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Adobe Stock / Re: fotolia is sinking
« on: August 31, 2011, 09:54 »
From a video contributor perspective my sales were always quite steady and in the last couple of months i have experienced a huge drop in sales which i thought was atttributed to a summer slowdown but it doesnt appear to be picking up, i am quite worried about it. This together with further redeductions in comission to contributors means that i am no longer recommending FT to anyone and i opted out of their subs program.

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A union has been discussed countless times in this and other forums. For many reasons, a union isn't realistic in this business and wouldn't accomplish anything.

The most significant reason being that agencies would be under no obligation to listen to a union any more than to individual contributors.

That and a union would never gain the kind of membership you'd expect. Most microstock contributors are not active in the forums, don't really care about the politics of the business, and are largely solitary in their microstock activities.

I think you've slightly missunderstood at what i was trying to put forward as an idea. I wasnt talking about a union in a traditional sense, more like a representation of a collective voice and through this we could all decide to take a certain course of action and vote whether or not to do it, we have many options as well. Like i said above:

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"It may not change a lot because agencies are free to do what they want to do, we have to acknowledge this but at the same time we dont have to take it. At the very least it will show that we are united and we are watching agencies which may in turn force them to rethink certain policies.

I also completely understand that most microstock contributors are not active on the forums and dont really care about the politics, but if one member sitemails another member advertising the "union" and asks him to pass it on to one other person and so on and so on, it would go a long way. Plus put the word out on sites like microstockdiaries etc.

So in terms of getting a sizable amount of people interested i cant see it being a problem personally.

My personal opinion is that if this cannot be acheived then there simply is no way out of this, you cant sit on your butt and wait for a magical agency to appear that treats contributors fairly, you have to fight for your right and this is the best way to acheive exactly that.

Hope it comes into fruition and if it does i will be the 1st to join up. And on that note im dropping out of this discussion.

Good luck.

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The ideal situation would be that we have a union that would represent contributors as a whole and could negotiate with the agencies or threaten them with mass pullouts which if there was a large base of people that were part would be a pretty big problem for agencies.. That would be the only way to be able to really effect a change otherwise they know there is really no resistence for them because there is no organization on this end. nothing will happen unless the majority is organised together, which happens in Macro, but I don't think that it will happen in micro because of the mass amounts of "small fish" that don't have enough of an interest in the business to want to make that kind of effort or sacrifice..

 I am personally not uploading any more to either IS or FT, and as a buyer I will not purchase from them for my designs either.. I will start to give more images to my Macro agencies.

I think tubed has basicly hit the nail on the head and reflects what i have been thinking about for quite sometime.

The odd contributor here and there that threatens to pull their portfolio from one of the many sites wont have any impact whatsoever.

1st and foremost we need unity and to be represented by a single voice because at the moment its just a fragmented mess. Once we have unity we could have more clout. This could be a type of union but more like a site to which we are registered to where we could all stay informed and voice our opinions, a typcal forum and blog would play a pivotal role but with the sole purpose for the protection of us. it could also serve to protect individual contributors who have been treated unfairly but have had no where to turn.

This "union" could also not only be used to point the finger at agencies that are taking liberties but also to commend and recommend agencies that treat contributers fairly. Above all it should have a positive impact.

In terms of funding it could be purely paypal donations and maybe some revenue through the usual adverts.

I'd like to re-iterate that we cannot do anything unless many of us are united (doesnt have to be all) and if we could all decide upon a certain course of action we could be a devasting force to make any agency take notice.

In the grand scheme of things we do have to be realistic, it may not change a lot because agencies are free to do what they want to do, we have to acknowledge this but at the same time we dont have to take it. At the very least it will show that we are united and we are watching agencies which may in turn force them to rethink certain policies. I for one would like to be a part of this movement.

Just to finish off i'd like to say that many of the ideas people on MSG have had i think are also good options such as a brand new agency that treats and pay contributors fairly. But just think how well this agency could do if it also had the backing of a large microstock union?

Basicly anything we decide to do should 1st and foremost begin with a union where we could stand together collectively, advise and promote sites that treat us fairly.

Lots of good ideas so far, keep em coming!

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Its pretty hidden away and i think it may have been moved since they re-jigged the site:

Once logged in:

My Account -> My Dashboard
Account Information -> Edit -> then click on Contributor Parameters.

And then under Notification Preferences there are some checkboxes.

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I dont trust them either. I just thought that it was odd that i didnt actually recieve any email notifiying all of the changes and then all of a sudden i was earning less for HD subscription downloads. It was only by chance that i came here and saw that someone had posted it. To be honest i think they kept that part quiet on purpose. Anyways, i found the option to opt out and did so because i draw the line there.

Thanks for listening.

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Yeah, the way i understood it was that HD video would no longer be available under the subscription plan but yesterday i received this:

Purchase Date: 2011-08-19 01:11:08
Purchase License: V_HD1080
Commission: 2.7

Which was a premium subsciption.

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Just thought i'd bump this thread because it appears that the ridiculously low comission rate of premium subscription HD video downloads has gone down from $3.6 to $2.7.

If you are opt'd into this you may of already noticed this change.

I would advise everyone to opt out and spread the word to your fellow videographers.

Of course you may be perfectly happy with that commision, but I for one am not and if you feel the same please pass the message on.

Thanks.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia: New Subscription Commissions
« on: August 18, 2011, 16:29 »
I must of not understood the changes correctly because i just earned $2.7 for subscription based HD purchase. It used to be a painful 3.5 but now this....I thought that HD files were no longer available under the subscription plan.

If this is indeed true i am opting out. This is becoming rediculous.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia: New Subscription Commissions
« on: August 17, 2011, 18:26 »
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Im a videographer and the subscription removal for HD videos is a welcome change - i think. I was earning a whopping 3.7 dollars for videos that took more than a week to create


No, no!!! That's the opposite too!! Because actually you can uncheck " sell video in subscription" in your profile, i've done that some months ago  and i've never sold a video by subscription!!


But now, they going to sell small size video for nothing, next time, they will probably erase the possibility of subscription choice etc. Each time contributors lose royalties and choice, and the trap is closing slowly until they have to sell photos, vectors and video for 10cents, maybe less in the future!


Thanks for the heads up, i didnt realise i could do that, but to be honest even if i did know im not sure if i would opt out because with all the subscription downloads i get it does add up at the end of the month albeit small change but change none the less.

So what im trying to find out is if i will earn less because the cheapo subscription buyers may just decided to no longer purchase video. Or maybe they will just buy small web video in which case i will gain an even smaller commision, at least thats what i understood from the thread starter.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Fotolia: New Subscription Commissions
« on: August 17, 2011, 16:38 »
Im a videographer and the subscription removal for HD videos is a welcome change - i think. I was earning a whopping 3.7 dollars for videos that took more than a week to create. But now im unsure how this will affect buyers habits. I kinda imaged that the habit of subscription video buyers was to sift through HD videos on fotolia like they were apples on a tree, kinda like...hmm, i like that one, that one, that one, this one and oooh that one as well - adding them all to their cart. And now that they wont have that facility anymore, will they still purchase as frequently? will they only go for web sized?

Not sure if i will re-coup this revenue stream, only time will tell.

Anyway, back to all you photographers :)

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If i personally were to start one off i would go the route of istock and make it very community and contributor focused with a good forum and continual feedback from the site's management. I always think those istockalypses are a good idea and also a good way to advertise the site.

Off the top of my head:

I would offer images, video, vector right off the bat, and initially i wouldnt offer exclusivity but not rule it out.

I would also go straight to international markets and actively encourage it because i think this still is an uncracked nut.

Photo previews with ability to zoom in 100%
High quality video previews.
Transparent credit versus dollar like Helix suggested.
Tiff or PNG upload in adition to JPEG.
Utility for corporates to upload images direct to PowerPoint.

I could go on..... :)

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I had this thought kicking around my head and thought that it might be interesting to hear your thoughts.

So we all know there are plenty of online stock imagery/video/vector agencies out there and many of you might say that the marketplace is already too saturated.

However if another one were to come along, what do think it would need to do or provide in terms of its customers and contributors in order to be successful. Kinda like what are the current agencies doing right and wrong and if a new angency were to start up, what would be a surefire way for them to succeed? eg. good community/contributor relations, exclusivity option etc.

And no i am not thinking of starting my own agency :)

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Hi Ducan, BIG improvement.

The only thing i would say is make the fact that you sell video a bit more prominent to help your sales and us contributors!

Regards,

stocker2011.

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General - Stock Video / Re: canstockphoto
« on: June 22, 2011, 20:54 »
Im already there and sales are good. I went with canstock because i saw that they are middle tier for photos at least and they incorporate fotosearch as well. I also tried clipdealer and ive had a few from their even though they are lower tier but nothing from canstock so far. Im guessing that maybe for video they are lower tier.

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General - Stock Video / canstockphoto
« on: June 22, 2011, 17:03 »
Any of you videographers had any kind of success with canstock? ive been with them for a month with about 67 vids online and not a single sale as of yet. And to be honest im not holding out much hope either as im seeing good videos from other contributors with lots of views uploaded 2 years ago with only a handful of sales.

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General - Stock Video / The Smaller Sites
« on: May 13, 2011, 14:58 »
My experience with these smaller stock video agencies is that you tend to get a few sales within the first few weeks of uploading with for example a 100 video portfolio but the sales quickly dry up if you stop uploading. I have found this to be the case with clipcanvas.com (apart from the initial 2 sales within the first couple of months) and after a year of no sales i asked to be removed from their site. After that i tried clipdealer.com and i got more initial sales from them because i believe they are older and therefore have a bigger presence in the market but again the sales are not coming anymore - sound familiar?

My theory is that their search engines prioritises your newest uploads for a set period and then after that you go down in the rankings. Personally i dont like this type technique that they impoly within search engines. Other sites such as pond5, fotolia and istockphoto sales seem to keep coming and i didnt experience any tailing off with my sales with those sites based upon my frequency of uploading. It would appear that the smaller sites use a 'dangling the carrot' method to keep enticing you to upload.

Based upon my theory maybe it might be a good idea to upload in stages, maybe like 50 in one go just to get your presence in there and then 10 every week after that. In the grand scheme of things im not sure if they would want to you upload in that manner as a bigger portfolio for them in a shorter space of time would be more beneficial to them, but if their search engine treats you liek that then they leave me with no choice.

Of course these are just my theories based upon my own personal experience so others may well have a different opinion depending on their type/quality and size of their port.

I have also just finished uploading my entire port to canstockphoto and will report back with findings in the coming months. My inital findings are that their keywording and submitting process looks quick but insta-fail with the inability to choose thumbnail pic of your video, which for CG videographers such as myself can be the make or break of sales.

Thanks for reading and please feel free to add your experiences with the smaller agencies.

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Hi tbmp, im curious to know if youve had any sales with them yet?

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General - Stock Video / Re: mediastock
« on: March 19, 2011, 08:50 »
It appears that they have only been running for about a year and a half now which is very short for most agencies in this business. I also checked out their facebook and twitter pages and doesnt look like much has been going on there.

http://twitter.com/mediastock_ca

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Mediastock/256312695352?v=wall&ref=search

I registered but i dont think i'll bother.

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General - Stock Video / mediastock
« on: March 18, 2011, 16:26 »
Just found out about "yet another" all-in-one photo/footage etc. site called www.mediastock.ca

Their percentages seem good and their site appear to be fully featured apart from the blog and forum link which takes you no where :)

Anyone have any experience with them?

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