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« Reply #50 on: January 17, 2019, 11:38 »
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.if 99% of cheater come from those is not racism ar trumps but reality.

Saying that 99% (made up number, of course) of cheaters come from some countries is exactly what xenophobia is about.
For you, some nations are inferior, some nations are "nations of cheaters".
A couple of months ago, you were ranting about Russia and Ukraine, now you rant about Algeria, Bangladesh and India.
FYI, racists or white-nationalists "justifications" function based on similar assumptions: that non-white races are inferior.

It's so sad that you don't even realize it!
« Last Edit: January 17, 2019, 11:44 by Zero Talent »


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« Reply #51 on: January 17, 2019, 11:44 »
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.if 99% of cheater come from those is not racism ar trumps but reality.

Saying that 99% (made up number, of course) of cheaters come from some countries is exactly what xenophobia is about.
For you some nations are inferior, some nations are "nations of cheaters".
A couple of months ago, you were ranting about Russia and Ukraine, now you rant about Algeria, Bangladesh and India.
FYI, racists or white-nationalists "justifications" function based on similar assumptions: that non-white races are inferior.

It's so sad you don't even realize it!

what a bunch of stupidity.. being an immigrant from rumen in usa make you so nervous about that theme? i travel all the world love ukraine and russsia, indian african but this don't deny th fact that most of spammers and thieves in shtterstock come from these country. and has nothing to do with politics or xenophobia...i already said find 10 20 thieves from france, or usa...i expect.

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« Reply #52 on: January 17, 2019, 11:45 »
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.if 99% of cheater come from those is not racism ar trumps but reality.

Saying that 99% (made up number, of course) of cheaters come from some countries is exactly what xenophobia is about.
For you, some nations are inferior, some nations are "nations of cheaters".
A couple of months ago, you were ranting about Russia and Ukraine, now you rant about Algeria, Bangladesh and India.
FYI, racists or white-nationalists "justifications" function based on similar assumptions: that non-white races are inferior.

It's so sad that you don't even realize it!


only in the last two days, with minimal efforts brasilnut found at least 10 15 thieves from india. why not from usa or other country?

« Reply #53 on: January 17, 2019, 11:52 »
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.if 99% of cheater come from those is not racism ar trumps but reality.

Saying that 99% (made up number, of course) of cheaters come from some countries is exactly what xenophobia is about.
For you, some nations are inferior, some nations are "nations of cheaters".
A couple of months ago, you were ranting about Russia and Ukraine, now you rant about Algeria, Bangladesh and India.
FYI, racists or white-nationalists "justifications" function based on similar assumptions: that non-white races are inferior.

It's so sad that you don't even realize it!


only in the last two days, with minimal efforts brasilnut found at least 10 15 thieves from india. why not from usa or other country?

According to your logic, because of 10 thieves 1.3 billion of Indians are also cheaters!

Nice! Xenophobia at its best!

As I said, it's so sad that you don't even realize it!

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« Reply #54 on: January 17, 2019, 11:57 »
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you are a total idiot really...we are talking about shutter stock...not india or china complete population....


here a photo that show my kukuxlan friend in soweto, famous white supremacist ghetto in africa, a place where you would be even scared to stroll inside a car,

« Reply #55 on: January 17, 2019, 12:02 »
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you are a total idiot really...we are talking about shutter stock...not india or china complete population....


We are making progress, I see! You just confirmed what I said: it's a Shutterstock problem, not a nationality problem.
But since you wear your xenophobic glasses, you see nations.

PS. So it's not just Russia, Ukraine, Algeria, India and Bangladesh. I see it's also China, now! Sweet!
« Last Edit: January 17, 2019, 12:09 by Zero Talent »

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« Reply #56 on: January 17, 2019, 12:07 »
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.if 99% of cheater come from those is not racism ar trumps but reality.

Saying that 99% (made up number, of course) of cheaters come from some countries is exactly what xenophobia is about.
For you, some nations are inferior, some nations are "nations of cheaters".
A couple of months ago, you were ranting about Russia and Ukraine, now you rant about Algeria, Bangladesh and India.
FYI, racists or white-nationalists "justifications" function based on similar assumptions: that non-white races are inferior.

It's so sad that you don't even realize it!


only in the last two days, with minimal efforts brasilnut found at least 10 15 thieves from india. why not from usa or other country?

I look for them and they happen to be predominately from India, Pakistan, Thailand, Bangladesh and Russia. Not sure what % are fraudulent but wouldn't say it's 99%. Pity for other otherwise legitimate contributors from those countries that give them a bad name, especially India which is such a rich and colourful country. Some of those contributors just need to step out the door and see the beauty.

SS have a 90-day "high-fraud risk" list of countries before they can withdraw, so it's not by accident that those places are more likely to have thieves than others. Nothing to do with DNA or nationality/ethnicity or the fact that their staple food is rice other than potatoes, it comes down to education or in many cases, lack of. Also corruption is ripe in many of those countries and there's a kind of free-for-all and lack of social fabric that is found in more egalitarian societies. 25 cents in many of those countries is worth a lot more than 25 cents in our western developed world, so we're likely to see the proliferation of thieves in the coming years while QC standards become increasingly non-existent.

No excuse, still thieves and need to be shut down and educated. 

p.s how they let the same image be distributed by 6 people is beyond me and close to negligence for a publicly listed agency with audited accounts and a compliance dept
« Last Edit: January 17, 2019, 12:12 by Brasilnut »

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« Reply #57 on: January 17, 2019, 12:12 »
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.if 99% of cheater come from those is not racism ar trumps but reality.

Saying that 99% (made up number, of course) of cheaters come from some countries is exactly what xenophobia is about.
For you, some nations are inferior, some nations are "nations of cheaters".
A couple of months ago, you were ranting about Russia and Ukraine, now you rant about Algeria, Bangladesh and India.
FYI, racists or white-nationalists "justifications" function based on similar assumptions: that non-white races are inferior.

It's so sad that you don't even realize it!


only in the last two days, with minimal efforts brasilnut found at least 10 15 thieves from india. why not from usa or other country?

I look for them and they happen to be predominately from India, Pakistan, Thailand, Bangladesh and Russia. Pity for other contributors from those countries that give others a bad name, especially India which is such a rich and colourful country. Some of those contributors just need to step out the door and see the beauty.

SS have a 90-day "high-fraud risk" list of countries before they can withdraw, so it's not by accident that those places are more likely to have thieves than others. Nothing to do with DNA or nationality/ethnicity or the fact that their staple food is rice other than potatoes, it comes down to education or in many cases, lack of. Also corruption is ripe in many of those countries and there's a kind of free-for-all and lack of social fabric that is found in more egalitarian societies. 25 cents in many of those countries is worth a lot more than 25 cents in our western developed world, so we're likely to see the proliferation of thieves in the coming years while QC standards become increasingly non-existent.

No excuse, still thieves and need to be shut down and educated. 

p.s how they let the same image be distributed by 6 people is beyond me and close to negligence for a publicly listed agency with audited accounts and a compliance dept

another * racist:)

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« Reply #58 on: January 17, 2019, 12:18 »
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.if 99% of cheater come from those is not racism ar trumps but reality.

Saying that 99% (made up number, of course) of cheaters come from some countries is exactly what xenophobia is about.
For you, some nations are inferior, some nations are "nations of cheaters".
A couple of months ago, you were ranting about Russia and Ukraine, now you rant about Algeria, Bangladesh and India.
FYI, racists or white-nationalists "justifications" function based on similar assumptions: that non-white races are inferior.

It's so sad that you don't even realize it!


only in the last two days, with minimal efforts brasilnut found at least 10 15 thieves from india. why not from usa or other country?

I look for them and they happen to be predominately from India, Pakistan, Thailand, Bangladesh and Russia. Not sure what % are fraudulent but wouldn't say it's 99%. Pity for other otherwise legitimate contributors from those countries that give them a bad name, especially India which is such a rich and colourful country. Some of those contributors just need to step out the door and see the beauty.

SS have a 90-day "high-fraud risk" list of countries before they can withdraw, so it's not by accident that those places are more likely to have thieves than others. Nothing to do with DNA or nationality/ethnicity or the fact that their staple food is rice other than potatoes, it comes down to education or in many cases, lack of. Also corruption is ripe in many of those countries and there's a kind of free-for-all and lack of social fabric that is found in more egalitarian societies. 25 cents in many of those countries is worth a lot more than 25 cents in our western developed world, so we're likely to see the proliferation of thieves in the coming years while QC standards become increasingly non-existent.

No excuse, still thieves and need to be shut down and educated. 

p.s how they let the same image be distributed by 6 people is beyond me and close to negligence for a publicly listed agency with audited accounts and a compliance dept

completely agree...having live and traveled in most of the countries, and having many friends there what you wrote is exactly this.....russia is a rich country but compared to  western country look like middle age as far as working and business ethics...ukraine not even talk, thailand the same...china? go and watch the conditions of workers...there are no ethics in those country, and has nothing to do with trump...most of them come from communist era, and after the fall of communism the so called freedom become more a jungle where surviving makes people cheat practically everyday.
as you said  100 dollar are something in india compared to usa, that's why in the last time you see indian contributors popping out like mushrooms with fas account and stolen images, same for ukraine and russia....i know people living in siberia who earn    300 dollar months working 6 days 8 hours and more...that's why a lot cheat spam use any means to makes money in ss.

« Reply #59 on: January 17, 2019, 12:33 »
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Ok, so the so called "explanation" has evolved from Russians, Ukranians, Indians, Algerians, Bangladeshi, Chinese, Pakistanis or Thai people are cheaters to "poor people are cheaters".

What about saying that "brown people" are cheaters, or "Hindu people" are cheaters, or "Orthodox Christians"?

All these "explanations" are as "valid" as any! All of them are baseless and offensive!

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« Reply #60 on: January 17, 2019, 12:42 »
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Ok, so the so called "explanation" has evolved from Russians, Ukranians, Indians, Algerians, Bangladeshi, Chinese, Pakistanis or Thai people are cheaters to "poor people are cheaters".

What about saying that "brown people" are cheaters, or "Hindu people" are cheaters, or "Orthodox Christians"?

All these "explanations" are as "valid" as any! All of them are baseless and offensive!

a complete idiot. really. the fact you don't realize you are an idiot make you even more idiot....go back to ss forum to   spread this politically correct crap.m

« Reply #61 on: January 17, 2019, 12:49 »
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Ok, so the so called "explanation" has evolved from Russians, Ukranians, Indians, Algerians, Bangladeshi, Chinese, Pakistanis or Thai people are cheaters to "poor people are cheaters".

What about saying that "brown people" are cheaters, or "Hindu people" are cheaters, or "Orthodox Christians"?

All these "explanations" are as "valid" as any! All of them are baseless and offensive!

a complete idiot. really. the fact you don't realize you are an idiot make you even more idiot....

Great! When it's not about specific nations, it's about specific persons!

Cassical "ad hominem" and "name calling", in other words, the most intelligent ways to end an argument! Congrats!

No better way for you to confirm all what I said above! Thanks!
« Last Edit: January 17, 2019, 14:22 by Zero Talent »

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« Reply #62 on: January 17, 2019, 15:12 »
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Well Brazilnut you have a record winning entry into the image thieves collection. Two was enough, the real and the cheat. Someone found images where there were two copies and one original artist. This is the worst of the worst. I wonder who the real artist was and if they know? If it is actually Dubai it's funny how the same shot is Jakarta, Indonesia?



« Reply #63 on: January 17, 2019, 18:09 »
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Here is another if half a dozen isn't enough, with a different sky and very strange horizon.
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/dubai-skyline-sunset-1243533760

« Reply #64 on: January 17, 2019, 19:55 »
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Here is another if half a dozen isn't enough, with a different sky and very strange horizon.
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/dubai-skyline-sunset-1243533760

Whaaat? You don't say! Jack Foote from The United States?

I thought thieves are only from Russia, Ukraine, Algeria, India, Pakistan, Thailand and China... or from poor countries... or something about communism...

What about that, what about that...
« Last Edit: January 17, 2019, 21:02 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #65 on: January 17, 2019, 22:07 »
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I don't like jonbull but completely agree on this one. 5 out of six is still "most from east".

« Reply #66 on: January 17, 2019, 22:31 »
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I don't like jonbull but completely agree on this one. 5 out of six is still "most from east".

Sure, I also agree with "5 out of 6 are from east".
The problem is his extrapolation from a few examples to entire nations, including droves of decent hard working contributors.
« Last Edit: January 17, 2019, 22:33 by Zero Talent »


« Reply #67 on: January 17, 2019, 23:54 »
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Look at it from a statistical risk management point of view.
If a disproportionate amount of fraud come from a small minority of areas, that's not racist in any way.
A lot of these countries have next to no IP or copyright laws and/or next to no enforcement.

Piracy, counterfeiting and everything else are big business there and are allowed to continue unabated.  Either there are no useful laws to enforce or the authorities have no interest in enforcing them (or are even involved).

That's saying nothing about individuals or anything about race, its just cold, statistical fact.  From a business point of view it quite simply might not be worth the risk to do business with or accept submissions from those areas for those reasons.

« Reply #68 on: January 18, 2019, 02:38 »
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a complete idiot. really. the fact you don't realize you are an idiot make you even more idiot....go back to ss forum to   spread this politically correct crap.m

Thieves are never country specific. You are over-thinking or something bad happened with you at those countries.
Your comments are only revolving in the loop of country, racism, poorness of people.

If these people are cheating in SS then what SS(a US company) is doing, aren't they doing the same by allowing them to do so, even when people are continuously complaining about the same.

I request you to take some rest and stop overthinking.

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« Reply #69 on: January 18, 2019, 07:56 »
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What! Another idiot

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« Reply #70 on: January 18, 2019, 07:58 »
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Here is another if half a dozen isn't enough, with a different sky and very strange horizon.
https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/dubai-skyline-sunset-1243533760

Whaaat? You don't say! Jack Foote from The United States?

I thought thieves are only from Russia, Ukraine, Algeria, India, Pakistan, Thailand and China... or from poor countries... or something about communism...

What about that, what about that...

Apart the fact that it must be seen thatnis from
Usa... lot of russian contriboutor
Put western countries for example... but really you deny the reality... mandriltu go out hyoir immigrants mentality and you wont see rackst at every corner.

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« Reply #71 on: January 18, 2019, 08:01 »
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I don't like jonbull but completely agree on this one. 5 out of six is still "most from east".

Sure, I also agree with "5 out of 6 are from east".
The problem is his extrapolation from a few examples to entire nations, including droves of decent hard working contributors.

Idiot i already wrote you we are talking about thenpopulation pf shutterstock contriboutor... not all
Country. Other have tried to tell the same
Thing but you are in a period of life after trump
Electikn where you see racist everywhere.

« Reply #72 on: January 18, 2019, 09:39 »
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Look at it from a statistical risk management point of view.
If a disproportionate amount of fraud come from a small minority of areas, that's not racist in any way.
A lot of these countries have next to no IP or copyright laws and/or next to no enforcement.

Piracy, counterfeiting and everything else are big business there and are allowed to continue unabated.  Either there are no useful laws to enforce or the authorities have no interest in enforcing them (or are even involved).

That's saying nothing about individuals or anything about race, its just cold, statistical fact.  From a business point of view it quite simply might not be worth the risk to do business with or accept submissions from those areas for those reasons.

Disproportionate? India has 1.35 billion people. 10 thieves is 0.0000007% of Indians.
USA has 325 million pops. 1 thief from USA is proportional to 4 thieves from India.
So comparing 4 thieves against 10 thieves is more or less in the same ballpark and I would not call that disproportionate.

Our dear xenophobe, should also add, as per some recent reports, Serbia, Brunei and Turkey to his list of cheating nations which already includes, Russia, Ukraine, India, Thailand, Pakistan, China, Algeria and of course, even if not on his list, USA.

If I compare 10 thieves from India with 1 thief from Serbia (out of 7 million pops), then proportionally Serbs are bigger thieves than Indians. But nobody steal as much as people from Brunei. Yes, Brunei people, with 1 thief out of 480,000 pops are the biggest thieves on the planet.

Again, it is a Shutterstock problem, thieves are everywhere.

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« Reply #73 on: January 18, 2019, 09:49 »
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Look at it from a statistical risk management point of view.
If a disproportionate amount of fraud come from a small minority of areas, that's not racist in any way.
A lot of these countries have next to no IP or copyright laws and/or next to no enforcement.

Piracy, counterfeiting and everything else are big business there and are allowed to continue unabated.  Either there are no useful laws to enforce or the authorities have no interest in enforcing them (or are even involved).

That's saying nothing about individuals or anything about race, its just cold, statistical fact.  From a business point of view it quite simply might not be worth the risk to do business with or accept submissions from those areas for those reasons.

Disproportionate? India has 1.35 billion people. 10 thieves is 0.0000007% of Indians.
USA has 325 million pops. 1 thief from USA is proportional to 4 thieves from India.
So comparing 4 thieves against 10 thieves is more or less in the same ballpark and I would not call that disproportionate.

Our dear xenophobe, should also add, as per some recent reports, Serbia, Brunei and Turkey to his list of cheating nations which already includes, Russia, Ukraine, India, Thailand, Pakistan, China, Algeria and of course, even if not on his list, USA.

If I compare 10 thieves from India with 1 thief from Serbia (out of 7 million pops), then proportionally Serbs are bigger thieves than Indians. But nobody steal as much as people from Brunei. Yes, Brunei people, with 1 thief out of 480,000 pops are the biggest thieves on the planet.

Again, it is a Shutterstock problem, thieves are everywhere.

you are sick man...go and detoxicate from trumps....really...10 are this found by a guy in a bunch of hour understand? there are hundred are, and more coming. i suggest you..live your * sofa in usa , country who welcome you as immigrant...and go live in india and open a * business..then come back year and talk again, and this has nothing to do with racism.....has to do   with the lack of any * rules who me and you consider  normal business law...go in china and open a * business ...o and visit some place where workers live and work 24 hours without any rules.

« Reply #74 on: January 18, 2019, 09:50 »
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Again you're ignoring reality.

In other areas of IT its the same,the overwhelming (yes, disproportionate) amounts of spam and hack attempts come from an IP address belonging to certain specific countries.

IP theft numbers are disproportionately high from specific areas.

Its due to no legislation in those countries, no legal deterrent from committing offences and rampant corruption.

Quite simply, in IT and other areas you can eliminate 90% of your risk by blocking 5% of areas.

You might be deluded enough to think rates of fraud and theft are no higher in any area in the world than others but quite simply thats incorrect.



 

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