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« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2019, 11:32 »
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I can't help thinking many customers are "Taking another look" at the reality of what Shutterstock have to offer and taking their custom elsewhere. For those of us in the UK we also know the slogan is a blatant rip off of failing institution Marks and Spencer "It's not just food its M&S food".

Which was a ripoff of a ripoff of a ripoff, as in being a pretty bland generic, un-creative ad campaign, that normally low-budget customers get from ad agencies. Would not be surprised if it was done in-house.


« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2019, 11:35 »
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Boy, are buyers going to be pi$$ed when they see these ads, think they are going to a professional site, then on the first search they have to wade through thousands of crap similars. What a waste of shutterstocks money. They should have used the $ to clean up the site.

Its good if they delete the never sold content of over 5+ years. This will really refresh the library and trash all the crappy and spammy images.

The spam does not work in the "relevant" settings, and 5+ years old stuff won't show in the fresh content setting, so deleting or leaving them has nothing to do with the spam.

« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2019, 12:43 »
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I wouldn't worry about spam all that much and seemingly SS doesn't as well. In similar manner Google (and anyone else) doesn't worry about anything after page 1.

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« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2019, 13:24 »
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« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2019, 10:44 »
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by the way how is youjanuary....?


last year was my best month an so far i had more than 350 download in ss and near 120 in istock....we are at 120 in ss and 21 in stock.....everything is falling down seems.
i thought   holiday were still on till last weekend but today is still pretty slow, practically only best seller with good position sells. don't know what to thug but i had other hopes for this 2019


and in that 350 there were two 79 dollar a bunch of 44....now the max is a bunch of 2,85 the rest subs....
for me those unsplash and pixel free are simply killing this business.

« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2019, 10:53 »
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by the way how is youjanuary....?


last year was my best month an so far i had more than 350 download in ss and near 120 in istock....we are at 120 in ss and 21 in stock.....everything is falling down seems.
i thought   holiday were still on till last weekend but today is still pretty slow, practically only best seller with good position sells. don't know what to thug but i had other hopes for this 2019


and in that 350 there were two 79 dollar a bunch of 44....now the max is a bunch of 2,85 the rest subs....
for me those unsplash and pixel free are simply killing this business.
BTW why those websites exist? Like who pay for those to exist?

My January is going okay.

« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2019, 11:06 »
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by the way how is youjanuary....?


last year was my best month an so far i had more than 350 download in ss and near 120 in istock....we are at 120 in ss and 21 in stock.....everything is falling down seems.
i thought   holiday were still on till last weekend but today is still pretty slow, practically only best seller with good position sells. don't know what to thug but i had other hopes for this 2019


and in that 350 there were two 79 dollar a bunch of 44....now the max is a bunch of 2,85 the rest subs....
for me those unsplash and pixel free are simply killing this business.
BTW why those websites exist? Like who pay for those to exist?

My January is going okay.

actually i don't understand but  i didn't understand for example what's up...sold for billions with earning practically near null..

« Reply #34 on: January 15, 2019, 17:53 »
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shutterstock is a site ruined by idiots for idiots...
last example...

i am doing for a blog of food mine a series of recipes   where i start from ingredients photo every step and the final result in different angle...similar background.iif i click on one of the images of the series, despite uploaded at the same time and with similar title, the images that appears under as similar are totally ..g different images , not the other one who could have a market, no...they don't appear...i mean , is this not so idiot?
even the so criticized stock do this....stocksy do this..only this pathetic company with capped sales just to please a bit everybody who uploads cats and trees photos.
i decide not to do a composite so to force those interested in buying all images of the series and make the composite.. totally useless.


one photo series is about a dessert, very popular at the moment..under most photos there are photos, ugly mostly snapshots, of fishes cut in half on a cutboard...similar image...si..milllaaar..images?
« Last Edit: January 15, 2019, 17:56 by jonbull »

« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2019, 01:36 »
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by the way how is youjanuary....?


last year was my best month an so far i had more than 350 download in ss and near 120 in istock....we are at 120 in ss and 21 in stock.....everything is falling down seems.
i thought   holiday were still on till last weekend but today is still pretty slow, practically only best seller with good position sells. don't know what to thug but i had other hopes for this 2019


and in that 350 there were two 79 dollar a bunch of 44....now the max is a bunch of 2,85 the rest subs....
for me those unsplash and pixel free are simply killing this business.
BTW why those websites exist? Like who pay for those to exist?

My January is going okay.

actually i don't understand but  i didn't understand for example what's up...sold for billions with earning practically near null..
I assume they are funded from advertising placed on them?

« Reply #36 on: January 16, 2019, 01:45 »
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by the way how is youjanuary....?


last year was my best month an so far i had more than 350 download in ss and near 120 in istock....we are at 120 in ss and 21 in stock.....everything is falling down seems.
i thought   holiday were still on till last weekend but today is still pretty slow, practically only best seller with good position sells. don't know what to thug but i had other hopes for this 2019


and in that 350 there were two 79 dollar a bunch of 44....now the max is a bunch of 2,85 the rest subs....
for me those unsplash and pixel free are simply killing this business.
BTW why those websites exist? Like who pay for those to exist?

My January is going okay.

Well Unsplash is apparently making money from investors, 'building a new economy around photography in blockchain', probably raising more money for themselves and not caring about their community or photography.

https://medium.com/unsplash/we-just-raised-7-25-million-for-unsplash-to-build-a-new-economy-around-photography-cedc8a999239

The other ones with ads on their site I guess.

Wish these spammers with millions of similar background images and irrelevant keywords were also uploading on these free websites, that way people wouldn't be able to find anything and would stop using them.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2019, 01:59 by Not Today »

« Reply #37 on: January 16, 2019, 01:48 »
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by the way how is youjanuary....?


last year was my best month an so far i had more than 350 download in ss and near 120 in istock....we are at 120 in ss and 21 in stock.....everything is falling down seems.
i thought   holiday were still on till last weekend but today is still pretty slow, practically only best seller with good position sells. don't know what to thug but i had other hopes for this 2019


and in that 350 there were two 79 dollar a bunch of 44....now the max is a bunch of 2,85 the rest subs....
for me those unsplash and pixel free are simply killing this business.
BTW why those websites exist? Like who pay for those to exist?

My January is going okay.

Well Unsplash is apparently making money from investors, 'building a new economy around photography in blockchain', probably raising more money for themselves and not caring about their community or photography.

https://medium.com/unsplash/we-just-raised-7-25-million-for-unsplash-to-build-a-new-economy-around-photography-cedc8a999239

The other ones with ads on their site I guess.

Maybe if we start uploading millions of similar background images with irrelevant keywords on these free websites, people won't be able to find anything and will stop using them. Just an idea ;)
Still I don't understand. The ads in the other sites make sense but unsplash is ad free so how exactly...? Anyways good idea

« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2019, 04:18 »
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by the way how is youjanuary....?


last year was my best month an so far i had more than 350 download in ss and near 120 in istock....we are at 120 in ss and 21 in stock.....everything is falling down seems.
i thought   holiday were still on till last weekend but today is still pretty slow, practically only best seller with good position sells. don't know what to thug but i had other hopes for this 2019


and in that 350 there were two 79 dollar a bunch of 44....now the max is a bunch of 2,85 the rest subs....
for me those unsplash and pixel free are simply killing this business.
BTW why those websites exist? Like who pay for those to exist?

My January is going okay.

Well Unsplash is apparently making money from investors, 'building a new economy around photography in blockchain', probably raising more money for themselves and not caring about their community or photography.

https://medium.com/unsplash/we-just-raised-7-25-million-for-unsplash-to-build-a-new-economy-around-photography-cedc8a999239

The other ones with ads on their site I guess.

Maybe if we start uploading millions of similar background images with irrelevant keywords on these free websites, people won't be able to find anything and will stop using them. Just an idea ;)
Still I don't understand. The ads in the other sites make sense but unsplash is ad free so how exactly...? Anyways good idea
I wonder if the "Investors" know how they will get a return or did they just see the words "blockchain" "new  economy" and buy into the dream!

« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2019, 09:12 »
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seems like even big  micro stock factory are supporting this b...i


https://unsplash.com/@rawpixel

by the way they try to sell mages with their website

https://www.rawpixel.com/premium?sort=curated&premium=premium&page=1 
180000 images for free:==....100 per month,  what many buyer simply need...

and 

https://www.rawpixel.com/image/101176/premium-photo-aerial-view-arrangement-bakery

https://www.fotolia.com/id/165030168

they give for free even images sold in micro stock....for me this is scaring, if a big factory, the biggest probably begin giving free stuff to try to sell images is scaring...and in addiction they sell same file in micro and their website, with very big different price. t's clear they don't make enough money to support business.

240 dollar annual plan and you can download 350000 images per year all the library....is not a rush towards the bottom...worst.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2019, 09:18 by jonbull »

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« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2019, 09:27 »
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Just in case anyone thinks exposure or anything else silly like that. Rawpixel Free Image Terms:

These uses are generally OK

    Using the image (altered or unaltered) in advertising/promotional materials
    Using the image on your social media accounts/website if you are not allowing others to download the image.
    Spending time, effort and skill to make significant design changes to the image/design, so that it has become a new work, and then distributing/selling in any format/on merchandise.
    Using the image (altered or unaltered) on a product when the main value of the product is not the image, i.e. it is ok to use as a cover for a book or on product packaging.
    Using the image as an example/mock up for a template/merchandise where it is not possible for the customer to access/use the image.
    Printing the image onto canvas, a poster, or invites when it is for your own personal use.

Really?

« Reply #41 on: January 16, 2019, 09:34 »
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Just in case anyone thinks exposure or anything else silly like that. Rawpixel Free Image Terms:

These uses are generally OK

    Using the image (altered or unaltered) in advertising/promotional materials
    Using the image on your social media accounts/website if you are not allowing others to download the image.
    Spending time, effort and skill to make significant design changes to the image/design, so that it has become a new work, and then distributing/selling in any format/on merchandise.
    Using the image (altered or unaltered) on a product when the main value of the product is not the image, i.e. it is ok to use as a cover for a book or on product packaging.
    Using the image as an example/mock up for a template/merchandise where it is not possible for the customer to access/use the image.
    Printing the image onto canvas, a poster, or invites when it is for your own personal use.

Really?


these library are an invitation to this and scammers mostly from india to use their works and resell...is not a case fake accounts wth stolen images appear daily in shutterstock- and i'm cynical but don't blame at all the theft...stupid company and people deserves this..



which is the only micro stock website who gives images for free? reamstime and can stock probably and we can see how much they sell....giving free images and think this is a good strategy to find customer is the most idiot thing anybody can do.


« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2019, 09:36 »
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Just in case anyone thinks exposure or anything else silly like that. Rawpixel Free Image Terms:

These uses are generally OK

    Using the image (altered or unaltered) in advertising/promotional materials
    Using the image on your social media accounts/website if you are not allowing others to download the image.
    Spending time, effort and skill to make significant design changes to the image/design, so that it has become a new work, and then distributing/selling in any format/on merchandise.
    Using the image (altered or unaltered) on a product when the main value of the product is not the image, i.e. it is ok to use as a cover for a book or on product packaging.
    Using the image as an example/mock up for a template/merchandise where it is not possible for the customer to access/use the image.
    Printing the image onto canvas, a poster, or invites when it is for your own personal use.

Really?

but the most pathetic is 240 dollar for an unlimited library....i mean if i download all the files, i pay not even a cent per image.

« Reply #43 on: January 17, 2019, 09:05 »
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Zero quality control and similars are a big problem but lately the huge increase in fraudulent portfolios stealing others images and reselling them without any action is getting to be a big problem.

Some great examples here:-
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/96209-thieves-thread-update-week-ending-jan-13/
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/96153-what-can-i-do-to-make-shutterstock-take-copyright-infringement-seriously/

They don't appear to care that their library is filling up with low quality, similar, badly keyworded images OR that a fairly large scale theft and reupload empire is growing there too.

« Reply #44 on: January 17, 2019, 09:08 »
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Zero quality control and similars are a big problem but lately the huge increase in fraudulent portfolios stealing others images and reselling them without any action is getting to be a big problem.

Some great examples here:-
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/96209-thieves-thread-update-week-ending-jan-13/
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/96153-what-can-i-do-to-make-shutterstock-take-copyright-infringement-seriously/

They don't appear to care that their library is filling up with low quality, similar, badly keyworded images OR that a fairly large scale theft and reupload empire is growing there too.

unsplash site and other free sites are the most used photos by those thieves....is clear that from the born of those free sites everything is falling down.
personally i don't blame them....mst are indian, with a 300 400 dollar they can survive , most have internet connection, and unfortunately this is only the begin. it will be worse...still african and poor chinese don't have discovered micro stock.

« Reply #45 on: January 17, 2019, 09:15 »
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Zero quality control and similars are a big problem but lately the huge increase in fraudulent portfolios stealing others images and reselling them without any action is getting to be a big problem.

Some great examples here:-
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/96209-thieves-thread-update-week-ending-jan-13/
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/96153-what-can-i-do-to-make-shutterstock-take-copyright-infringement-seriously/

They don't appear to care that their library is filling up with low quality, similar, badly keyworded images OR that a fairly large scale theft and reupload empire is growing there too.

india, bangladesh, algeria.....as i said we have seen not even the point of an iceberg....ss is imploijg, and too we will see 3 4 million files per week mostly stolen...there is billions of poor with intent and a pc, in most country even 100 dollar makes a difference. unfortunately is clear that micro stock is in the last phase.
the only thing that can change something would be a *  terrible q4 for ss who take their stock in the garbage. but i have  zero hope at this point.

« Reply #46 on: January 17, 2019, 09:16 »
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Zero quality control and similars are a big problem but lately the huge increase in fraudulent portfolios stealing others images and reselling them without any action is getting to be a big problem.

Some great examples here:-
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/96209-thieves-thread-update-week-ending-jan-13/
https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/96153-what-can-i-do-to-make-shutterstock-take-copyright-infringement-seriously/

They don't appear to care that their library is filling up with low quality, similar, badly keyworded images OR that a fairly large scale theft and reupload empire is growing there too.

india, bangladesh, algeria.....as i said we have seen not even the point of an iceberg....ss is imploijg, and too we will see 3 4 million files per week mostly stolen...there is billions of poor with intent and a pc, in most country even 100 dollar makes a difference. unfortunately is clear that micro stock is in the last phase.
the only thing that can change something would be a *  terrible q4 for ss who take their stock in the garbage. but i have  zero hope at this point.

and ss has been added a lot of languages..so even those unskilled who doesn't know a word of english can now upload stolen images or spamming with snapshots taken by their iPhone 3.    unbelievable.   

« Reply #47 on: January 17, 2019, 11:11 »
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india, bangladesh, algeria.....as i said we have seen not even the point of an iceberg....ss is imploijg, and too we will see 3 4 million files per week mostly stolen...there is billions of poor with intent and a pc, in most country even 100 dollar makes a difference. unfortunately is clear that micro stock is in the last phase.
the only thing that can change something would be a *  terrible q4 for ss who take their stock in the garbage. but i have  zero hope at this point.

....

and ss has been added a lot of languages..so even those unskilled who doesn't know a word of english can now upload stolen images or spamming with snapshots taken by their iPhone 3.    unbelievable.


Funny you say that because your posts are not really the best examples of using correct English ;)

People from Algeria, Bangladesh or India have exactly the same rights as us, Americans or Europeans to upload and sell our work through Shutterstock.

Cheating has nothing to do with nationality. The solution is not to close the door to new talent coming from across the world, but for SS to improve their fraud detection algorithms. So focus on the real issue, stop belittling other nations,
stop acting like a Trump with his "crap-hole countries" rants and get ready to face the competition.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2019, 11:14 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #48 on: January 17, 2019, 11:28 »
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india, bangladesh, algeria.....as i said we have seen not even the point of an iceberg....ss is imploijg, and too we will see 3 4 million files per week mostly stolen...there is billions of poor with intent and a pc, in most country even 100 dollar makes a difference. unfortunately is clear that micro stock is in the last phase.
the only thing that can change something would be a *  terrible q4 for ss who take their stock in the garbage. but i have  zero hope at this point.

....

and ss has been added a lot of languages..so even those unskilled who doesn't know a word of english can now upload stolen images or spamming with snapshots taken by their iPhone 3.    unbelievable.


Funny you say that because your posts are not really the best examples of using correct English ;)

People from Algeria, Bangladesh or India have exactly the same rights as us, Americans or Europeans to upload and sell our work through Shutterstock.

Cheating has nothing to do with nationality. The solution is not to close the door to new talent coming from across the world, but for SS to improve their fraud detection algorithms. So focus on the real issue, stop belittling other nations,
stop acting like a Trump with his "crap-hole countries" rants and get ready to face the competition.


mandrio...ops zero talent...listen if 99% of cheater come from those is not racism ar trumps but reality. everybody can upload from any country. the point is most spammers and thieves come from those country. it's a fact proven. now i know you would say hat thieves are from anywhere but clearly won't be able to bring any samples...i'm not native english, and myenglish is enough believe me......i speak 4 language...how many you apart from rumenian and american?

« Reply #49 on: January 17, 2019, 11:29 »
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india, bangladesh, algeria.....as i said we have seen not even the point of an iceberg....ss is imploijg, and too we will see 3 4 million files per week mostly stolen...there is billions of poor with intent and a pc, in most country even 100 dollar makes a difference. unfortunately is clear that micro stock is in the last phase.
the only thing that can change something would be a *  terrible q4 for ss who take their stock in the garbage. but i have  zero hope at this point.

....

and ss has been added a lot of languages..so even those unskilled who doesn't know a word of english can now upload stolen images or spamming with snapshots taken by their iPhone 3.    unbelievable.


Funny you say that because your posts are not really the best examples of using correct English ;)

People from Algeria, Bangladesh or India have exactly the same rights as us, Americans or Europeans to upload and sell our work through Shutterstock.

Cheating has nothing to do with nationality. The solution is not to close the door to new talent coming from across the world, but for SS to improve their fraud detection algorithms. So focus on the real issue, stop belittling other nations,
stop acting like a Trump with his "crap-hole countries" rants and get ready to face the competition.
...
« Last Edit: January 17, 2019, 11:34 by jonbull »


 

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