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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Best Match Update
« on: September 28, 2011, 00:57 »
For the moment I dont seem too much affected, because I uploaded a lot recently. What I fear though and it almost feels like panic in retrospective to what has happened since the beginning of the year, is that buyers will leave iStock.

Make a search for "beach running" - there are four files from a single contributor that are almost identical in the top 30 results. Id be very surprised if this is what buyers want.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Best Match Update
« on: September 27, 2011, 12:33 »
Being an exclusive I feel scared by this new best match.

Make a search for t-shirt. If a buyer wants a t-shirt, he usually wants a t-shirt and not people wearing them. At least there should be a balance between people wearing t-shirts and t-shirts only. But this is just rediculous. I bet this is again scaring buyers away - when will istock realize that they have to please their buyers and ask them what they want instead of assuming what might be right.

Maybe they did ask - there was a survey lately (not the contributor survey). But they asked me too whether I wanted to take part and so did they ask other contributors that occasionally buy images. Of course those contribs were asking for newer files to be given a bigger priority. But people who are mainly contributors shouldnt be asked and allowed to take part in buyer surveys that are meant to get an idea of the markets demands.

Oh well...

Giving new files a chance is a good thing, but the way it was implemented last week is really really frightening. I hope it will be rolled back pretty soon.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: August best match shift?
« on: September 24, 2011, 10:24 »
wow, I just made a search for bald eagle. On the first page best match result with 100 images, there were
66 with 0 DLs
10 with 1DL

and only
8 with >10 DLs

Seriously - are they trying to chase away ALL buyers??? This cant be called a best match. Obviously the buyers arent too happy with the result they get, otherwise theyd buy the images.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Give up or not?
« on: September 18, 2011, 10:23 »
It has become way more difficult to make money with stock. And especially for a beginner its hard to understand why some images are in the libraries that would now get rejected - even for copyright reasons. Why are some product shots in the library while new ones get rejected (e.g. the ever so popular mac computers - lots and lots in the libraries but if you upload a new one with removed logos it gets rejected for copyright reasons, even if its only part of the image) - very hard to digest.

Anyway - if you have the slightest optimism that you might make money from some of your images in the future, you MUST NOT give them away for free. And even if you dont have any hopes - please try to keep in mind that some people are trying to make a living from SELLING images. Its definitely tempting to know other people like your images and download them, but history seems to be repeated here.

A few years ago some big traditional agencies refused to open the gates to their libraries for some photographers. Being turned away, some of these photographers started selling their content on some upcoming small agencies that sold images way cheaper. So the later called microstock agencies were able to gather a pretty good stock of growing quality images in very short time. That new competition has quickly become a big threat to a once flourishing business nowadays called macrostock.

We fellow photographers only put our work up for sale on those microstock and macrostock agencies we are not the ones rejecting your work. Even if some of my collegues above seem to be a bit arrogant, please help feeding our families by not giving away images for free.

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General Stock Discussion / Re: Sales dropping. Istock especially.
« on: September 18, 2011, 09:55 »
Unfortunately Im experiencing a similar pattern. I had a good year until June, but then there were very bad July and August, and now the sales dont seem to pick up like they used to. Many of the reasons have been named I think, but it seems were also heading into a new economical state - people are waiting what will happen. And the first things being cut are always marketing budgets.

That being said, I like most of you am pretty sure iStock lost a lot of customers due to their search policy. We told them it would happen, but they didnt listen - very bad for all of us, including istock.
Now they are trying to get customers back but it will take a lot of time and effort. They are announcing some quite good ideas - unfortunately way before they are able to implement them, giving the competition time to work on the same ideas simultaneously. Sad for me being an exclusive.

For the moment Im putting quite some efforts into marketing my company to become stronger on the assignment side of business. It seems Ive been concentraing too long on stock. It has become hard to break even with model costs and such in a timely manner when doing stock shootings. If the trend continues it might not be worth shooting for stock anymore.

And something very specific to you, Yuri. While I admire your work I think you spent too much time teaching the competition. It sure was good to become popular and such, but in the longrun it might not have been the best idea.

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Interesting read. I pulled my portfolio of 1.000+ files from fotolia two or so years ago because of their subscriptions. They called me twice and asked me not to if only I had a little patience. Well, my patience lasted 6 months, and several email reminders.
If they wouldnt have acted like that I might start uploading again. But they just dont seem to be a fair and honest partner. Who knows - maybe they just want to gather more clips in a rush and then they reduce royalties again, or introduce new subscription plans. For me they never made enough money to even justify the time it takes to upload the videos.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Location Aware search test
« on: August 16, 2011, 00:23 »
Honestly Im quite happy with the results. If it were more localized, it would mean that some of us could lose a lot of money. As a contributor of a small european country I guess my files would hardly sell anywhere if the search was localized too much.
The way it is now it seems that there is some local content, but not too much.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: iStock Location Aware search test
« on: August 15, 2011, 08:15 »
Seems like there are just a few minutes left, right? What about the OP (holgs) making the decision on the keywords for us and how things should be done to get a good comparison?

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As far as I can tell (and I don't really pay any attention to what he does because I operate in a completely different market) Yuri has identified the biggest selling sector of stock, analysed exactly what it is that makes pictures in that genre desirable, and churns it out in huge quantities and at a quality level that is at least as good as anyone else's, while relentlessly promoting himself.  It's a brilliant strategy but it's not one intended to produce anything particularly unique or irreplaceable.
Im usually not the cult type of guy, but Im also not envious. I respect people - especially if they achieve something I havent. No matter if its because of talent, effort or whatever.
In regard to quality: he is shooting with some of the best equipment available. Sure equipment alone doesnt make a good picture, but at least it adds to the quality youd have to admit. So I honestly think his work is better than most others (not all). One element would be flash recycle times - if you can shoot multiple frames (per sec) when shooting with models you might much more easily get the right timing than shooting one every 2-3 seconds. Using professional models too adds to the quite long list, so does knowing the market and competition.

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exactly my opinion - there would be a lot of talk in the press and such. That would be good advertising to begin with - good for him, bad for others. In no time many buyers would know that he had his images on his own site. So they would at least have a look. If the site is good, they might stay there. And thats the importance of Yuri for the agencies. While many of his countrymen (some of them even shared his studio it seems) might stay exclusive on istock, they may as well follow him to his new agency. And then the whole "Yuri-Style" might move. Lise has great images, no doubt, so has Sean and others, but sometimes people are looking for a certain style and there arent really many people with that style who are not to some extent related to Yuri.

And Im not sure if Yuri does that all for business purposes - of course he is a clever businessman - but he also loves what he is doing plus he loves the success, plus he loves the publicity (just look at the videos he is doing - either he is a great actor, or he just loves his work/achievement - well, and has every right to do so). He might do that just for the fun of it, or perhaps to show some agencies that he doesnt swallow all of their moves. The "announcment" seems to come at a very certain time. And - it seems he can afford it. He could easily retire by now.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istockphoto Best Match Tweak 5/27/11
« on: May 27, 2011, 10:31 »
Best Match should look similar to the search by downloads with weighting on searched for keywords.  New files are not the best matched files until buyers decide that, the problem was that new fiels (Vetta and Agency) went straight to the top.  They didn't represent the best match at all.
Not if the buyer doesnt see the image. I for one will wait how things develop before I upload some more new content. I have lost too many images with changes like that. But I really do appreciate the change - cant have all at once I guess.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: Istockphoto Best Match Tweak 5/27/11
« on: May 27, 2011, 10:11 »
Wow, but since they announced they arent going to make huge changes anymore, I bet this was done by mistake.

Unfortunately it doesnt look too different from "sort by downloads" now, so I guess new files will hardly sell if it stays like this.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Leaving Space on Isolated Objects
« on: May 02, 2011, 23:37 »
The problem is:
most buyers can add the copyspace themselves on isolated obects, others cant because they are no designers and such, they just want to put some text over the image. Some agencies might see that potential, others dont. I guess they know their clients better than we do.
On the other hand: the buyers that can put the copyspace there themselves might be angry if they buy too much white space around an object. So I suggest you produce a very tight image you upload to most agencies and add a little extra white space for uploading to dreamstime in PS.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: No crisis du jour at istockphoto?
« on: April 29, 2011, 00:04 »
Some valid points. All in all I think beside iStock grabbing a bigger part of the cake, our biggest problem for now are all the bugs on that site. Id love to see their real numbers - I bet they went way down since the beginning of the year. But I still feel that money is taken from the whole industry.

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iStockPhoto.com / Re: No crisis du jour at istockphoto?
« on: April 28, 2011, 01:05 »
I'm just grateful that Shutterstock appear to be taking up some of the slack.

Yes indeed.  Also true for me (I'm very happy to say).

Well, thats just the problem. Even if buyers are leaving iStock and others are taking up SOME of the slack, it takes money from the whole industry. Shutterstock mostly sells subscriptions and compared to the price per image on iStock thats way less.
On the other hand - we had a similar situation last year when a lot of people were complaining about a very bad April after a BME March (for almost all contributors) if I remember right.

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Yes, Lisa I will stay exclusive.
I have been treated badly by other companies too - like Fotolia.
Im not a big enough fish to change anything by getting non exclusive again, so my decisions are purely economical. I would have made the cut if I had been exclusive from the beginning of the year, so Im pretty confident to make it in 2011. Nevertheless I still dont like the changes at all.

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My stats (Im counting DLs because becomming exclusive in June might otherwise change the stats too much if I count $):

34% this year (incl. estimate till the end of the year)
32% 2009
22% 2008 (took a deep hit in best match by that time of the year)
46% 2007 (my first year - and even then I didnt manage to get to 50% although I had almost 0 sales in Jan and Feb)

If they dont revisit the goals, Ill miss mine by around 11% and get a huge paycut.

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Im loving it!!!

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If I don't make a cent on my photos during this little adventure, that's ok with me. The thought of complete strangers looking at and buying my photos sounds thrilling, so I want to try it.

I also want to learn and grow as a photographer, and take even better pictures. This method seems like a good way to do it, since it really seems flexible time wise.

Then you should join flickr, or another website when people comment on each other's images.  Licensing stock imagery is a business that should be taken seriously, even more nowadays then a few years ago. 

I can only second that. It seems to get more and more popular to use microstock as some sort of photocourse. Dont get me wrong, I dont know you, and I dont know your images either, so please see these lines as some sort of general statement.

I have been an inspector at an agency quite some time ago and you wouldnt believe your eyes what images are uploaded. The word snapshot is rather farfetched for these.
So here is my advice:

  • Try to get an honest opinion (which isnt all that easy) of your friends and families whether the like your images and what could be done to improve them
  • If they like your work you could assume that youve got some talent, (which definitely not everybody has just because he/she thinks so - remember all those casting shows on TV??? Theres nothing wrong with not having talent singing, modelling or photography - you usually have some other talents and should concentrate on these to be successful) . Go and read some books on photography or take a course or something similar
  • Once you did that look at images your really like in magazines or elsewhere. Try to figure out how the images were shot (what makes it stand out, how was the light set up and which perspective did the photographer use).
  • Again ask the friends that have been honest with you from the beginning wether you have improved.
  • If you did, start uploading to the biggest agencies iStock and Shutterstock

Please be aware, that when someone takes the direct route and just uploads to an agency expecting to learn from their rejections, he will not only be much slower in his learning process. Unless he is a very very talented photographer he also exploits others. He uses the time of inspectors and therefore the time and money of the agency without paying for it (as long as you dont produce sellable images). I think nonone of us has an idea of how much it actually costs the agencies to review all those images that are just uploaded with the goal of learning from rejections. That increases the image prices in the longrun, which is good to some extent - but as long as its solely done to cover the costs for the increasing number of rejections theres no benefit for contributors. So in fact that someone does also exploit other photographers that invest a lot of time and money into the business venture microstock (btw: people submitting just for learning also slow down the approval process). Most of them are more than willing to share their knowlodge in other fields, writing blogs and helping in forums, so please value their help.

OK, thats my 2 cents - once again this is not adressed to anybody personally, just a general statement - here I stand waiting for the first stone to be thrown.

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General - Stock Video / Re: Motion in Stock
« on: November 28, 2009, 16:04 »
Haha, youre very welcome. Dont speak that out too loud though!!!

People should be much more greatful, especially in areas where we live - so I bet its a very nice holiday.

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General - Stock Video / Re: Motion in Stock
« on: November 27, 2009, 00:44 »
Hi Jonathan,
thanks for the input! No thanksgiving here in Austria ;-). But have a nice holiday over there - even though it seems too late now.

Cheers,
Wolfgang

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General - Stock Video / Re: Motion in Stock
« on: November 26, 2009, 02:41 »
Wow, these are some awesome shots, great work.

In regard to the 1D Mk 4 - where would you see the advantages for video compared to the 5d Mk II? I understand the ISO and frame rates, any other advantages you see?

Thanks for sharing!

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OK, just read this post and deleted all my video files in the transfer queue. It seemed crazy enough that they only accepted images below 300MB, but now they finally show that they dont have a clue about the footage market.

Too bad, fotolia!

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General Macrostock / Re: Accepted at Getty
« on: March 23, 2009, 11:19 »
Hey there,
just found this thread - sorry for being late. I did send my first test submission to getty on Feb. 10th and didnt yet receive a reply.
How long did you have to wait for an answer from getty?

Thanks,
Wolfgang

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