Maybe pulling out all of our images would be a hard pill to swallow, however, what about if we could all stop submitting instead.....while other agencies get new images..

It was mostly in jest, but the explanation was interesting. I never knew there were so many other Nescos.

So what do you cook in a Cyber Nesco? 

Here's the one you missed. The cooker company is originally from Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Those electric pans are all over the place. Like Kleenex, people here, throw something the the Nesco to keep it warm, or for serving or before their were slow cookers, it was done in a big old Nesco.

So there's the joke, in case it was too obscure.

The NESCO� Roaster first made it's debut in the early 1930's, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, manufactured by the National Enameling and Stamping Company (NESCO�). They were a longtime manufacturer of pots and pans, buckets, and other cooking and farm accessories in the growing agricultural state. It was about that time that a couple of their engineers were experimenting with electricity, as it was now available in Milwaukee. They took some wire, wrapped it around one of their double-boilers, plugged it in, and it got hot. An idea was born.

Nice going Denis. First one is IS, next your personal site, down the list is this thread.

May I ask is that you in the investment forum messages that pop up with your name? Is this you, or the place you asked about?  cybernesco.com: The Leading Cyber NESCO Site on the Net it's Cy Bernes Co which oddly spells the same thing when crunched together.

As well, I find the "National Enameling and Stamping Company" story very interesting. Thanks for sharing the story.  And yes I do participate in some of those investment forums.  Regarding cybernesco.com, it seems that for a short period of time, someone else had registered cybernesco.com for their own purpose, but somehow, maybe a year later, never renewed their registration. Although the name "cybernesco" could be a catchy name, Google has it tied up to over a million links leading to photography stuff of mine, therefore, this could be detrimental to anyone wanting to use it for something else. But even in photography, I guess that not too many would want to use a domain name that mostly lead to someone else, therefore, I guess, I am probably the only one that can use it.

Regarding the question of what can I cook in a Cyber Nesco?  How about an image out of this world:

Be friendly with earth

had a look on google adwords keyword tool

Keyword cybernesco
Competition Low
Global Monthly Searches  46

Thanks Phil..I did not know there was such a tool, I am so used to rely on Google analytics that I forgot about other tools out there. I did check it out and it is an average of 46 searches per month over a period of the last 12 months.Therefore, being an average, the number of searches could be greater now than it was a year ago. This number is just about what I expected. Although this is not mind blowing, to me that number is far more valuable than a 1000 visitors randomly landing on a site. It is something to build on.

Search results in Google don't really have any relation to how many people are searching for that term, it is just a show of how many web pages have that term on them.  Not saying it isn't wise to put cybernesco.com to use, just saying that a search result of 10,000 or 1,000,000,000 makes no difference in terms of market interest.  In terms of competition however, a lower search result would be better.

If you do put something on that domain it should rank pretty easily for that search - if there are indeed people searching for that term in the first place.

I agree that search results don't have any relation to how many people are searching for that term and it is a show of how many web pages that have that term, however, in most of those webpages, that term represent me as a microstock photographer. What I mean is, according to google analytics, I know that my site denispepin.com get visitors from people that have specifically search my name denis pepin probably because they have seen my name on microstock sites. Therefore, if they are people searching for denis pepin, could there be people searching for cybernesco as well? I probably will not know that, until I set up a site and check google analytics.

In term of competition, if I get a site named cybernesco.com and someone search cybernesco, cybernesco.com would come first among million results because google puts a priority on the domain name before anything else.  I think it looks better to be first among a million results than first among a few. 

Tyler, thanks for your response, I appreciate your time,

Denis

Interestingly and surprisingly to me, if you google my username "cybernesco" you will get over 1,250,000 hits.  With google.ca, the odd times it falls back to 160,000 hits, but less so with google.com.

Most of all links seem to be related to my photos and a minority to discussions I had in various forums. In 1999, I did coin the word, cybernesco, for the creation of a small personal website cybernesco.com. After a few months, in 2000, I got bored, deactivated the site and let the name registration expired. 

It is only in 2005, that I started to use that word again not for a site but as my username for all photo sites and forums. Recently, I noticed that by googling "cybernesco" I'll get over a million hits. Upon this discovery, I decided to try and register the domain name again so that maybe its popularity could be used for something.  Godaddy had the name listed as a premium name and wanted $250. Maybe it was registered by other sites before but was not too useful due to its attachment to photography and me.

I though about paying the $250, until I saw a deal with AEIOU.com.  By buying their cheap hosting service for a year for $119., they were giving a premium domain name hosted by Godaddy.. So I went that route and got the name registered. Now, I am trying to figure out what to do with it. I already have my microstock site selling photos at denispepin.com which I already spent money and time to get going.

Maybe, cybernesco.com could be something as simple as some of my thoughts about photography followed by links of independent websites among some of us. Could the popularity of the name be sufficient to get traffic and use the site as a hub for independent websites?

Maybe I am all wrong about this?  Maybe a million hits on a coined word nowadays mean nothing? Tell me what you think?

Great drumming Danny!!

I listen to my own music as well

https://soundcloud.com/cybernesco/just-for-you

Denis

There has been a big change, but are we sure the change they indicated has started?
On every search I've tried, just having two words, not a search phrase, (e.g girl toy) brings all the new 0dl files to the top.
That particular search (girl toy) in my geographical, non-buyer profile has:
9 0dl Agency files, 7 of these from Images_Bazaar
1 video
1 vector
3 0dl Agency files, 2 from Images_bazaar
The next 34 after that are dominated by 0dl Vetta raster illustration images from CSA_Images, most of which are 'fashion dolls' (no girl, unless you count the doll as a girl).
(NB, that's a search I have no personal interest in, but it's more 'general' than my usual personal interest searches)
http://www.lizworld.com/BeM.jpg
That's exactly what people were reporting before.
Do other people's current results look like this?

Could it be because changes take a little while to propagate throughout the net?

I have many fruits and veggies arrangements shots.  None are shallow DOF. It has worked well for me.  After a while you naturally develop your own style.

Denis

This is amazing to see the worldwide interest in microstock and in this site. Thank you Leaf for maintaining this site and letting us put up our site links in our signature.

With statcounter analytics help, I have put up a list of locations of some of the visitors that came from microstockgroup.com to visit my site since I replied to this thread on Dec 05. This is interesting to see how wide spread it is. As per following some of you reading this may recognized yourself:

Belgrade,Serbia
Vancouver, Canada
Puyallup, Washington, US
Birmingham, UK
Vouneuil-Sous-Biard, France
Szczepanow, Poland,
Dungannow, UK
Huntersville, NC, US
Istanbul, Turkey
Shanghai, China
Bucharest, Romania
Birkerod, Denmark
Sacramento, CA, US
Moscow, Russia
Katowice, Poland,
Anjou, QC, Canada
Hong Kong
London, UK
Castleford, UK

Denis

 

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I was looking for ways to defend myself when put in the situation that I was in but now I will just run like hell   

No youre op was perfectly in order. Just that you get some people and all they have done is 5 or 6 years in micro, nothing else and they will defend this industry even if they earnt zero money to the very death, simply because they dont know any other form of photography outside micro, walking around with blinkers really.

It does not matter if someone has only 6 years or 1 year in micro for that matter.  Stock Photography wether it is micro or RM are forms of art of their own. Most people will understand the technical aspect of photography within a month. However, the art you get out of it, is not something you can teach. It is either you naturally become to be knowledgable in your art or you don't. Some people will never get it, others will be good at it and the few will be brilliant. It is the way how art works wether it is music, drawing or photography.

Isnt it quite obvious that the people who started their photography in micro and nothing else, the very second you even mention a world outside micro, well? you see what happend some posts further up. I mean its catastrophy, all hell breaks out.

You indicated your disdain of micro by saying "some people and all they have done is 5 or 6 years in micro".

Therefore on the contrary to most microstockers, it is the other way around. Your sentence should therefore read this way:

Isnt it quite obvious that the people who started their photography in RM , the very second you even mention the micro world, well? you see what happend some posts further up. I mean its catastrophy, all hell breaks out.

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Alln stock photography is a commercial cogwheel, nothing else and its as far from art as it can be.

I disagree, it is an art on its own, I agree that it is a generic form of art but still art.  What I mean as an example, after a session shooting a model.  For each scenario, I may have 40-50 technically perfect shots, to choose from for which I will choose the best one based on the model posture, her/his smile, the appeal and how the image best represent the scenario I want to promote. And that is an art. How to recognise the best posture for a given scenario is an art. How to put an arrangement of fruits and vegetables together is an art. How to photograph wildlife is an art. How to recognise the best posture of an animal is an art.  Regardless if an object is isolated or not, its placement still matter and is an art.

Well it seems we are approaching a stage where everything is called ART and therefore, ofcourse, nothing is art.

Ultimately, what is appealing, is in the eye of the beholder and it is up to the image creator to create something that is appealing to as many prospective buyers as possible.  What make an image more appealing than another similar one, is by how much the image clearly represent the wanted scenario. As human, It is the inexplicable natural appeal that we have for certain shapes, forms and placement that makes it art.  If you have an appeal for something (other than sex and hunger) that you cannot explain technically, than it is art.

Quote from: tab62 on November 19, 2012, 12:34

I was looking for ways to defend myself when put in the situation that I was in but now I will just run like hell   

No youre op was perfectly in order. Just that you get some people and all they have done is 5 or 6 years in micro, nothing else and they will defend this industry even if they earnt zero money to the very death, simply because they dont know any other form of photography outside micro, walking around with blinkers really.

It does not matter if someone has only 6 years or 1 year in micro for that matter.  Stock Photography wether it is micro or RM are forms of art of their own. Most people will understand the technical aspect of photography within a month. However, the art you get out of it, is not something you can teach. It is either you naturally become to be knowledgable in your art or you don't. Some people will never get it, others will be good at it and the few will be brilliant. It is the way how art works wether it is music, drawing or photography.