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Microstock Photography Forum - General => Selling Stock Direct => Topic started by: gejam on October 21, 2011, 05:48

Title: Sell through Flickr
Post by: gejam on October 21, 2011, 05:48
Would it be legal to put up all your stock photos on Flickr with a watermark - and then wait for prospective customers to contact you? If you dont put any licensing text on their or instructions? Or would it even be okay to write for licensing contact [email protected] ? Quite a lot of people sell through flickr so that might be an idea? Getty is not an option..
Title: Re: Sell through Flickr
Post by: PeterChigmaroff on October 21, 2011, 13:58
and then wait for prospective customers

...and wait, and waait, annnd waaaaaait, annnnnd....
Title: Re: Sell through Flickr
Post by: madelaide on October 21, 2011, 16:15
I think that advertising your images is against Flickr's rules.
Title: Re: Sell through Flickr
Post by: cardmaverick on October 21, 2011, 17:07
I think that advertising your images is against Flickr's rules.

Its not. If you look into the fine print, they are cool with you linking to direct sales sites for prints, etc.. of your images. BUT. All microstock agencies are blocked - if you make a hyperlink to any, it won't work.... I'd suggest taking advantage of the getty flickr collection. I got accepted and its pretty good, I know a few people on flickr are making sizable incomes off it, but it takes TIME. Trad stock always takes TIME. Lots of it.... I kinda hate that.
Title: Re: Sell through Flickr
Post by: gejam on October 22, 2011, 02:29
Well Im already IN the Getty Flickr collection but I'm not fond of it.. I just had a 100 pound sale from a guy who found my photos on Flickr which is why I thought about expanding that option..
Title: Re: Sell through Flickr
Post by: gejam on October 22, 2011, 02:53
cardmaverick: would you mind sending a link to the terms and conditions that you referred to in your reply?
Title: Re: Sell through Flickr
Post by: madelaide on October 22, 2011, 13:24
What I see is in disagreement with cardmaverick's post.

http://www.flickr.com/guidelines.gne (http://www.flickr.com/guidelines.gne)

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Don’t use Flickr to sell.
If we find you engaging in commercial activity, we will warn you or delete your account. Some examples include selling products, services, or yourself through your photostream or in a group, using your account solely as a product catalog, or linking to commercial sites in your photostream.
Title: Re: Sell through Flickr
Post by: cardmaverick on October 22, 2011, 17:34
What I see is in disagreement with cardmaverick's post.

[url]http://www.flickr.com/guidelines.gne[/url] ([url]http://www.flickr.com/guidelines.gne[/url])

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Don’t use Flickr to sell.
If we find you engaging in commercial activity, we will warn you or delete your account. Some examples include selling products, services, or yourself through your photostream or in a group, using your account solely as a product catalog, or linking to commercial sites in your photostream.



Thats new to me... When I signed up PRIOR to Flickr getting into bed with Getty, they said linking to sites to sell prints was just peachy... Must be the Getty connection. I guess my best advice is this: be discrete, and think outside the box.
Title: Re: Sell through Flickr
Post by: cardmaverick on October 22, 2011, 17:36
BTW - take the guidelines with a grain of salt... You are still allowed to link to your own website in your freaking profile! These guidelines are to try and keep flickr from being overrun by people using it for hosting website images, etc...
Title: Re: Sell through Flickr
Post by: FD on October 23, 2011, 20:05
Would it be legal to put up all your stock photos on Flickr with a watermark - and then wait for prospective customers to contact you?
My paying Flickr membership was canceled without any explanation (except a reference to the TOS) a few years ago by just doing that.
Title: Re: Sell through Flickr
Post by: cardmaverick on October 23, 2011, 23:30
Would it be legal to put up all your stock photos on Flickr with a watermark - and then wait for prospective customers to contact you?
My paying Flickr membership was canceled without any explanation (except a reference to the TOS) a few years ago by just doing that.

What did your watermark look like?
Title: Re: Sell through Flickr
Post by: madelaide on October 24, 2011, 04:33
I understand that Flickr doesn't want us to advertise directly to sellers. That is, we can not say "buy this image at http:..." or "this image is available as posters at http:....". Now, if you have a link to your own website, in which there are links for agencies, that should be ok, unless (I believe) this is all your website is about.
Title: Re: Sell through Flickr
Post by: FD on October 24, 2011, 04:39
Would it be legal to put up all your stock photos on Flickr with a watermark - and then wait for prospective customers to contact you?
My paying Flickr membership was canceled without any explanation (except a reference to the TOS) a few years ago by just doing that.
What did your watermark look like?
It was a very light repeated (x,y) mark all over the image. I don't think that was the issue, but the direct link in the description to the sales page on a microstock site. According to Madelaide, that should not be possible any more. As what I read (here or elsewhere, forgot), you can still link in your profile to your site (that can contain links to your port on microstocks).
Title: Re: Sell through Flickr
Post by: cardmaverick on October 24, 2011, 05:06
Would it be legal to put up all your stock photos on Flickr with a watermark - and then wait for prospective customers to contact you?
My paying Flickr membership was canceled without any explanation (except a reference to the TOS) a few years ago by just doing that.
What did your watermark look like?
It was a very light repeated (x,y) mark all over the image. I don't think that was the issue, but the direct link in the description to the sales page on a microstock site. According to Madelaide, that should not be possible any more. As what I read (here or elsewhere, forgot), you can still link in your profile to your site (that can contain links to your port on microstocks).

Ahhh. Yeah, the links make sense. Flickr is now setup to be "self policing" when it comes to what sites you can and can't link to. All microstock sites (the major ones) are blocked by default, but smaller trad agencies are not ;) I suggest a page on your own site that has portfolio links. All in all, I still think the getty flickr collection is worth more of your time and energy.
Title: Re: Sell through Flickr
Post by: gejam on October 24, 2011, 10:04
Thanks for your input guys
Title: Re: Sell through Flickr
Post by: helix7 on October 24, 2011, 10:39
I used to put some of my stuff on Flickr and put a link in the description to purchase the image at my site or GL (if it's an image not available at my site), but Flickr yanked all of the links.

Edit: They yanked all of the agency links. The links to my site remain.
Title: Re: Sell through Flickr
Post by: madelaide on October 24, 2011, 10:57
I suggest a page on your own site that has portfolio links.
I think Attila's page was his own portal with several links to agencies, I'm not sure this would be acceptable according to their terms. It is a different story if you have a website with several things, one of them being the links to agencies were you sell your portfolio. Say, a website called "Cardmaverick photography" and pages with your bio, galleries and then one with links to where your work is for sale, that might be very acceptable.