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Messages - Roger Mitsom

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Apparently $.10 is the new $1.00

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As far as the post for contributors let me translate: "Deal with it. In the meantime if you'd like to let some steam off send us an email. We have a variety of prefab responses that might make you feel like we are listening. Although conveniently current technology doesn't require a human to actually read your drivel."

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Photography Equipment / Re: best paint for photo studio ?
« on: May 20, 2020, 21:08 »
White

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iStockPhoto.com / Getty/ Istock views vs sales?
« on: May 18, 2020, 20:48 »
I've been with istock for about 6 weeks now. I'm noticing on the app that I have a number of views but the app (iphone) shows zero sales. I've also seen on here that they are behind on sales numbers/ take a month or more to display.

I've dowloaded the deepmeta software for my laptop recently out of curiosity and I see that it also shows no sales.

My question is, might I have sales that haven't posted yet? Just seems weird I have like 50 "views" on the app but no sales. What is a "view"? Someone clicks on your image for further scrutiny? Also what is a board? it shows a few images have been on "boards" but again no sales registered.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: New to stock, made my first sale
« on: May 18, 2020, 20:25 »
I'm going to try shooting original content just for stock from here out and consider it another wing of my business ( I shoot advertising and corporate events ). I know financial prospects aren't high but the plan is when I have free days ( which are endless currently )

My two cents:

1) Search for simple concepts like sick, education, moving, business, office, work, energy, shopping, etc, and look for what sells at the micro stock sites -- sales volume is the biggest factor that affects the stock sites ranking algorithm. So pay attention to the first few pages of results.

2) If you have the time to dig a bit deeper, use Google reverse image search (with Chrome, right click on an image, and click "Search Google for image") to find out how the image is used. Once you have an understanding on how an image is used, then you can start from there and develop your style that possibly outdo the original photos.

3) Take photos of objects that you have an unfair advantage on. By that I mean the city you live in, event locations you have access to, etc. While other photographers may have already uploaded photos of your city, you have an unfair advantage on when you take the photo. In fact, you can capture photos with the right time, mood, season, etc.

4) Lastly, you may also want to upload editorial photos? Consider uploading photos of hot companies (Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, etc).

I think $500 a month can be achieved (especially when the economy gets back to normal). If you focus on creating highly sellable images instead of simply by volume, you can get there way faster with a lower number of photos than others have suggested.

Great advice. Thank you! I'm getting at least a sale each day now which is encouraging. The other day on AS I had 6. At this point they are easily my favorite in terms of sales/ rate.

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Never mind folks. I see on their site now they only allow Getty releases. Kinda ridiculous.


Not true. They allow generic releases. I use Yuri Arcurs's generic version and I upload to iStock. Never ever had a problem.
http://arcurs.com/2008/05/what-is-a-model-release/


Aha! Got it. Thank you.

Right you just can't have other agency data on the release. A generic release will work and so will a SS release if you take off the parts about Shutterstock and the New York address and all that. Yes it's legal to alter the boilerplate of a release, if the model and legal data is not changed. A contract is a contract.

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Never mind folks. I see on their site now they only allow Getty releases. Kinda ridiculous.

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I've been only at stock photography for a month or so although I've been a photographer for 20 years. Recently submitted some family images to istock of a mother, father and two kids in their back yard. I used Shutterstock model releases. Submitted the images and now finally they've been reviewed and all rejected.  Reason stated: No model release.

I clearly uploaded releases for all four individuals. What's the deal? Do they only accept getty releases or do I just need to resubmitted the releases for these because they were overlooked?

Thanks

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Newbie Discussion / Re: New to stock, made my first sale
« on: May 13, 2020, 18:28 »
Do you all shoot "briefs" that the agencies send recommending content they are looking for? If so do you find that shooting along their guidelines contributes to a higher percentage of sales?

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Newbie Discussion / Re: New to stock, made my first sale
« on: May 13, 2020, 18:01 »

Can someone explain the process of having keywords in the meta of jpgs as Jo Ann described? I've seen other mention this but still not quite getting it. Are you doing a batch of keywords for the image, saving in meta, then copying and pasting for each image on the various stock sites? Do you just separate by a comma?


Several ways to do this. You can add your keywords directly in Lightroom for instance. Many people use StockSubmitter for keywording and uploading. Personally, I personally use XPiks for editing my titles, descriptions and keywords because it's barebone, simple and it works. Uploading to iStock/Getty via Deepmeta is a bit more time consuming, as they have predefined keywording system, but it can also help you with suggesting keywords for other sites. And keep in mind that for AS the order of your keywords matters (first 10 have more importance in their search algorithm)

Hope this helps.

I downloaded stocksubmitter. Struck me as super clunky. I got a bunch of errors when I tried to connect to various agency accounts. Software was not intuitive. Then I read it doesn't even work with certain sites. Trying to make this process more efficient and it struck me as the opposite. Others like it?

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Newbie Discussion / Re: New to stock, made my first sale
« on: May 13, 2020, 17:57 »
Roger, first don't pay a lot of attention to most of the folks on MicrostockGroup. Seems many of the people here love to complain about the Stock business. Yes you will not get rich ,well most likely not but then never say never. Yes sells are lower than what they were 10 years ago. I still sell images every day of the year. I still get excited at 38 cents or 600 bucks per sell. Very few at 600 bucks , now and then one comes through Alamy. As long as sites send me money each month I will keep doing this until I die. Roger shoot what your think is interesting . If you find your subject interesting most likely others will too and buy it. The boot picture below I have sold over 3000 times.You just don't know what will sell.  Good luck.. Stock is Fun...W.Scott McGill

Thanks. I can see why that shot has sold so much. It's applicable to many conceptual ideas. Curious if you've changed the way you keyword it over the years?

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Newbie Discussion / Re: New to stock, made my first sale
« on: May 13, 2020, 17:50 »
If you start today in Microstock and you wanna make 500,- a month I don't think it is possible with a few hundred images you need to be in the thousands. It's not all about sale-ability it's also about search rank in the agencies and with 300 million images at Shutterstock it's very hard to get a good search rank even with very good pictures.

I've been adding new content already. Shot a coronavirus curbside testing station the other day. A family in their yard and putting on masks. A family managing their chicken coup. Industrial shapes repeating. Also shooting stuff from briefs.

A little disappointing that I have around $10 in sales so far but I don't have much else going on right now. Occasionally I'm getting images that could work for my advertising portfolio. Like the husband and wife I shot in front of their home wearing designer face masks while he held a pitchfork, a play on the classic "American Gothic". May be too conceptual for stock but I think some of my advertising clients will get a kick out of it.

Thank you everyone for the helpful advice!

Are these all released?  If not, they sound a little invasive.  Plus a "designer mask" would need a release.

Released and accepted by 3 of the 4 agencies I'm with. Exception being AS that keeps rejecting images of the husband and wife with their children because they say the minor releases aren't in order. Although all the criteria they stipulate is there as far as I can tell. Meanwhile an image of the mom putting a mask on her daughter has sold a handful of times at other agencies that accepted the same release. Who knows.

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I've only been at this for about 6 weeks or so. But so far SS is the fastest hands down. Usually next day for me. Getty/ Istock takes forever.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: New to stock, made my first sale
« on: May 11, 2020, 19:52 »
If you start today in Microstock and you wanna make 500,- a month I don't think it is possible with a few hundred images you need to be in the thousands. It's not all about sale-ability it's also about search rank in the agencies and with 300 million images at Shutterstock it's very hard to get a good search rank even with very good pictures.

I've been adding new content already. Shot a coronavirus curbside testing station the other day. A family in their yard and putting on masks. A family managing their chicken coup. Industrial shapes repeating. Also shooting stuff from briefs.

A little disappointing that I have around $10 in sales so far but I don't have much else going on right now. Occasionally I'm getting images that could work for my advertising portfolio. Like the husband and wife I shot in front of their home wearing designer face masks while he held a pitchfork, a play on the classic "American Gothic". May be too conceptual for stock but I think some of my advertising clients will get a kick out of it.

Thank you everyone for the helpful advice!

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Newbie Discussion / Re: New to stock, made my first sale
« on: May 11, 2020, 19:42 »
Picked a heck of a time to start! :) It's probably not surprising given the economic disruption, but I see overall sales volume way down at the moment, so don't interpret slow sales as a reflection on your work specifically as it's not "normal" right now.

I would offer a couple of thoughts (and I'll put the one I think you should most pay attention to up top in case you want to have only one suggestion per contributor :) )

-Pay attention to keywording. If you've been a photographer for a while, I'll assume you haven't had to think about that, but if your images don't show up in searches, you won't sell, regardless of how great they are. Take your image's subject and do some searches on Adobe Stock and Shutterstock. When you see something similar to yours, look at the keywords the other images used and make sure you've covered all the bases. If you have photos of places, make sure neighborhood, city, state and region are there; for people, ethnicities, ages & gender and so on.

-If you're not good at cloning, stay away from anything with logos or brand names. No art on the walls or statues. No numbers on ship sails or license plates. If you do editorial, that doesn't apply obviously, but editorial typically doesn't sell in the volumes that commercial work does

-I assume you're used to editing your images before submitting them (given you shoot advertising) but look over your images at 100%; even though reviewing has become pretty terrible at some sites, rejections for noise or sensor spots or other technical flaws can be unexpected for photographers new to stock.

-Don't overlook boring but useful subjects. Stock is about useful images, not just a pretty face in front of a camera.

-You can chase trends, but those images age much more quickly - fashion, technology, food fads. Images can and do continue to sell for years if they are free of any obviously dated stuff

-I'm assuming you're already doing this, but make sure your keywords (and titles & descriptions) are in the JPEGs you upload. If not, they should be - not only to save you time now, but also to make life easier when a new agency comes along a year or two down the road and your portfolio's ready to go.

Oh, and congratulations on your first sale!

Thank you Jo Ann. Most of this I either assumed or am getting accustomed to. One thing I really need to work on is workflow with keywording. It's taking me a LOT of time. Right now I'm with 4 agencies and basically redoing keywording for each image for each agency. It's one of the areas I realize I need to be saving a lot more time with.

Can someone explain the process of having keywords in the meta of jpgs as Jo Ann described? I've seen other mention this but still not quite getting it. Are you doing a batch of keywords for the image, saving in meta, then copying and pasting for each image on the various stock sites? Do you just separate by a comma?

Also, from what I've seen on here most people use Lightroom for their workflow. I use CaptureOne but I'm sure I can figure it out on there. Just not used to incorporating meta outside of the camera settings.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: New to stock, made my first sale
« on: May 11, 2020, 19:32 »
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I shoot advertising and corporate events

Hm!? some possible commercial content already in hard drives?
Or a possibility to shoot now-on regular work and for stock in between a job?



Drink shots, people toasting (hands only), locations from different travel jobs, food, you name it. I deliver these images to clients and then after that they just sit on my hard drive. May as well put them to work. I own them.

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Newbie Discussion / New to stock, made my first sale
« on: April 24, 2020, 19:59 »
AS for .99

Two weeks in. Seems the time for review is taking a while now. I've been a professional photographer since 2000 so a lot of this is going through old hard drives. I've got about 200 images up on 5 sites. I'm going to try shooting original content just for stock from here out and consider it another wing of my business ( I shoot advertising and corporate events ). I know financial prospects aren't high but the plan is when I have free days ( which are endless currently ) I'm going to go out and shoot specifically for stock based on some of the concepts or timely images that are in demand. If in a year or so it can be like $500/ month I'd be happy. Is that unrealistic?

Stock photo pros, if you could tell a newbie one lesson what would it be? And please don't say don't bother lol

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Have you gone back to the original raw files and processed them again? You may have processed files smaller in resolution than the maximum, and current software would net you a better result in either case. If you shot jpg then it is what it is.

Otherwise what you're likely getting rejected for is grain at 100% which seems to be what the algos are looking for. Not much you can do that would be worth the time. But you could try to soften all around the subject then do a noise reduction/ sharpening on the subject itself. Again, not worth the time for a few dollars.


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hi what is the cheapest place to buy single image without suscription ? Thank you

Hi gang. New to this site and stock photography having been a professional photographer since 2000. But researching agencies to go with I looked at depositphotos and moved on when I saw they had images that were literally free. I couldn't believe it so just to see I downloaded one. A food pic. Sure enough. I may have created a login but I certainly hadn't bought a package.

Suffice it to say I moved on.

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Illustration - General / Re: regarding Behance
« on: April 18, 2020, 19:00 »
I've been on Behance for years. It's very advertising oriented, collaboration oriented. Some really great imagery. It's basically a peer network of photographers and hopefully some buyers take notice. You can out whatever you want on it. There is no review process.

Mine comes with my APA membership. So I don't know about how long it's free.

I don't go on there much lately but for me what I like is just seeing the amazing work people create. You can follow certain photographers, etc... and see what they are up to.

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Newbie Discussion / Re: Shutter stock rejections arrgghh
« on: April 18, 2020, 18:43 »
I saw someone on here say that they submitted a beach scene and it got rejected for grain. They suspected it was the sand.

SS uses algos and they are too literal. I think in absence of being able to select images based on dynamic composition and interest due to just not enough eyes available, they algo them based on technical notions. It's really too bad because seems you wind up with a lot of technically sound garbage vs crafted imagery. 

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