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Canva / Re: Almost any images get rejected instantly?!
« on: November 06, 2023, 19:40 »
I tried my luck again with 100 backgrounds (made with camera and not with AI) and within 2 seconds (looked at the clock) 94 were rejected and I don't even see a rejection reason - but how to add a rejection reason in 2 seconds too ;-)

In an upload before that, about 20 of 150 images had come at least after "in review" - 2 days later these 18 were also rejected -> rejection rate 99%.
And no, I upload there only things that were accepted on the relevant agencies without major problems.
Sorry to hear that! I've sent you a PM, would love to take a look :)
Thanks for your PM, i just replied and hopefully the reply did reach you (didn't get a confirmation).

Looking forward what the reason for the rejection was :-)

Have a sunny day@all

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock "Contributor Fund"
« on: November 02, 2023, 11:30 »
If they stick to their word, a payout should come in November - whether you believe it is up to you :-)

At least I hope that a payout will come, as the amount was quite good, at least for me.

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Canva / Re: Almost any images get rejected instantly?!
« on: October 31, 2023, 12:11 »
I tried my luck again with 100 backgrounds (made with camera and not with AI) and within 2 seconds (looked at the clock) 94 were rejected and I don't even see a rejection reason - but how to add a rejection reason in 2 seconds too ;-)

In an upload before that, about 20 of 150 images had come at least after "in review" - 2 days later these 18 were also rejected -> rejection rate 99%.
And no, I upload there only things that were accepted on the relevant agencies without major problems.

Uploading anything on Canva really doesn't make sense anymore and if you then take into account the rip-off with the "one-time AI boost payment".

And what really surprises me - Canva doesn't seem to care at all, otherwise someone from there would have surely said something about it - because they are reading along here :-)

Happy Halloween,
Michael

PS: And yes, of course I realize that I am far too unimportant to interest anyone there - but you could also just say that, would at least be honest :)

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https://www.canva.com/en_au/help/creators-support-form/
Thank you Mir - I guess I was looking too hard for an email :-)
To keep you informed on the topic of "Was it all to Boost AI Payment":
I got a really quick response from support with clear and concise answers, so from there a "thumbs up" for support.

However, the content of the answers is really sobering.
I was told that the "one-time Boost payment" is 20% of the average last month's earnings.
So it is calculated completely according to the use of the image data and not according to the amount of data, which in my opinion is already the wrong approach for an AI training, but well so it is.

If we now take 20% of the average last monthly revenue (which is 1.67% of the average annual revenue - 20 divided by 12) as a one-time "boost payment" for the use of the AI training, this results in my case with 8966 photos in a usage fee of $2.01 divided by 8966 = $0.000224, i.e. 0.02 cents per image.

Furthermore I got the hint in the support that the future monthly AI usage fees can be significantly lower, quote:
-> "To set your expectations, this initial payment is intentionally larger than what the monthly payments will be since those payments will be based on your upcoming content.".

So it will still be significantly less than $2.01 - Um, hello?

We were already upset when iStock set the royalties at 15% and when Shutterstock restarted the hamster wheel with the steps every year and cut our royalties by about 60%.

But what is happening here at Canva is, in my personal opinion, really unsurpassable in terms of greed.
For me, this is really completely ridiculous and absurd.

I realize that I'm risking my Canva account with this post, because I'm sure I'll make myself unpopular there.
But there really are limits to greed and they are exceeded here by lengths.

This just had to come out now,
Greetings, Michael



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Hi DannyCanva,

...
I just received $2.01 for my initial participation in the AI Creators program for my 8,966 photos.
Sorry, but I can only hope this is a joke, because $0.000224 can hardly be adequate compensation for using photos to train your AI.
...

I hope there will be some more compensation here and ask for some official info on this.
For context, I'll quote myself - sorry about that :-)

Since we don't seem to get an answer here to the question whether (in my case $2.01) this was the total compensation for our assets (in my case 9000 images), I just spent a good half hour on the Canva site looking for a support email - with no result.
I'm probably just too blind to find it :)

Does anyone have a Canva support email address handy so I can follow up on whether that was all the compensation?

Thank you,
Michael

PS: And yes I know you could have clicked opt-out, but that's not the point here. The point is at least reasonably fair compensation.

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Adobe Stock / Re: Adobe missions. Participate?
« on: October 25, 2023, 08:08 »
I can no longer see the missions page. Isn it because I did not take part immediately?
I think if you do not have an actual mission in review AND you are not selected to take part in an actual mission, the "mission tab" might be not visible - but I am just guessing.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock "Contributor Fund"
« on: October 25, 2023, 06:35 »
You may have it but you need to scroll all the way to the right to see it. I think they deliberately make it hard to find.
Thank you for the hint!
have checked it - nothing there :-)

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock "Contributor Fund"
« on: October 25, 2023, 06:13 »
Yes I have an amount in Contributor Fund on October 24. It is about 40% down on the previous payment, which I guess is not surprising given the overall slump in SS sales as well as their mediocre implementation of AI.
Interesting and thanks for letting us know!
I still do not have a contributor fund in my list - maybe this will come later today... anyone else with an amount there so far?

And yes, not really surprising the amount is going down.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: Shutterstock "Contributor Fund"
« on: October 25, 2023, 05:39 »
New contributor fund payment is showing up today.
Oh, how do you know - do you have an amount there yet? I don't have anything in the Shutterstock sales overview yet.

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I think so too. According to what was written in the detailed information, there will be a monthly payment if they use our content for AI development.
I would be very happy if you are right and this is "only" the monthly payment.

But there it also says very clearly below the payment "We've given your first payment a one-time boost as special thanks....".
"We've given..." is the past tense and so it means that the one-time payment in my case should already be included in the $2.01.

That's why I would like to see an official information here and I think with 9k images you are allowed to ask for it @DannyCanva :-)

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Hi DannyCanva,

I just received $2.01 for my initial participation in the AI Creators program for my 8,966 photos.
Sorry, but I can only hope this is a joke, because $0.000224 can hardly be adequate compensation for using photos to train your AI.

To put this in context - with the same portfolio this is:
-> 0.71% of what Shutterstock paid for the same portfolio
-> 0.67% of what AdobeStock paid for the same portfolio
-> 1.10% of what BigStock paid for the same portfolio

I hope there will be some more compensation here and ask for some official info on this.

Many thanks,
Michael

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Canva / Re: Canva July sales are in, and it's not good
« on: October 17, 2023, 09:03 »
Has anyone already received their payment?
They have a statement about a delayed payment this month on their page
(see image)

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Canva / Re: Almost any images get rejected instantly?!
« on: October 15, 2023, 04:54 »
For that, I only have this link :
www.canva.com/p/xxxx/   (and xxx is your contributor name)

That working fine - thank you :-)

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Canva / Re: Almost any images get rejected instantly?!
« on: October 15, 2023, 04:26 »
... BUT my total number of accepted images goes DOWN instead of up.  So I can only conclude that they are rejecting older images, or "cleaning up" my port.
Sorry for probably asking (I really don't find Canva's Contributor interface intuitive) - but where can I see the number of assets I've accepted?

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Canva / Re: Almost any images get rejected instantly?!
« on: October 15, 2023, 04:23 »
Are the silhouettes jpgs or pngs with transparent background? Canva does not accept images with objects isolated on white background, it has to be transparent.

I would not know about the other images. I don't think they break any "rule", but I don't really see them as very suitable for Canva. Canva isn't a typical microstock agencie where people buy photos, but where people design stuff, so they are looking for "design elements". I can't really see these images being used for things like posters, websites, greeting cards, booklets or multimedia presentations.
Thanks, that are really good hints - the silhouettes are not transparent, I will try that - should be done within some minutes :-)

A large amount of my images (20%+) is backgrounds and textures, where I thought those are design elements - maybe they are just over saturated with that.

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Canva / Almost any images get rejected instantly?!
« on: October 14, 2023, 17:39 »
Hello,

I now upload photos to more than 15 stock sites and on all of them I can see why an image is rejected from time to time.

Only on Canva about 95% of my images are rejected within 2-3 seconds of appearing in the image list and I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.

I have added a few examples in images below - different areas like background textures, silhouettes and my last Tenerife holidays :-)
(These images have been accepted 90%+ on about 15 pages).

Does anyone perhaps have a good tip as to why almost everything is rejected within a few seconds and how to get images through there?

Thank you,
Michael

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Canva / Re: Canva July sales are in, and it's not good
« on: October 13, 2023, 15:56 »
https://www.canva.com/creators/element

Select dashboard, it's in the upper left.
Thank you for the quick answer - I was just blind again :-) Sorry!

Applies +38%, Exports +21%, Earnings -3%

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Canva / Re: Canva July sales are in, and it's not good
« on: October 13, 2023, 15:25 »
I am sure I have seen it over, but where do I see the applies and exports?

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Deepmeta very problematic at the moment
« on: October 12, 2023, 14:47 »
Thank you for the advice. I downloaded the latest version and it worked perfectly.
I'm glad to hear that - I think it's a shame that the tool can't just tell you "hey there's a new version, please use that".

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At Shutterstock, a real non-AI travel photo (beach scene with people) was rejected today with the reason:

"AI Generated Content: AI generated content is prohibited. Repeated submission of such content will result in account suspension and/or termination."

This is an older photo that I post-processed with Topaz Sharpen and Topaz Gigapixel AI and then with the latest version of Photoshop. I did not use the AI functions of Photoshop. I have been using Topaz for years without any problems.

Does anyone have similar experiences and maybe know where the problem is?

I'm holding off on my uploads for now and waiting for Shutterstock to respond.

It is noticeable that the tone of the agencies has become harsher and more threatening since AI.
Thank you for sharing this info.

I would like to shed light on this from a technical point of view as I have had such cases happen to me myself with Shutter, Deposit and Vecteezy - i.e. rejection of images due to AI where a camera still took the image.

Why from a technical point of view - maybe this helps to understand why these automatic systems mark images as "AI".

Tools like Topaz Sharpen and Topaz Gigapixel use so-called GAN networks and rebuild a sharpened or enlarged image completely from our photo - i.e. from the original photo there is not a single pixel left in the final image.
The image is reassembled in small blocks from a GAN AI network similar to MidJourney, Firefly, etc. and the automatic recognition software now recognizes that certain features from a generative AI are to be recognized here.

You can see this effect especially well, if you for example scale small font with Topaz Gigapixel from 400% - then you have interesting "alien letters".
(You can see what I mean in the attached image - it is a nice scaling, but it is a generated image)

So from a technical point of view, an image sharpened or scaled with GAN networks is a generated AI image and that's why these systems strike.

In short, the systems are not good at deciding between "Generative AI for complete image generation" and "Generative AI for small image elements for image enhancements" - and no I don't want to defend the systems at Shutter & Co here, those systems need to be improved before letting them run on our content.

Sorry for the wall of text,
VG Michael

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Deepmeta very problematic at the moment
« on: October 09, 2023, 12:23 »
Ah, my version is 3.23.6. Though it wasn't downloaded all that long ago. I'll try and delete it and download the latest version. Would you know if existing metadata is carried over to the new version?
I have done a lot of updates on deepmeta and all metadata has always been carried to the new version, so with the 3.23.8 in my case - everything worked fine with the metadata.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Deepmeta very problematic at the moment
« on: October 09, 2023, 08:25 »
My only guess is: Do you have the latest version 3.23.8 installed?
I had similar problems with an older version.

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Shutterstock.com / Re: What a cool SS, how well he sells
« on: October 06, 2023, 06:12 »
Very nice, congrats!

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Hello Jo Ann,

Dreamstime, Deposit Photos and I think 123rf accept gen AI content, but not Getty/iStock, Shutterstock or...
Are you sure about Deposit Photos accepting AI content?
Its about 2 month ago, but then my uploaded AI content was rejected with the reason "We do not accept AI-generated files due to potential copyright issues."

Have a nice day@all

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