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Agency Based Discussion => Shutterstock.com => Topic started by: beketoff on October 22, 2015, 10:58

Title: $18.80 'single and other' sale
Post by: beketoff on October 22, 2015, 10:58
Hello everybody,

Earlier today I've got a sale of a single photo for $18.80 - wow, first royalty like this in four months since I started all this. However, what I'm curious about is what type of sale is this, namely, how is the final price established in this category?

From SS's dedicated page I know the royalties paid out under this category ("Single & Other Downloads: For single images, test products, and new products involving per-image sales, images will pay out starting at 20% of the sale price and increase to 25%, 28%, and 30% based on the same lifetime earnings milestones as the other Standard License downloads."). Which means that if $18.80 is 20% royalty paid to me (I'm pretty sure I'm in the lower tier now, and not in the 25%, 28% and 30% range), then the SS price for end-customer was around $100? Sounds too good to be true.

Many thanks for your input.

Title: Re: $18.80 'single and other' sale
Post by: Shelma1 on October 22, 2015, 11:22
Yup, sounds right.
Title: Re: $18.80 'single and other' sale
Post by: Dumc on October 22, 2015, 11:58
Lucky you. My SOD sales this month: 0.33$, 0.79$, 0.67$.
My previous month: 0.60$, 0.33$, 0.70$.

It's disgrace.
Title: Re: $18.80 'single and other' sale
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on October 22, 2015, 13:13
Not too good to be true - just one of their corporate customers buying a custom license.

The only bad aspect to this part of SS's business are that we don't know the license terms offered for those prices. I'm not a fan of the "trust me" model, but SS has been asked and has refused to share the license terms of these SOD sales with contributors. The $94 your customer paid could have been a bargain if they got a lot of rights in the license

At the 30% rate I've had royalties from 38 cents to $120
Title: Re: $18.80 'single and other' sale
Post by: Microstockphoto on October 22, 2015, 13:20
SS is just as sneaky as the other agencies theyre building a nice track record
Title: Re: $18.80 'single and other' sale
Post by: Pauws99 on October 22, 2015, 14:21
"I'm not a fan of the "trust me" model" nor me but i think i'd go crazy trying to work out what it sold for and what I got  :o
Title: Re: $18.80 'single and other' sale
Post by: beketoff on October 22, 2015, 15:17
Not too good to be true - just one of their corporate customers buying a custom license.

Thanks for your feedback.

Is there a place/thread where I can read more about SS's (and other microstocks in general) custom licences and how thy work, or is it completely X-files? Since in SS's plans and subscriptions there's nothing about it, as far as I remember. Seems like corporate clients can approach SS on an ad hoc basis and ask for a specific licence and negotiate for it a certain price?
Title: Re: $18.80 'single and other' sale
Post by: etudiante_rapide on October 22, 2015, 15:30
Not too good to be true - just one of their corporate customers buying a custom license.

The only bad aspect to this part of SS's business are that we don't know the license terms offered for those prices. I'm not a fan of the "trust me" model, but SS has been asked and has refused to share the license terms of these SOD sales with contributors. The $94 your customer paid could have been a bargain if they got a lot of rights in the license

At the 30% rate I've had royalties from 38 cents to $120

to be honest, 38 cts users could also be unknowingly misusing our images; for that reason, i would be less demanding to know of a customer who paid me 28 to 120 bucks commission.
at least that is a hundred times usage for a 28 cts commsiion... or 400 times usage for 120 bucks.
frankly, 28 bucks is good with me, 80 bucks is better, 120 bucks, i go celebrate and spend every penny i get on beer.
Title: Re: $18.80 'single and other' sale
Post by: wordplanet on October 23, 2015, 12:51
It would be nice to know the license too, but I was happy to see a flurry of ODD and SOD sales this month - many more than I've had in a while - ranging from 67 cents to one for $60 yesterday. It's always a nice surprise these days to see something other than subscriptions.

Glad to hear about your sale! Congrats
Title: Re: $18.80 'single and other' sale
Post by: Mumut Greenstripe on October 23, 2015, 22:55
Got $80 from SOD yesterday, am really happy
Title: Re: $18.80 'single and other' sale
Post by: Shelma1 on October 24, 2015, 07:39
I got a nice one yesterday, too. I love them.  :)