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« on: March 11, 2014, 13:05 »
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2014, 13:14 »
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the email from them below

There are better ways to sell
your photography online.
Weve always kept photographers and their work at the core of our business. We are photographers. Our friends are photographers. We believe photographs, like any art or product, have a value that should not be manipulated or diluted without the consent of their creators.

This is why Getty Images' decision to make 35 million images available for free has enfuriated photographers globally. Unexpected changes like these affect the livelihoods of thousands of photographers, many who depend on services like these to make a living.

We truly believe in the products we build because they enable photographers and artists like you to set your own standards of value. So what is the value of your work? Honestly, we don't know. And neither does Getty. So why let them decide?

Sell on your own terms and keep 100% of your earnings using our Sell Media E-Commerce plugin.

It's your work. You should be able to determine its value.

Ron

« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2014, 13:17 »
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Got the same email, deleted it, already have a Symbiostock for that.


http://semmickphoto.com/

« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2014, 13:20 »
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I tried them out a long time ago (before symbiostock) and purchased several of the add-on features.  It was buggy and I couldn't make it work properly.  That was quite a long time ago tho so maybe things are more stable now?

« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2014, 13:32 »
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I tried them out a long time ago (before symbiostock) and purchased several of the add-on features.  It was buggy and I couldn't make it work properly.  That was quite a long time ago tho so maybe things are more stable now?


Stable for me. It is bluehost i should dump. No more or less difficult to implement than SY was, or Ktools, for that matter.

« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2014, 13:49 »
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It sounds like another choice for us. GOOD! - I stick with my Symbiostock site, though.

Ron

« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2014, 13:51 »
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It sounds like another choice for us. GOOD! - I stick with my Symbiostock site, though.
Oooh dont say that, you'll be voted down !  lol :)

Ed

« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2014, 13:55 »
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I tried to integrate them with my Photoshelter site.  I couldn't even get the basic template operational from them.  They use Page.ly on the back end.  I got double billed and I couldn't really get any help from them.  I ended up getting my money back (which I appreciated) and went with a Photoshelter Beam template instead.

« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2014, 13:57 »
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It sounds like another choice for us. GOOD! - I stick with my Symbiostock site, though.
Oooh dont say that, you'll be voted down !  lol :)

Are you trying to stir up crap, Ron?  ;)

Ron

« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2014, 14:00 »
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The people voting these normal comments down are stirring up crap. You cant make a joke, or an honest comment on this forum without receiving the judgement of a few angry people.

« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2014, 14:03 »
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« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 23:41 by tickstock »

Ron

« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2014, 14:07 »
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Great, sold an EL this month and a small size, kept 96% of the sales, after PayPal fees. Its right up there with the middle tier in terms of earnings.

« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2014, 14:09 »
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« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 23:41 by tickstock »

« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2014, 14:15 »
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  The problem with self-hosted sites is the same problem with any start-up site. How do you draw buyers to your site in great numbers? That's where the top four agencies have the advantage.

« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2014, 14:16 »
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I tried to integrate them with my Photoshelter site.  I couldn't even get the basic template operational from them.  They use Page.ly on the back end.  I got double billed and I couldn't really get any help from them.  I ended up getting my money back (which I appreciated) and went with a Photoshelter Beam template instead.


I didnt use their theme template, it had hardly any back end customization features so i went the photocrati route. I am happy with the results,
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« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2014, 14:20 »
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  The problem with self-hosted sites is the same problem with any start-up site. How do you draw buyers to your site in great numbers? That's where the top four agencies have the advantage.


Yeah its a problem. Seems like if one could get a few customers who consistently buy, the 100% of the sale might make up for the lack of lots of customers and getting paid peanuts.

« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2014, 17:26 »
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My personal opinion: graphpaperpress is far worse than symbiostock.. it's not even comparable for me.. symbiostock is the most practical solution that is truly "ready" out of the box.. if you are not going to change the appearance radically,  then it's only minor tweaks with symbiostock..

Graphpaperpress was a pain in the a** when I tried it..

« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2014, 17:32 »
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I haven't been able to get interested in Symbiostock because I get the feeling the developer is backing away from the project and there's no one to pick it up.  So it may work today, but at some point in the future there could be big problems and no one to deal with them.  I realize it's working fine for some people now but I'm afraid it might ultimately turn out to be an expensive (in terms of my time) dead end.

So if there's someone offering a comparable system, maybe not as good but with an assurance of future support and development...
« Last Edit: March 11, 2014, 18:01 by stockastic »

« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2014, 18:30 »
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  The problem with self-hosted sites is the same problem with any start-up site. How do you draw buyers to your site in great numbers? That's where the top four agencies have the advantage.


correct -- that's where symbiostock has several built-in advantages

-- the networking feature automatically builds backlinks from other sites, and your images get seen on many other sites

-- symbiostock was designed to promote SEO, and you can enhance that thru several plugins.  I had a smugmug site for over 2 years and never had more than 5% of my images indexed (a harder thing to do than getting your pages indexed).  With sym, I quickly got over 70% of 6000+ images indexed  (one factor is how well your images may already have been indexed thru ms agencies)

http://cascoly.com/symbio/list.asp?list=66  shows the alexa stats for sym sites -- notice the large number of sites linking in

ShadySue

  • There is a crack in everything
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2014, 18:40 »
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the email from them below

There are better ways to sell
your photography online.
Weve always kept photographers and their work at the core of our business. We are photographers. Our friends are photographers. We believe photographs, like any art or product, have a value that should not be manipulated or diluted without the consent of their creators.

This is why Getty Images' decision to make 35 million images available for free has enfuriated photographers globally. Unexpected changes like these affect the livelihoods of thousands of photographers, many who depend on services like these to make a living.

We truly believe in the products we build because they enable photographers and artists like you to set your own standards of value. So what is the value of your work? Honestly, we don't know. And neither does Getty. So why let them decide?

Sell on your own terms and keep 100% of your earnings using our Sell Media E-Commerce plugin.

It's your work. You should be able to determine its value.

Is it just a range of paid WordPress themes to which you can add an E-Commerce plugin?

« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2014, 18:49 »
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Yes, the built in community aspect is why I'm getting a symbiostock site with a little help ;).

Been thinking about it for awhile now and with all the crazy deals and uncertainty.

« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2014, 19:43 »
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I used the sellmedia plugin for a year and one of their themes. I like it at first and my test sales worked but my real sales never worked. I always had to send the zip file to the customer. I switched to symbiostock this year and so far I love it! I've had one sale and and worked! And it's a lot easier to set up for someone like me who knows very little about web stuff.

« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2014, 05:02 »
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Ron, none of your posts has got anything to do with the topic this thread... Youre just touting Symbiostock and your own site  ::)

« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2014, 06:47 »
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I license traditional stock photos from my Photoshelter site. My photos get indexed and about half my sales are from google searches, the other half are from photo editors going directly to Photoshelter's home page and searching. Most of the time the buyers call me to arrange for licensing so I am making good contacts as well.

Not a huge volume of sales but at $100-400 per photo it adds up nicely. I've considered symbio and other platforms to set up a micro site, but don't imagine the volume would make it worth the trouble.

http://www.photoshelter.com/referral/MA2CA7TC7J

stocked

« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2014, 08:00 »
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  The problem with self-hosted sites is the same problem with any start-up site. How do you draw buyers to your site in great numbers? That's where the top four agencies have the advantage.
Correct the top four have a 10 years advantage, had there been Symbiostock 10 years ago it would be a major player too! This long time advantage of the top four means you have to be patient and you shouldn't expect miracles in a half year time. But Symbiostock has many advantages so I do think guerrilla marketing and networking with other photographers together with the perfect SEO implantation in the Symbiostock theme will succeed.
One should think of unique selling points, like a specific market niche maybe your specialized in food photography or you can offer specific images of your living area etc. to make it for buyers more attractive.


 

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