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« on: October 25, 2012, 21:39 »
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I have 300 photo in SS and can receive roughtly 45 USD per month.HOw about this performance? Good or not good? Really curious about this result.


« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2012, 21:40 »
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It's good if you're happy with it.

« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2012, 21:45 »
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It's good if you're happy with it.

I am not happy with this result.I want more dollar coming..... ;) ;)

« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2012, 22:26 »
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I had about 300 images online at SS in March 2005 when I earned $49.68 (at 23 cents a DL, no ELs or OD or anything else). I'd say you should be doing better than that now, even though there's more competition. Without seeing your portfolio, the images I had online then were nothing like as good as those I now produce, so I'm assuming mine were much worse than yours :)

« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2012, 06:32 »
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I have 300 photo in SS and can receive roughtly 45 USD per month.HOw about this performance? Good or not good? Really curious about this result.

300 images online and $45/month i believe is not bad. Course you can get $200-300/month with the same number of  files online but they must be at a very high quality and and the concept must be unique.

« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2012, 06:44 »
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That's quite weak.

Poncke

« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2012, 07:21 »
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I have to agree with Loop.

My photos are far from commercially viable, but I made about 100 dollar with 300 images online.  Also without seeing the photos its hard to tell.

If you have 300 isolations of a strawberry, you are doing well, if you have 300 conceptual photos you are doing bad.

« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2012, 07:25 »
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It also depends on how many hours and how much you spend on getting the pics. One of the joys of MS is that in the end only your opinion matters on this!

« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2012, 10:44 »
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I have to agree with Loop.

My photos are far from commercially viable, but I made about 100 dollar with 300 images online.  Also without seeing the photos its hard to tell.

If you have 300 isolations of a strawberry, you are doing well, if you have 300 conceptual photos you are doing bad.

thank you all for comments. I also thought it was no so good.
most of my photo in shutterstock are green/plant/food/building something which i can see on the road to office.I need spend more time how to catch creative thing for stock.
 8)

« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2012, 10:55 »
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   I have 300 pictures on SS and this month so far 23.40$  :( . Looks like I'm blocked to 0.1$ per picture. So you do beter than me. For me IS always beats SS (8 months in stock). Probably I'm doing something very very bad at SS. If the difference between the two were what the pool says, I'd be very very happy. This month at IS I have almost 70$, with 350 pictures (yes, my acceptance rate is also better at IS). This is a BME so far at IS, but I'm worried that in the last week things slowed down very bad there.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2012, 10:58 by tavi »

Poncke

« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2012, 11:05 »
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   I have 300 pictures on SS and this month so far 23.40$  :( . Looks like I'm blocked to 0.1$ per picture. So you do beter than me. For me IS always beats SS (8 months in stock). Probably I'm doing something very very bad at SS. If the difference between the two were what the pool says, I'd be very very happy. This month at IS I have almost 70$, with 350 pictures (yes, my acceptance rate is also better at IS). This is a BME so far at IS, but I'm worried that in the last week things slowed down very bad there.
I would check the keywording if I were you. See if your keywords are covering everything related to the image. Do they describe the image, the colors in the image, the shapes, the action, use of conceptual keywords, Synonyms. You can also post the question in the critique forum of SS and they will tell you what they think of your porftolio. You can get some good advise there.

« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2012, 11:27 »
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I have 300 photo in SS and can receive roughtly 45 USD per month.HOw about this performance? Good or not good? Really curious about this result.

If you divide out the money and images evenly between all the contributors at SS, the average contributor should have about 550 images and make about $85 a month (if I did my math right). So, you seem on track for that. That said, you have to assume that a majority of contributors at SS aren't very active (because there are some people that make a lot more than that).

My guess would be that there are only about 10K active contributors, so the average moves to about 2000 images and about $300 a month. Oddly enough, you are right on target for that too. Obviously, you can make more than that, but I'm not sure if you can expect it.

WarrenPrice

« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2012, 11:58 »
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I have 300 photo in SS and can receive roughtly 45 USD per month.HOw about this performance? Good or not good? Really curious about this result.

If you divide out the money and images evenly between all the contributors at SS, the average contributor should have about 550 images and make about $85 a month (if I did my math right). So, you seem on track for that. That said, you have to assume that a majority of contributors at SS aren't very active (because there are some people that make a lot more than that).

My guess would be that there are only about 10K active contributors, so the average moves to about 2000 images and about $300 a month. Oddly enough, you are right on target for that too. Obviously, you can make more than that, but I'm not sure if you can expect it.

I do appreciate your effort but find the numbers quite discouraging. 
At least I'm not "average."   :P

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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2012, 12:22 »
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In general, most of the posts I've seen show people earning somewhere between 10 cents and $10 per image per month on average across all sites. I think Leafs last poll showed an average of 75 cents per image per month. This isn't specific to SS but since SS seems to be the top earner for most people by far it's probably close. So, if you're making 15 cents per image per month at SS and another 25 to 50 cents a month at all other sites combined you're probably somewhere close to the 75 cent average.

I think one thing that seems to be overlooked by a lot of micro people is profitability.  Micro is a business that frequently gets tagged as a hobby. People work so hard and spend thousands of dollars and end up making enough to buy a dinner a month and may never break even.  So while it's helpful to compare how you're doing against other people, you may want to measure how you're doing as a profitable business.

Performance is affected by saleability of your work, keywording, search algorithms, SEO, and a bunch of other stuff including just plain luck.

« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2012, 13:04 »
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Cthoman gives a good balanced answer based on some actual facts..

Heres the thing, SS income depends a lot on the subs / od/ el / sod mix.  The latter 2 make a huge difference and with a small port probably only happen every few months.  Also, SS performance by others is totally invisible and, to hear some folks talk, its 20 times better than other top 4 sites even IS I take that with a shovel full of salt (actually if you believe everything you see here I can put you in touch with a Nigerian acquaintance with an interesting business proposition).

The only site where you can see the actual portfolio performance of your peers is DT.  If you compare your performance to others there, taking into account the length of time you will have some idea.  You can then extrapolate based on your own DT vs SS performance.  Accurate?  Probably not but at least its based on some real numbers.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2012, 13:07 by heywoody »

« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2012, 14:02 »
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I do appreciate your effort but find the numbers quite discouraging. 
At least I'm not "average."   :P

Yeah, it's kind of shocking how fast $120 million becomes 85 bucks.

« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2012, 14:39 »
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Think it is about average.
I just looked at my own stats from last month,

I had about 600 photos online and made $72 :-\


RacePhoto

« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2012, 19:14 »
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I have 300 photo in SS and can receive roughtly 45 USD per month.HOw about this performance? Good or not good? Really curious about this result.

If you divide out the money and images evenly between all the contributors at SS, the average contributor should have about 550 images and make about $85 a month (if I did my math right). So, you seem on track for that. That said, you have to assume that a majority of contributors at SS aren't very active (because there are some people that make a lot more than that).

My guess would be that there are only about 10K active contributors, so the average moves to about 2000 images and about $300 a month. Oddly enough, you are right on target for that too. Obviously, you can make more than that, but I'm not sure if you can expect it.

Here's what's wrong with Averages.
70% of the people on SS have less than 250 works.
22 people have over 30,000 images online.
One of them "s_bukley" has = 220 062 and they are celebrity shots, which is a niche market.

There is no average contributor because we all have different images, some people are 100% illustrations and make much better money than people who are 100% photo. And some people (points finger at myself) Have no models and no released photos, so they will make much less. ps I get about $42 a month with 325 uninspired shots.

I'd go with what the other people have said, basically it's not how many, it's what the photos are. Someone with 200 killer, great, commercial, concept shots, could make ten times what someone with 2000 sliced vegetable shots isolated on white, took my kid to the snake farm, and pretty flowers in the park, will make.

I actually think $45 a month on 300 photos is pretty much average? I know for a fact it's not above average!  ;)

(poll anyone?) Problem with a pol here is, the "average" person on MSG is in the top 5% of all Microstock contributors, so it's always going to look better than the real world average. This place is loaded with talent and success.

Keep shooting captain and remember it's not more photos that make more money, it's better ideas and concepts that makes more money.

« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2012, 02:55 »
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   Growing your port should bring in more sales. I look at what DT calls database exposure, as this is the number that counts. And if this number is growing and your sales aren't, something is wrong, and not with your pictures. I know many of you are convinced that the picture quality and concept is important for sales, but with my ugly noncommercial pictures I should sell more if my database exposure is growing. And it is at SS.
   Now, as I written in another topic, I was having an average of 30 sales a month:
april   74pics   19dlds
may   113       29
june   171       27
july    182       31
august210      30
until september, when something happened and with 266pics I made 59 sales.
Note that for all the months of 30 dlds my best day was 3 dlds, now I'm up to 60dlds and yes, my best day has upgraded to 6 sales, with lots of 4 and 5, a number that at some point I thought I will never get. Now you see, my port has grown slowly but steadly, my database exposure did the same, and I had doubled the sales in one moment.
You don't want to ask how many sales I have now. 318 pics and yes, 52 sales. I must make 2 today to keep the average. If I will not sell anything for the 2days of we, I know I will sell 6 monday, so the average will be 2.
   Yesterday evening I thought I lost this average, missing 3 sales. At 8 pm european time, I made 3 sales in 10 minutes, in three different zones, but not United States.  Sales in Europe and Africa, at an nonworking hour . After almost 48 hours without a sale. One picture sold two times in that 10 minutes, in Europe and Africa. Weird...
   The theory that ugly noncommercial images will not grow your sales simply doesn't stand for me. If I have an ugly noncommercial poor executed strawberry that sells 1 a month, it's selling out from 10000 ugly noncommercial poor executed strawberries, which sell too in an average of 1 a month. So it's not a customer who wants an ugly strawberry a month, and if i upload another he will simply pick one of them, ending me with one sale. To my logic, another ugly strawberry should bring in another sale, as long as the first ugly strawberry sells one a month.
   Please understand  I'm not complaining, as I do this for fun not for a living. I only find the numbers very very weird. In fact, I'm beginning to like tracking this wierd pattern, and I wonder when will be the next boost and how much will add.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2012, 03:23 by tavi »

« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2012, 03:33 »
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It's absolutely fine, just keep uploading and improving  you'll then get a better idea of what sells for you. Keep diversifying. There is nothing easy about being successful in micro, no shortcuts. Keep with it.
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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2012, 08:24 »
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according to 'Steve's Law' you should be making around $60 per month on 300 pics...

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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2012, 21:41 »
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In general, most of the posts I've seen show people earning somewhere between 10 cents and $10 per image per month on average across all sites. I think Leafs last poll showed an average of 75 cents per image per month. This isn't specific to SS but since SS seems to be the top earner for most people by far it's probably close. So, if you're making 15 cents per image per month at SS and another 25 to 50 cents a month at all other sites combined you're probably somewhere close to the 75 cent average.

I think one thing that seems to be overlooked by a lot of micro people is profitability.  Micro is a business that frequently gets tagged as a hobby. People work so hard and spend thousands of dollars and end up making enough to buy a dinner a month and may never break even.  So while it's helpful to compare how you're doing against other people, you may want to measure how you're doing as a profitable business.

Performance is affected by saleability of your work, keywording, search algorithms, SEO, and a bunch of other stuff including just plain luck.

Exactly, in a nutshell it's finally becoming an unsustainable business model apart for the top 5-10% contributors who are able to produce both quality and quantity paired with a good workflow.

It doesn't look funny, it's a hard job, no idea why so many newbies still waste time and money on this.

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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2012, 10:22 »
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Here are my stats:
SS 2150 files  - around 700$ per month
IS  2117 files -  around 900$ per month
 Of course I'm not satisfied with $ but hope to get better in the future. Well it' very much depends on quality(first) than quantity,  keywords ....... of port. I don't have illusion that MS is easy and fast way to earn money. After 20 years dealing with photography I"m still learning the MS how to improve myself not to be a better photographer but how to be a good seller with sense what buyers want. It is pure business and nothing to do with art. Sad but true.
That's my point of view, maybe I'm wrong but that's it.
Best

« Reply #23 on: October 29, 2012, 00:15 »
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I"m still learning the MS how to improve myself not to be a better photographer but how to be a good seller with sense what buyers want. It is pure business and nothing to do with art. Sad but true.
That's my point of view, maybe I'm wrong but that's it.
Best

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100 % agree!

« Reply #24 on: October 29, 2012, 04:34 »
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I appreciate you for this it is nice.


 

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