just came and said that it will not bi lower than 10 cents, not 3 or 6 cents as we assumed. What a relief.

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123RF / Re: Is it the end of 123rf
« on: May 25, 2020, 06:23 »
Lisa Gagne still istock exclusive and working.

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123RF / Re: Is it the end of 123rf
« on: May 24, 2020, 13:14 »
I don't know, for mi it is sustainable and I'm a creator.Maybe you don't know to manage your expenses or maybe it is not even possible for you to manage them better (I live in a less expensive country than you, just guessing). Or maybe your expectations are too high. There are a lot of variables. Nothing can be an absolute true, not even your statement that "It is what it is"

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123RF / Re: Is it the end of 123rf
« on: May 24, 2020, 12:15 »
You are right about expenses relative to returns from those days. The returns were fantastic. So, logically, expenses were low. I was talking about expenses to make a picture and send it to an agency. But, it was not based solely of talent (photographers success), it was based on lack of competition, too. I don't know if I was recognized as talented back then, but I know those pictures of mine were worse than today's. I would not agree with talent part, because I remember a lot of crap being in stock collections back than, too.
You have to keep in mine that you are exaggerating the past because of your age, too.

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DepositPhotos / Re: Deposit Photos
« on: May 24, 2020, 06:43 »
All of them. They all have art directors working with picked up photographers. Art directors research the market and work closely with photographers. It is not a new thing. Getty first. The others I don't want to mention because maybe it is some kind of secret, I can't know each agency's policy.

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DepositPhotos / Re: Deposit Photos
« on: May 24, 2020, 05:39 »
For me. DP is turning into one of the best sites, After Adobe and SS. a strong #3. Very proud of them.

glad to see you are trying to recruit new competitors for yourself...

do this more often and it won't be long before deposit photos turns into crestock for you..

what specifically do you mean? (I heard I think on this forum that they use sales data to produce similar content? is that it - or something else?)
Finally someone metioning it. I think that every agency does that. They would be crazy not to. The same with these platforms  that help us upload and  track the stats. They are all lifestyle stock photographers suddenly :) Now I track their productions and copy that. All of the data reflected in their pictures :)

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123RF / Re: Is it the end of 123rf
« on: May 24, 2020, 05:19 »
I'm happy that those days are over from my perspective. It was the time when only few of us from Eastern Europe could participate in the stock market and when we did, it was very expensive and cumbersome. I sent transparencies to ImageBank's office in Italy. Not to mention little or none instant feedback about what sells and what doesn't. It took years to figure that out.
I'm happy that everything is different now and that I can work with my full potential.
Don't get me wrong, I do feel your pain, rinderart and Clair Voyant, I'm just describing my position.

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Also a good example are few so called authors on petapixel that constantly write about the most famous photographers in the world. Putting these famous names their articles they climb in google search to page one without any quality writing and without any sense. This one guy got to page 2 when you search for Henri Cartier-Bresson and page 1 on Martin Parr. Unbelievable!

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Newbie Discussion / Re: alamy keywording?
« on: April 30, 2020, 01:01 »
Just yesterday I asked about supertages being assigned automatically to the first ten keywords on Alamy forum. Since my keywords are already in the order of priority of the first ten, it would be logical to have this option at Alamy. Thanks ShadySue for the info, to bad it is not possible. I find it to be very time consuming to add supertags manually. That star is very small, you have to click super precisely to make it blue, and it also takes some time to turn blue, it has a lag.  So time consuming for larger portfolios.

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