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« on: March 20, 2015, 13:45 »
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Symbiostock was created to allow independent artists to run their own photography websites while forming a network to cooperate in searches. The Symbiostock Global Network expanded this concept by searching images from all Symbiostock sites This is a free service available to all Symbiostock sites. Now we can also include images from non-independent artists who share the Symbiosdtock goal but maintain their images on non-Symbiostock sites. This requires an extra step in collecting an integrating data from multiple platforms. 

A $25 registration fee adds your site to the global database and indexes your images and keywords. Those images will appear in searches, and will display a thumbnail of your image. When searchers click on your image they go directly to your site. You retain full control on pricing and licensing, and, of course, retain 100% of any sales. When processed, your images will remain in the global network for at least 1 year, or until you request their removal, or your site is no longer functional.

We can currently accept Photodeck based sites, and will be adding other platforms as requests are received.
 
Most sites will need to be updated to reflect new images added, and update or delete older images.  Updates are available in several ways:
+$15 for a one time update
+$30 annual fee for quarterly updates
+$60 annual fee for monthly updates

Updates are processed around the 5th of each month.

Until Jun 30, 2015, artists can join for the reduced fee of $70 for setup and 1 year of monthly updates - an $85 value

Contact us by PM to get started


« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2015, 17:19 »
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Cooperation started.
I would like to add that site of photographer itself does not need to be updated.
We will need metadata backups in any format or site maps or both or nothing, in some cases we will create another type of profile. All depends from platform which hosts site of photographer.
Example of already integrated website you can see searching for example "Belgium" at http://cascoly.com/symbio/symbiostock-network.asp  Search will return images with watermark "artnethouse". Click on link below image thumbnail, and you will be redirected to image details page on artnethouse.photodeck.com. This is how looks like final result for now. Many plans are waiting implementation in future.
Who is interested please pm.
All applications for subscription and payments will be done by cascoly. Our company will handle integration part and related communications.
For many it is finish of headache with uploading of images to multiple sites and repeated attributing.
« Last Edit: March 20, 2015, 17:21 by skyfish »

« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2015, 18:17 »
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Is this the search page? How much hourly traffic is it generating for that price? How many searches ?

« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2015, 19:00 »
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Is this the search page? How much hourly traffic is it generating for that price? How many searches ?


there are several thousand searches per day - a lot of it search engines that then use the results indirectly(eg, google will search a keyword, then index the resulting generated page)

the symbiostock only version was & will remain free; it requires my attention to ensure sites are active, etc;  if there's enough interest, there are further steps that could be automated, reducing the price

« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2015, 20:15 »
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Is this the search page?


I thought this was the SYS search page:

http://symbiostock.info/index.php

« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2015, 21:11 »
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Is this the search page?


I thought this was the SYS search page:

http://symbiostock.info/index.php


there are 2 global searches

that one is ajotte's

mine is at http://cascoly.com/symbiostock-network.asp

« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2015, 21:25 »
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Is this the search page?


I thought this was the SYS search page:

http://symbiostock.info/index.php


there are 2 global searches

that one is ajotte's

mine is at http://cascoly.com/symbiostock-network.asp


Doesn't Work:

Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80004005'

[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Could not use '(unknown)'; file already in use.

/symbio/i-list-func.asp, line 234

« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2015, 02:16 »
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Just tried. It works.
Probably Steve is doing something on his site.  Noted that from iPhone result of search was coming 2 times more quickly.

« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2015, 03:21 »
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1. Steve, I tried it it with your search. It worked but it took a long time.

2. Ajotte's search. Much quicker to return search results, but for some reason, my symbiostock site (advantica.com/stockphotos) is not showing up in ajotte's list and search. How do I request to be included in that list and search?

« Last Edit: March 21, 2015, 03:28 by LesPalenik »

« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2015, 03:40 »
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Knowing that there is a good potential for integration, i am sure Steve will optimize search engine work and appearance of the site.  Did you try to contact Ajotte? From copyright line he is Andrzej Tokarski, http://ajotte.com
His contact page http://ajotte.com/contact/?r=ajotte.com
« Last Edit: March 21, 2015, 03:45 by skyfish »

« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2015, 04:01 »
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Thanks for finding Andrzej's contact page, I sent him an email.

« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2015, 15:25 »
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First FAQ for integration service published on http://artnethouse.photodeck.com/symbiostock-integration
We continue to extend it to cover all necessary information

« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2015, 15:53 »
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It isn't working at all for me. I did a test search and was surprised to see only 7 results - I guess this search doesn't include existing Symbiostock sites? - and it gave an error anyway. It was very slow (the error took a while to happen) and the page is not pleasing to look at. Is the idea that buyers will use this search or only that it will make included sites more visible to Google?

I'd get the site working before asking people to take a look, especially as it isn't a free service

Searching for Keyword TROPICAL BEACH
7 images found
time2= 57067.93

x=121 ok=True n=0 maxrec=200
Objrs.eof False
x=121 ok=True n=0 maxrec=200
Objrs.eof False
n=0 0 200
ADODB.Recordset error '800a0cc1'

Item cannot be found in the collection corresponding to the requested name or ordinal.

/symbio/i-list-rec.asp, line 278

« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2015, 15:55 »
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[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Could not use '(unknown)'; file already in use.

Surely it's not running on Access ?

Can Access even cope with 2 users searching at the same time ?

« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2015, 16:53 »
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As i understood, Steve is currently doing something on his site.
Bunhill: please make difference between desktop and web server placed Access database. Concurrency restrictions can be bypassed exactly because the database is on server. For now after optimization Access capacity will be enough to give time to migrate to something more poweful.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2015, 16:58 by skyfish »

« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2015, 17:36 »
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Bunhill: please make difference between desktop and web server placed Access database. Concurrency restrictions can be bypassed exactly because the database is on server. For now after optimization Access capacity will be enough to give time to migrate to something more poweful.

No. Access is simply not scalable. It is a completely inappropriate solution.

Anyone who knows anything at all about databases will tell you the same.

« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2015, 17:43 »
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Google will help you.
Solution on cascoly was already existing and will be used till Steve decides to do changes on site which belongs to him.
Also received sexist messages through query string of website will not stop me. Steve is doing his work, i did already mine. Currently i have integration routines for biggest photo hosts and clear understanding that part of people will not be happy that integration solution is enough close to become usual.

« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2015, 17:46 »
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Is this the search page?


I thought this was the SYS search page:

http://symbiostock.info/index.php


there are 2 global searches

that one is ajotte's

mine is at http://cascoly.com/symbiostock-network.asp


Frankly, I didn't realize there were two search sites. Not sure why we need two.

I've always sent image-shopping friends to the one I linked to (http://symbiostock.info/index.php), and they've seemed happy with the results. The page is attractive and clean, not junked up with ads. Also, the "recently added images" feature at the top keeps it looking fresh, not to mention the subtle promotional aspect of that impressive list of affiliated sites below.

« Reply #18 on: March 21, 2015, 18:55 »
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Is this the search page?


I thought this was the SYS search page:

http://symbiostock.info/index.php


there are 2 global searches

that one is ajotte's

mine is at http://cascoly.com/symbiostock-network.asp


Frankly, I didn't realize there were two search sites. Not sure why we need two.

I've always sent image-shopping friends to the one I linked to (http://symbiostock.info/index.php), and they've seemed happy with the results. The page is attractive and clean, not junked up with ads. Also, the "recently added images" feature at the top keeps it looking fresh, not to mention the subtle promotional aspect of that impressive list of affiliated sites below.


ajt's is just an image search, while my site gives more information about sites, shows networking partners, promoted keywords, keyword analysis, etc

the site has been working for the last 2 years, and worked fine when we tested it earlier with the new sites.  then something went awry, giving those error messages --- everything's working fine again now
« Last Edit: March 22, 2015, 02:31 by cascoly »

« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2015, 05:14 »
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Steve, great, it works! And already looks better.
I am sure it will be beautiful site finally.

« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2015, 09:51 »
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It just doesn't seem serious. It's really slow and it looks like it comes from 1995. Plus the spammy ads.

And it's built on Access which will never scale.

« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2015, 10:25 »
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You only showed your aggression to person which does something. You - do nothing good.
You emphasize that it is stack but you know nothing about the project and what is preparing. Your negative attitude will not stop Steve from what he is doing now and what he will do later.
Nobody here attacks Steve and me. Only you. Better you reread what was above.

« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2015, 11:12 »
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It's honest opinion, not aggression. Also - I know a good deal about relational databases, SQL, systems analysis etc.

FWIW I have always been very positive about the motivation behind Symbiostock - whilst being honestly skeptical about the implementation and the lack of the sort of group structures which are typically a hallmark of successful Open Source projects.

« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2015, 11:22 »
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No. You did not left place for honesty. I saw your anger just because it was not your idea. I received many offences on my site. IP addresses are different, but i will keep records.

« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2015, 13:00 »
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You only showed your aggression to person which does something. You - do nothing good.
You emphasize that it is stack but you know nothing about the project and what is preparing. Your negative attitude will not stop Steve from what he is doing now and what he will do later.
Nobody here attacks Steve and me. Only you. Better you reread what was above.


You should probably go back and read all of the threads here about the project from day 1. It is my opinion that SY has no advantages for phototgraphers, other than provide a wordpress theme for them. The networking only has advantages for a few key developing people and it is to their advantage to get as many people on board.


I dont care whether any opinion stops steve, you (whoever you are) or the others involved. I think everyone should know both sides of the truth.  ;)

« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2015, 13:24 »
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Of course i am involved! I told this from beginning. Strange, but i think you did not get all. Our company developed bridges, this is not on the side of Steve. He is doing his side. That is. Normal cooperation. Somebody is interested, somebody not - and this is with all projects.

« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2015, 16:48 »
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I'm curious who you are too. FYI for those of you looking on, (particularly those of you with symbio sites) this project has nothing to do with Leo's vision of Symbiostock. Leo is not involved and doesn't know anything about it. Cascoly's site did start out as a shoot off of Symbiostock but this new concept is entirely his along with apparently Skyfish. FWIW I really think you guys should use your own brand name for this one but I guess that is between you and Leo. Just my opinion but you could have at least given him the courtesy of asking before you started marketing a new venture under the Symbiostock name.

« Reply #27 on: March 22, 2015, 18:04 »
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I'm curious who you are too. FYI for those of you looking on, (particularly those of you with symbio sites) this project has nothing to do with Leo's vision of Symbiostock. Leo is not involved and doesn't know anything about it. Cascoly's site did start out as a shoot off of Symbiostock but this new concept is entirely his along with apparently Skyfish. FWIW I really think you guys should use your own brand name for this one but I guess that is between you and Leo. Just my opinion but you could have at least given him the courtesy of asking before you started marketing a new venture under the Symbiostock name.
first, remember that symbiostock is open source

this is just an extension of the existing search database to include non-symbiostock sites, so it doesn't affect what leo's developing.  at the same time, it continues to support and extend features  for all symbiostock sites.  leo has giving his blessing to my expanding my work with the search engine, hub & co-op sites, etc going as far as to allow me to sell licenses for the symbiostock pro & other extended plugins

i'll continue to answer questions about the service from those who are interested in using it

« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2015, 18:58 »
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Hi Steve, I get that it was supposed to be open source (didn't really turn out that way though did it) and I know Leo is grateful for all of your efforts. I'm just not seeing the connection here. It feels to me like this is something other than Symbiostock in that it really is targeting non symbio site owners. It also is involving new "partners" who Leo has never heard of, and who sound as though they are in the inner circle and speaking on behalf of Symbiostock itself. I believe this thread is quite misleading. Your enterprise here is commendable and somewhat along the lines of what Leo had in mind originally. Although I think he really would have preferred to have collaboration in the coding of the theme itself. All I am saying is that it would be better if people actually understood what you are proposing, who is responsible for it, and who in the end will be benefitting/profiting from it.

Maybe you can clear things up for me. Who is Skyfish? What is his/her contribution to this new endeavor and how is marketing other self hosted platforms for your personal search engine related to Symbiostock? I think the problem here is that Leo has sought to remove himself from this forum and is currently working hard on a new improved and polished version of Symbiostock. This trainwreck of a thread is doing that effort an injustice. Especially when insinuations of collusion are made indicating key developing people are benefitting from it. Since there really is only one developer, this hardly qualifies as open source, and the assumption is that Leo is somehow reaping a reward from this project is grossly misleading and massively unfair.

Lets just call this what it is... "Cascoly's search engine of self hosted microstock sites" and leave Symbiostock out of it.

« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2015, 19:37 »
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Hi Steve, I get that it was supposed to be open source (didn't really turn out that way though did it) and I know Leo is grateful for all of your efforts. I'm just not seeing the connection here. It feels to me like this is something other than Symbiostock in that it really is targeting non symbio site owners. It also is involving new "partners" who Leo has never heard of, and who sound as though they are in the inner circle and speaking on behalf of Symbiostock itself. I believe this thread is quite misleading. Your enterprise here is commendable and somewhat along the lines of what Leo had in mind originally. Although I think he really would have preferred to have collaboration in the coding of the theme itself. All I am saying is that it would be better if people actually understood what you are proposing, who is responsible for it, and who in the end will be benefitting/profiting from it.

Maybe you can clear things up for me. Who is Skyfish? What is his/her contribution to this new endeavor and how is marketing other self hosted platforms for your personal search engine related to Symbiostock? I think the problem here is that Leo has sought to remove himself from this forum and is currently working hard on a new improved and polished version of Symbiostock. This trainwreck of a thread is doing that effort an injustice. Especially when insinuations of collusion are made indicating key developing people are benefitting from it. Since there really is only one developer, this hardly qualifies as open source, and the assumption is that Leo is somehow reaping a reward from this project is grossly misleading and massively unfair.

Lets just call this what it is... "Cascoly's search engine of self hosted microstock sites" and leave Symbiostock out of it.

those conspiracy theories are from the same sad and disgruntled individual who has latched onto every symbiostock thread to beat a long dead horse - her accusations are tripe and should treated as such

the facts are simple:

the global search engine is spidered, by keyword, daily by google & other search engines - so each image seen in a search is counts as an external link to someone's site and an additional chance to be found.   site owners are welcome to use the formatting of the search results for their own use as contact sheets, galleries, etc as I've explained elsewhere. 

other independent site owners have contacted me to ask if they could somehow be included in the searches.  I didn't have the time to write the conversion routines needed.   Skyfish contacted me while I was traveling in Asia and offered to create a conversion app that would allow more independent artists to be represented in my global search of symbiostock sites. She's here on MSG and can provide further personal info if she wishes

 I  collect symbiostock datafiles automatically, (as can anyone else who's interested in using this data) so I have provided that service for free and continue to do so.  I have additional work to do to process non-sym sites, so there's a minimal cost involved.  I don't expect to break even in terms of time spent.

on one hand, it grows the global database of independent artists trying to find non-agency outlets for their work.  on the other, the vast majority of the sites are symbiostock sites, and my site still provides analysis and data that are relevant only to symbiostock sites.  when something better comes along, i'll gladly contribute....
« Last Edit: March 22, 2015, 19:43 by cascoly »

« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2015, 20:12 »
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I would have a hard time being part of this for a variety of reasons:
1) ads on the site, that's a nonstarter for me.  it does not look professional, are you licensing images or are you trying to get clicks on ads?
2) the license is not standard.  I looked at your license and it is terribly written, makes no sense, and was obviously written by you not a lawyer with any understanding of the law.  I would not want my content and my license confused with that 'license'.  A standard (and legal) license is necessary for this to be serious.
3) search results look horrible, site looks horrible.  looks like it is from the 90's, I'm waiting for the blinking pop ups and a virus

« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2015, 20:25 »
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 :)
« Last Edit: March 22, 2015, 20:57 by cathyslife »

« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2015, 09:29 »
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Steve, I have a question/concern about linking non-SYS independent sites to the SYS global search network.

On SYS, we mark our images as "green" (safe for all to see), "yellow" (iffy), and "red" (not safe for all to see). How will you handle that if you include non-SYS sites in the new search?

It seems possible, with your new promotion, that X-rated images could show up in searches made from "green only" SYS-affiliated sites. That could cause problems if a search for (say) "red-breasted nuthatch" or "tufted titmouse" originated by a young bird lover at my site turned up images of something quite different.

Is there a way to screen the non-affiliated sites to make sure that doesn't happen? Or is it now "anything goes"?

« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2015, 10:38 »
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I thought this was an official thing from the creators of Symbiostock. It would have been good to say that it it isn't and that it is your own project maybe. Just so there is no confusion. I was just thinking how good it was Leo found a way to get a bit back for all his hard work, because I know he has put way more in so far than he has got out.

« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2015, 19:02 »
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Steve, I have a question/concern about linking non-SYS independent sites to the SYS global search network.

On SYS, we mark our images as "green" (safe for all to see), "yellow" (iffy), and "red" (not safe for all to see). How will you handle that if you include non-SYS sites in the new search?

It seems possible, with your new promotion, that X-rated images could show up in searches made from "green only" SYS-affiliated sites. That could cause problems if a search for (say) "red-breasted nuthatch" or "tufted titmouse" originated by a young bird lover at my site turned up images of something quite different.

Is there a way to screen the non-affiliated sites to make sure that doesn't happen? Or is it now "anything goes"?
 

first, the rating system has always been optional -- there's no requirement for sys sites to rate their images at all, (though most do) .  otoh, I've had ZERO reports of any problems for the 2 years the global search has been running. We are asking non-sym sites to refrain from posting X-rated material, (what would be rating 3 in sym). but, again , it just hasnt been a problem to date; if it happens I'll deal with it.

basically the global search is no different than a google image search or microstock agency search where images from many sites are mixed together in results displayed.  I think users are smart enough to realize this. 

« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2015, 19:53 »
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basically the global search is no different than a google image search or microstock agency search where images from many sites are mixed together in results displayed.  I think users are smart enough to realize this.

I think you give people too much credit.

« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2015, 20:23 »
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basically the global search is no different than a google image search or microstock agency search where images from many sites are mixed together in results displayed.  I think users are smart enough to realize this.

I think you give people too much credit.

So do I.

The difference, Steve, as I see it, is that under the original SYS-network system, any site owner can tick a button to ensure that images rated "red" do not show up in a search initiated from his or her site.

And yes, that does seem to work, probably because Symbio site owners with X-rated images have an incentive to be good team players and mark those images "red."

But if you take away the Symbio context and let anybody willing to pay $25 insert their images into our search results, you do change the dynamic.

I understand that if something awkward happens, you'll "deal with it," but that might well be after an embarrassing episode hits one of us.


« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2015, 23:24 »
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basically the global search is no different than a google image search or microstock agency search where images from many sites are mixed together in results displayed.  I think users are smart enough to realize this.

I think you give people too much credit.

So do I.

The difference, Steve, as I see it, is that under the original SYS-network system, any site owner can tick a button to ensure that images rated "red" do not show up in a search initiated from his or her site.

And yes, that does seem to work, probably because Symbio site owners with X-rated images have an incentive to be good team players and mark those images "red."

But if you take away the Symbio context and let anybody willing to pay $25 insert their images into our search results, you do change the dynamic.

I understand that if something awkward happens, you'll "deal with it," but that might well be after an embarrassing episode hits one of us.

Martha, I don't think Steves project will insert any search results into your individual page unless you have listed his search engine as one of your network partners (as many have done with AJT's .info search site. 

The way I understand it is his search engine, on its own page, searches Symbiostock sites.  He is expanding that to include outside independent sites that are not based on the Symbiostock context.  It should not have any impact on what visitors see on your page.

« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2015, 01:52 »
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     Now i will summarize some information related to Symbiostock Search for independants.
Here are 2 parts of the system.
Photographers which apply on cascoly.com will then be forwarded to us.
We provide data conversion and screening. With current state of the system we can give similar to agencies security level.
But some restrictions should be followed:
Photographers which apply should not have not G-rated content in galleries/folders which they want to include in Symbiostock searches.
Photographers with specific specialization should not apply, i think they have other outlets.
Photographers which have their sites flagged by Google etc should follow related to search engines procedures and apply after clean out.
We use different methods for verification and have no intention to share technological part. We will provide maximum efforts for protection of Symbiostock Search on cascoly.com. Our system is not a website and has already several cooperating blocks.
Photographers which want to participate should agree with SymbioStock Search on cascoly.com terms and conditions and in case if the agreement is broken after acceptance, all portfolio will be excluded from searches and no refund done.
There is a time of conversion and quarantine - about 1 week before images from site of photographer will appear in search results.
In cases when data conversion for photographer site needs special efforts we will agree the procedure with the photographer.
I will update FAQ on artnethouse.photodeck.com.
With growing of this cooperation we will do reasonable efforts for promotions for participants.

« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2015, 04:08 »
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Martha, I don't think Steves project will insert any search results into your individual page unless you have listed his search engine as one of your network partners (as many have done with AJT's .info search site. 

The way I understand it is his search engine, on its own page, searches Symbiostock sites.  He is expanding that to include outside independent sites that are not based on the Symbiostock context.  It should not have any impact on what visitors see on your page.

Thanks, Karen, for that clear statement. Makes good sense.

Yes, I do have AJT's search engine as one of my network partners, but since Cascoly's search engine is not in that list, searchers on my site won't pull up the outside-the-network sites he's starting to index.

And that's fine with me. Again, I appreciate your clarification. It helps!

Semmick Photo

« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2015, 05:00 »
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I agree with Bunhill on the coding part, he knows his business, I dont see him being aggressive, he is giving some good advice. Listen to him.
I agree with Chromaco, I thought this was a Symbiostock feature, but its not
I agee wit Tickstock, the site looks horrible and nothing like Symbiostock at all. Its really outdated looking, presentation is everything. It has to be like love at first site when a buyer comes to the site. You are competing with top dogs, not with my 5 yr old nephew's blog.


My own comment, $70 dollar to be part of that seems very steep.At least you are cheaper then  PicturEngine, a failed project, which is the idea your are copying, but if you copy an idea, you have to do it better, not worse.

Just my honest opinion.

« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2015, 05:28 »
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First of all nobody copy. I first time hear about that project and googled to see that it is different.
Steve is dealing with his site and he will do necessary changes.
Also for those who wants to split searches or don't include other images in their pages - then it is just a feature request.

Semmick Photo

« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2015, 05:32 »
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First of all nobody copy. I first time hear about that project and googled to see that it is different.
Steve is dealing with his site and he will do necessary changes.
Also for those who wants to split searches or don't include other images in their pages - then it is just a feature request.

Sure its different, still based on the same idea. Nothing wrong with that, just to a better job, not worse.

Semmick Photo

« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2015, 05:35 »
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To get my some features I wanted in Symbiostock I had to pay $75 dollar.
If I want to include myself to PicturEngine, I need to pay $450 dollar.
To get on Symbiostock Global Search I need to pay $70 dollar.

That means I have to pay $595 dollar just to partake in unproven projects and get my images in front of imaginary buyers.

 :o

I thought these projects were created to make me money, not to cost me. All of a sudden, selling through micros seems more attractive now.

« Reply #44 on: March 24, 2015, 13:46 »
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  Martha, I don't think Steves project will insert any search results into your individual page unless you have listed his search engine as one of your network partners (as many have done with AJT's .info search site. 

The way I understand it is his search engine, on its own page, searches Symbiostock sites.  He is expanding that to include outside independent sites that are not based on the Symbiostock context.  It should not have any impact on what visitors see on your page.

correct - you'll never see non-sym images on any symbiostock page

actually, listing my search site page as one of your network sites won't do anything, as symbiostock can't access it directly.    instead people who list my symbiostock site http://cascoly-images/pix as a part of their network get additional prominence and features in the global network analysis pages

to see who links to whom -- http://cascoly.com/symbio/list.asp?list=61

Shelma1

« Reply #45 on: March 24, 2015, 13:52 »
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The link doesn't work. After waiting 30 seconds I gave up.

« Reply #46 on: March 24, 2015, 13:53 »
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-- sorry - dbl post


 

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