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Shutterstock.com / Re: Very low video sales
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I'm just going to ignore the trash talk that some people throw at others, and move on.
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Shutterstock.com / Re: Very low video sales« on: February 02, 2024, 12:23 »
I'm just going to ignore the trash talk that some people throw at others, and move on.
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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock 1099 forms are available« on: February 02, 2024, 12:16 »Mat, Mine was. 178
General Stock Discussion / Re: Anybody using ChatGPT for microstock?« on: February 01, 2024, 15:14 »
I'm going to print that! Your answer led me to search for the correct question, and I found an additional FAQ. Thank You Syntax for Stable Diffusion https://www.generativelabs.co/post/prompt-syntax-for-stable-diffusion-faq I see that the parts I was looking at are not f stops, but numerical weights. Also there's a 75 token limit. So some of the terribly long prompts I've seen could be truncated? Interesting. I'm using DALL-E and SDXL 1.0 179
Image Sleuth / Re: AI In The News« on: January 31, 2024, 18:31 »
Under appeal but I think still interesting. willfully blind to infringement If we notify these sites, and they do nothing, they can be sued.
Vacating the district courts order granting in part and denying in part Redbubbles motion for judgment as a matter of law, the panel held that a party is liable for contributory infringement when it continues to supply its product to one whom it knows or has reason to know is engaging in trademark infringement. A party meets this standard if it is willfully blind to infringement. Agreeing with other circuits, the panel held that contributory trademark liability requires the defendant to have knowledge of specific infringers or instances of infringement. General knowledge of infringement on the defendants platform, even of the plaintiffs trademarks, is not enough to show willful blindness. The panel remanded for reconsideration of Redbubbles motion under the correct legal standard. https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2023/07/24/21-56150.pdf 180
Alamy.com / Re: Alamy Stockimo« on: January 31, 2024, 15:48 »Accept AI images instead, much more promising.. No kidding. I guess I can go delete the forum, which Alamy removed any post or discussion of Stockimo or mentioning that there was someplace for people who were trying to be active, could interact. Oh I got the email: "It's with heavy hearts that unfortunately weve made the difficult decision to retire the Stockimo app Over the last few months, weve been reviewing the performance of the app and have ultimately decided to move in a different direction. Although we will continue supporting existing Stockimo contributors like yourself. Youll still be able to manage your uploaded photos and receive/review any sales, but we will NOT be accepting any new photo uploads from now on." Does that mean, just the app? Crazy. 181
Adobe Stock / Re: Unfairly Blocked - My Story« on: January 31, 2024, 15:38 »
What I found interesting was 3 downloads for $971 dollars. What kind of licenses are those? It's not like someone came and downloaded a set of images, or 20 like images or something. Three for $971! I want one of those buyers.
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AI Generated Stock Photography / Re: US Executive Order« on: January 31, 2024, 15:22 »"Finally, my Administration will help develop effective labeling and content provenance mechanisms, so that Americans are able to determine when content is generated using AI and when it is not." Honest in labeling, could be a good thing as fake AI, creative, imaginary images won't be used as supposedly real. 183
General Stock Discussion / Re: Anybody using ChatGPT for microstock?« on: January 31, 2024, 15:18 »
Does AI use stop words or ignore them? Does punctuation have any value? Why do I see prompts that have things like f11:10 on the end? What does that mean?
I'd like to know what actually matters, instead of just throwing out words and having some random seed start to make a image that's using some of that and ignoring other parts. Anyone have a guide? I've tried a number of times, just for an example, to get SDXL to make "A cow jumping over the Moon" Never one, it puts in a cow, on the moon, over a moon background, all kinds of things, but not a cow, above the moon or jumping over it. DALL-E does better but low quality output. 184
General Stock Discussion / Re: What is your posture regarding AI?« on: January 29, 2024, 13:28 ». 185
AI Generated Stock Photography / Re: can you tell which faces are ai?« on: January 29, 2024, 13:21 »it wont let us see it. Same here, NY TIMES "Enjoy unlimited access for $1 a week. Welcome offer $6.25 $1/week Billed as $4 every 4 weeks for your first 6 months. Cancel or pause anytime. " Would have been fun? 186
AI Generated Stock Photography / Re: New EU AI Act and its Impact on AI-Generated Stock Content« on: January 29, 2024, 13:04 ».. The problem with hands is, not all hands are flat out, four fingers spread, and a thumb. Some are holding things, some are pointing, some are shaking hands or holding hands. At that point and add variations of how many angles or fingers showing, the AI doesn't understand what a hand consists of, since there's no way to know the exact situation, and how many fingers are supposed to be there? We get the monsters. b) The courts may "decide". If they decide to say that theft is not theft, it does not mean its not theft. One does not need a 3rd party "authority" to decide if something is wrong, when they know it is in fact wrong. If you say so, but the courts make the laws. I won't even try to say, what's right and wrong, different countries, different religions, different values. I think something like the Ten Commandments is pretty straight forward, what's right. (except for all those shalt nots, which could have been more positive instead of so negative?) What I'm just pointing out is, if the courts say it's fair use, it's not stealing. If you call fair use, stealing, that's your choice, but you or I don't make laws or enforce them. Please read this? https://www.findlaw.com/smallbusiness/intellectual-property/fair-use-law.html I'm just going to pick and choose, which is not in depth, but in the section where they explain, the four factors that the courts look at: "The more transformative a new work, the more likely a court will consider it fair use." "Courts consider how much material was copied and if the copied material is a central part of the original work." If you use assorted learned pixels from 5 billion images, one might have to agree, it's transformative? And if you use 5 billion images to train the AI, how could the new image, be derived from the central part of one single image? Reading a copyrighted book is not stealing, but we can learn from that and come up with new ideas of our own. Machine learning is doing just that, by viewing images. It is not "stealing" images, it's just looking at them. And if the courts decide it's stealing and not fair use, I'm fine with that. I'm only looking at the law and what it is, instead of what I'd like it to be. 187
Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock "Contributor Fund"« on: January 27, 2024, 12:59 »Most likely this is for 2023 everything that was included in the Datacatalog Well I got nothing and some people got something. Anyway, typical Shutterstock, no communication with contributors, so we are all just left scratching our heads about what period this covers. 100% award for you! 188
Adobe Stock / Re: Illustrative Editorial Requirements Question« on: January 27, 2024, 12:51 »designed to illustrate articles on current events and newsworthy topics Thanks... Green and Gold Packer cow, with cheese and beer. It's all Wisconsin. Regarding illustrative editorial requirements for photos on Adobestock. Adobestock does not accept Illustrative editorial images with recognizable people in them. I know Mat reads here and especially this subject. Maybe he's waiting for an answer, or how to answer, from Adobe? 189
AI Generated Stock Photography / Re: New EU AI Act and its Impact on AI-Generated Stock Content« on: January 27, 2024, 12:43 »Hi Pete, In your opinion. I tried the detailed explanation, now the shortest version possible. Images are not directly used to create new images. Yes, the courts will decide this and if it is Fair Use or not. Your reasoning for why hands are wrong is one of the most laughable things I've read today. You clearly are in denial or don't understand how AI/Machine Learning works. "not enough examples" LAION, the nonprofit that put the database together, used web crawling tools to create datasets with more than 5 billion links to online images, which companies can then pull from to use as training data for their own AI models. AI does not understand function or purpose, it only understands training. AI doesn't know how many fingers or how many legs on a chair, or how many legs on a horse. Not because it hasn't seen enough in 5 billion images, but because AI lacks reasoning. AI doesn't understand anatomy, only what it has seen. And since AI creates new images from training, it might have more or less fingers, based on the random samples it uses to create the new hand. 190
Adobe Stock / Re: Unfairly Blocked - My Story« on: January 26, 2024, 13:44 »In an attempt to fight fraud, unsuspecting parents who were receiving child support from the state were unjustly targeted (via racial profiling) and accused of fraud. Even though they did nothing wrong, they had to pay back the full amount of child support they'd received over the years, causing huge debts. When they tried contacting the tax authorities, they always received canned responses and accusations and nobody listened to their cries for help. It was like talking to a brick wall. Very kafkaesque. Prisons all over are full of innocent people, just ask any of the inmates? Is the legal system in the Netherlands that messed up, that they couldn't file a legal appeal through the courts? Or that they couldn't find an attorney to act on their behalf. Do you know these people, personally? Ask them why they only hammered on breaking a brick wall, instead of going around it. Microstock is different. No legal system, only the agency as authority, and yes, one department, probably doesn't communicate with the others. But someone being penalized for success is quite the slap at the artist and OP. 191
Adobe Stock / Re: Illustrative Editorial Requirements Question« on: January 26, 2024, 13:38 »I'm very interested in getting an answer for this one too. Since illustrative editorial is a form of editorial and can be used for news articles, I was under the assumption that image manipulation wasn't allowed. Though I could be completely wrong. Not the same as News Editorial. "At Adobe Stock, we define illustrative editorial as conceptual imagery designed to illustrate articles on current events and newsworthy topics. This type of content often features images of real brands and products like signs on buildings, soda cans, computers, and cars to convey a story. " I suppose someone who goes to the forum on Discord could ask, Adobe. Myself I see they are different, where real news has to be authentic. Even the limits on editing are different. 192
Adobe Stock / Re: I can't find my approved images on Adobestock« on: January 26, 2024, 13:24 »
I bookmarked the link years ago, so easier than going to AS and clicking contributor account. The OP said his were not showing on that page, which you are correct, shows the same as the link, just below the featured collections. 193
AI Generated Stock Photography / Re: New EU AI Act and its Impact on AI-Generated Stock Content« on: January 26, 2024, 13:16 »Lets start, the agencies aren't in the EU. I'm not either. But lets say, OK if they want to sell there, they will need to abide with those regulations. Problems with the disclosure Publishing summaries of copyrighted data used for training. 1) Yes, we looked your image. So what? 2) We downloaded your image? But it wasn't used in the training 3) We used your image to train the machines. 4) There's no way to prove a one to one direct use of your image, in any generated results. 5) Images are not directly used to create new images, the machines learn and create new images from their training. But aside from that nest of snags and questions. Fair Use What is fair use. The courts need to decide that. I look up a word in the dictionary and find the spelling and meaning and I use that knowledge to write a sentence. I publish the sentence. Did I steal the meaning or the word? I look at a photo and find the meaning and learn about how it's composed and the subject. I create my own image, using that knowledge, I didn't copy the image, I just learned from it. AI does not copy images or re-use bits of them in the new images. It learns from what's in the images, the content and shapes, and creates an entirely new image. Fair Use? AI training is not stealing images. As much as I don't like AI and I'm not impressed by people with seven fingers and three arms or hands growing out of their ears and face, it's not directly using my images in the output product. AI / machine learning, is looking and learning. The courts will decide that, not us or some political agreement. 194
General Stock Discussion / Re: best agencies« on: January 26, 2024, 12:52 »
Please explain? One image at a time? They have copy keywords and a kind of batch thing. I don't use it, because mostly nothing I do is the same, but there's some kind of populate from previous image. Or did you mean something else. DT is the easiest for me to upload, especially vectors, where I upload the JPG and then the "additional". They match them, include the data and, it's done. Automatic categories. Worst part of DT is, yes I get accepted, no I don't sell much. what is the best agencies for vectors ? Good question, I wonder if I'm missing something by only working SS, AS, DT? IS I get some DLs but uploading is such torture that I stopped. I wonder if there is another that might be better for vectors than for photos? 195
Adobe Stock / Re: I can't find my approved images on Adobestock« on: January 25, 2024, 12:05 »or just click on "Contributor Account" on Top Menu Bar, then "See my Public Profile" which will open in new Tab. Doesn't work for me, it shows the Featured Collections. If you use this and add you ID number, you also have to add the = back in, after clicking the link. It drops it when you go to the page for ####### https://stock.adobe.com/search/images?creator_id=####### You can click the link and add =1234567 your ID number 196
General Stock Discussion / Re: What have your best stock agencies in 2023 been?« on: January 25, 2024, 11:33 »the link is not workingI think Rob meant this link, but accidentally made an error with the link formatting: https://www.facebook.com/fotoproduzent/posts/pfbid02zqdMHyC661xGNrZeQqxZteatYjfMbFcoRgxLFexagFMJW9rvjdCdVFBAVQdnvAel That one works: https://www.facebook.com/fotoproduzent/posts/pfbid02zqdMHyC661xGNrZeQqxZteatYjfMbFcoRgxLFexagFMJW9rvjdCdVFBAVQdnvAel My top ten agencies? I only have one. The rest don't make enough to be ranked. Adobe Stock 197
General Stock Discussion / Re: MASSIVE ACTION NEEDED - we are closing stock accounts of image thieves« on: January 25, 2024, 11:30 »Oh, I see. Now I am the bad guy here and I need to prove innocent. This community and whole stock industry is going downhill. NAH, it's just that sometimes it's nice to see specifics of what they stole of your original work and then fed into AI, to alter it and reuse your work. I think from the first post, someone might have thought they were stealing your AI to make AI. Not that they were copying your actual original images (not ideas, which aren't protected) and then using that as source material. Got a couple? 198
General Stock Discussion / Re: best agencies« on: January 25, 2024, 11:02 »I guess what I'm looking for is one more website to constantly reload the contributor summary page on. Seems to me it's pretty clearly AS in first place, istock in a distant 2nd and SS is trying to win the race for last place (for photo and a little video). If I'm going to waste time submitting to SS maybe I can waste a little more at dreamstime or depositphoto or something? Seems dreamstime is the consensus 4th least worst? Correct me if I'm wrong. Nope you're not wrong. The problem comes down to, what are your images and how many? Then how much time will you have to spend to drop those images into a black hole? Yes, DT is probably the next best after the three, and maybe DP is next after that. If there was a 4th I'd want to know that too. My point of view is, there are only 3 right now. Yes I have a DT account, I'm trying to make it to $100 so I can close it. BUT... I have a friend or two that make payout there, every few months. I think there are others here who say they like the returns from DP. And there are people who have dropped SS when the reset and 10c commissions came in. In the end, you'll have to try and see or depending on what your images are, see what your personal results are. Mine say, AS, SS and IS. All the rest that I hang on to, are dying or dead. 199
Dreamstime.com / Re: The Dreamstime levels system« on: January 24, 2024, 13:28 »This is like complaining about the quality of the food on the Titanic. Dreamstime is a sinking ship, the levels didn't mean much 5-10 years ago but certainly don't matter today, because the majority is sub sales anyway (not just on DT)...if you're lucky to get sales at all. You mean like these places? Canva Vecteezy Pond5 Zoonar ColourBox DepositPhotos PantherMedia 123RF Canstockphoto Bigstockphoto PhotoCase MostPhotos Envato ClipDealer PicFair YayImages 200
Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe Stock Review Time« on: January 24, 2024, 13:16 »what u smoking bro? I have images waiting from 29 days ago... I have a variety, oldest is "last month" newest is 6 days ago. But in between that, some have been accepted and are live. 19 days, 15 days, 12 days, 6 days. I wouldn't call that very quick. And I promise on a good day, has never been faster that SSTK. |
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