Author Topic: What do you after you make your website to sell your pictures ??? (Read 14454 times)

ntrifunovic · « **on:** April 14, 2013, 02:05 »

Hi I made my direct stock selling site http://ntrifunovic.github.io/pictures/ using https://gumroad.com. It was much easier than I expected it will be. It took me less then half an hour to figure how everything works and I now need couple of minutes to upload and add image to my site ( most of this time is for uploading content ).

Anyone knowing little HTML (or ready to learn it) can easily make something like http://ntrifunovic.github.io/pictures/ so I guess it's easy part.

I'm not sure how I'll attract buyers
Hard part in my opining is to make sales.

Do you guys know whats the best way to lure the customers

?

I started by offering free pictures and opening dedicated twitter account @n3funovic_photo for notification about new images.

Poncke · « **Reply #1 on:** April 14, 2013, 06:06 »

Are you selling full res 9mp images for 99 cent? Thats very very cheap. In fact you get more on CanStockPhoto for such sales. You get 5 dollar royalty on CanStockPhoto, so you are undercutting yourself.

ntrifunovic · « **Reply #2 on:** April 14, 2013, 11:03 »

99 cent price is just a test to see if I can sell my images this way. My reasoning is that if I can't sell images for 99 cents I wouldn't be able to sell them at higher prices. I can always bring prices up

Also I would be happier to sell image 100 times for 99 cents rather than 10 times for 10 dollars.

cthoman · « **Reply #3 on:** April 14, 2013, 11:14 »

Quote from: ntrifunovic on April 14, 2013, 11:03

Also I would be happier to sell image 100 times for 99 cents rather than 10 times for 10 dollars.

I'm not sure I understand this statement. Why?

Realistically, you are probably more likely to have less sales, so you might want to get the most out of them.

MicrostockExp · « **Reply #4 on:** April 14, 2013, 12:15 »

Congratulations, you just discovered the world of nanostock:)

ShadySue · « **Reply #5 on:** April 14, 2013, 12:20 »

Quote from: cthoman on April 14, 2013, 11:14

Quote from: ntrifunovic on April 14, 2013, 11:03
Also I would be happier to sell image 100 times for 99 cents rather than 10 times for 10 dollars.
I'm not sure I understand this statement. Why?

x2
The more your images are 'out there', the more chances there are that they will be stolen.

enstoker · « **Reply #6 on:** April 14, 2013, 13:33 »

99c

??
You have some nice photos which are not crap, so is the price
unreasonable low.
Total personal degradation!
In your country is this called damping, agree?
Think again.

Poncke · « **Reply #7 on:** April 14, 2013, 13:47 »

How do your buyers feel if all of a sudden your images cost more? Better start higher and adjust to a lower pricing, than the other way around.

When I start selling direct, I will ask between 10-25 dollar for an image sale.

Pilens · « **Reply #8 on:** April 14, 2013, 14:24 »

Doesn't gumroad.com charge a cut of 5% + $.25 per transaction?

So 100 sales at $.99 earn you $69 and 10 sales at $10 earn you $92.50 after their cut is taken out.

I guess, I don't understand "why?" either...

MichaelJayFoto · « **Reply #9 on:** April 14, 2013, 14:36 »

Quote from: ntrifunovic on April 14, 2013, 02:05

Do you guys know whats the best way to lure the customers ?

Design the page in a way that Google indexes your images properly and shows them often for the best keywords matching the buyer search.

Buy advertising space on Google and Facebook.

Send letters to image buyers and editors.

Advertise in the magazines read by graphic designers and image editors.

I think those ideas should keep you busy for a while. They certainly work.

ntrifunovic · « **Reply #10 on:** April 14, 2013, 14:45 »

Quote from: ShadySue on April 14, 2013, 12:20

The more your images are 'out there', the more chances there are that they will be stolen.

This is interesting topic. How can somebody protect their microstock images from being stolen ( for example form site that bought them ) ? I guess it can't be stopped

Quote from: Pilens on April 14, 2013, 14:24

Doesn't gumroad.com charge a cut of 5% + $.25 per transaction?

So 100 sales at $.99 earn you $69 and 10 sales at $10 earn you $92.50 after their cut is taken out.

I guess, I don't understand "why?" either...

That's right. I think more sales would make more predictable income, which I find nice

This can also be achieved with large portfolio ...

Quote from: Poncke on April 14, 2013, 13:47

How do your buyers feel if all of a sudden your images cost more? Better start higher and adjust to a lower pricing, than the other way around.

When I start selling direct, I will ask between 10-25 dollar for an image sale.

Well photography isn't my primary job, but I try to get some profit from it or at least learn something new ( develop myself bla, bla, bla

) So that's one of the reasons I posted this topic. You are probably right about this

I'll probably do few experiments concerning pricing models over time and of course notify microstockgroup community about results

ntrifunovic · « **Reply #11 on:** April 14, 2013, 14:56 »

Also I had an idea, but I don't have time to realise it right now and I don't know if people will find it useful.

Idea is to make program that you point to a folder with your images and it builds static website like http://ntrifunovic.github.io/pictures/ using only metadata from images ( Title, Description, Keywords, ... )

This tool would make it very very easy for photographer to generate personal portfolio and even sell their images online ...

And building of this tool shouldn't be that hard, by the way my primary profession is software engineering

How this sounds to you all ?

ShadySue · « **Reply #12 on:** April 14, 2013, 15:58 »

Quote from: ntrifunovic on April 14, 2013, 14:45

Quote from: ShadySue on April 14, 2013, 12:20
The more your images are 'out there', the more chances there are that they will be stolen.
This is interesting topic. How can somebody protect their microstock images from being stolen ( for example form site that bought them ) ? I guess it can't be stopped

No, the RF model makes it very difficult to know whether or not an image has is being used legitimately according to its licence, but the more times it has sold, the more difficult that becomes, and your model gives ten times the chance of files being misused.

cascoly · « **Reply #13 on:** April 14, 2013, 16:07 »

Quote from: MichaelJayFoto on April 14, 2013, 14:36

Design the page in a way that Google indexes your images properly and shows them often for the best keywords matching the buyer search.

....

any suggestions on how to DO that? I've been successful ijn getting my websites indexed, but with images much less so - I've included both captions and alt-tags in image displays but not much difference

cascoly · « **Reply #14 on:** April 14, 2013, 16:23 »

Quote from: ntrifunovic on April 14, 2013, 14:56

Also I had an idea, but I don't have time to realise it right now and I don't know if people will find it useful.

Idea is to make program that you point to a folder with your images and it builds static website like http://ntrifunovic.github.io/pictures/ using only metadata from images ( Title, Description, Keywords, ... )

This tool would make it very very easy for photographer to generate personal portfolio and even sell their images online ...

And building of this tool shouldn't be that hard, by the way my primary profession is software engineering

How this sounds to you all ?

reading the meta data is the tricky part -- I've done something similar using a WP plugin that
formats an RSS from smugmug to give a wp post such as

http://www.buydigpix.com/wp/?p=231

then you can move that data to into a webpage that shows thumbnails, and IPTC info, eg http://cascoly.com/photo/civil-war.asp

(the reason for moving to a non-wp website is my main website gets more traffic than the wp one)

ntrifunovic · « **Reply #15 on:** April 15, 2013, 04:25 »

Quote from: cascoly on April 14, 2013, 16:23

reading the meta data is the tricky part -- I've done something similar using a WP plugin that
formats an RSS from smugmug to give a wp post such as

http://www.buydigpix.com/wp/?p=231

then you can move that data to into a webpage that shows thumbnails, and IPTC info, eg http://cascoly.com/photo/civil-war.asp

(the reason for moving to a non-wp website is my main website gets more traffic than the wp one)

I was thinking of reading IPTC info locally and generating entire site locally ( making static html website, my site is entirely statical and made automatically from few markdown files http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/ ).

This can be easily done with python or any other programming language as well. I've singled out python because there are lot of packages that do most of the work for you.

yuliang11 · « **Reply #16 on:** April 15, 2013, 04:43 »

At that kind of resolution and images without watermark at all , i think people will be stealing it first.

MichaelJayFoto · « **Reply #17 on:** April 15, 2013, 08:23 »

Quote from: cascoly on April 14, 2013, 16:07

any suggestions on how to DO that? I've been successful ijn getting my websites indexed, but with images much less so - I've included both captions and alt-tags in image displays but not much difference

No offense but this is one of the very few things I wouldn't want to share it with the world... if I had figured it out.

ntrifunovic · « **Reply #18 on:** April 15, 2013, 13:22 »

Quote from: yuliang11 on April 15, 2013, 04:43

At that kind of resolution and images without watermark at all , i think people will be stealing it first.

I'm going to do something about this

Thanks

cascoly · « **Reply #19 on:** April 15, 2013, 18:37 »

Quote from: ntrifunovic on April 15, 2013, 04:25

Quote from: cascoly on April 14, 2013, 16:23

reading the meta data is the tricky part -- I've done something similar using a WP plugin that
formats an RSS from smugmug to give a wp post such as

http://www.buydigpix.com/wp/?p=231

then you can move that data to into a webpage that shows thumbnails, and IPTC info, eg http://cascoly.com/photo/civil-war.asp

(the reason for moving to a non-wp website is my main website gets more traffic than the wp one)

I was thinking of reading IPTC info locally and generating entire site locally ( making static html website, my site is entirely statical and made automatically from few markdown files http://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/ ).

This can be easily done with python or any other programming language as well. I've singled out python because there are lot of packages that do most of the work for you.

right -- you still need to find/write a program that traverses your galleries/folders and reads the IPTC info into those static, local files.

once you've extracted the info there are a variety of ways to process & display it

cascoly · « **Reply #20 on:** April 15, 2013, 18:46 »

Quote from: MichaelJayFoto on April 15, 2013, 08:23

Quote from: cascoly on April 14, 2013, 16:07
any suggestions on how to DO that? I've been successful ijn getting my websites indexed, but with images much less so - I've included both captions and alt-tags in image displays but not much difference

No offense but this is one of the very few things I wouldn't want to share it with the world... if I had figured it out.

non taken, but imagine the info's already out there somewhere and wanted to see how high on my todo list it should be

Les · « **Reply #21 on:** April 16, 2013, 23:32 »

Quote

What do you after you make your website to sell your pictures ?

I would move to some warm island and wait for enough of those 99c payments to open a Tequila bar.

michealo · « **Reply #22 on:** April 17, 2013, 04:17 »

Quote from: ntrifunovic on April 14, 2013, 14:56

Also I had an idea, but I don't have time to realise it right now and I don't know if people will find it useful.

Idea is to make program that you point to a folder with your images and it builds static website like http://ntrifunovic.github.io/pictures/ using only metadata from images ( Title, Description, Keywords, ... )

This tool would make it very very easy for photographer to generate personal portfolio and even sell their images online ...

And building of this tool shouldn't be that hard, by the way my primary profession is software engineering

How this sounds to you all ?

+ host it on amazon aws

ntrifunovic · « **Reply #23 on:** April 17, 2013, 17:28 »

Quote from: michealo on April 17, 2013, 04:17

Quote from: ntrifunovic on April 14, 2013, 14:56
Also I had an idea, but I don't have time to realise it right now and I don't know if people will find it useful.

Idea is to make program that you point to a folder with your images and it builds static website like http://ntrifunovic.github.io/pictures/ using only metadata from images ( Title, Description, Keywords, ... )

This tool would make it very very easy for photographer to generate personal portfolio and even sell their images online ...

And building of this tool shouldn't be that hard, by the way my primary profession is software engineering

How this sounds to you all ?

+ host it on amazon aws

Using http://heroku.com is much easier.

You can also make entire website static. This way you can host it anywhere.

ntrifunovic · « **Reply #24 on:** May 19, 2013, 22:10 »

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