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Agency Based Discussion => Shutterstock.com => Topic started by: Jo Ann Snover on December 09, 2015, 00:40
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I couldn't quite believe the numbers, but SS says they have 69 million images and added 723,000 this week alone.
Their rate of additions has risen considerably in the last 6 months, and in 5 years, SS is adding 10 times the images per week that they were in December 2010
Dec 2015
69,500,356 royalty-free stock images / 723,027 new stock images added this week
Nov 2015
66,810,021 images / 541,431 added this week
Oct 2015
64,309,494 images / 584,033 added this week
Sept 2015
62,729,120 images / 572,393 added this week
Aug 2015
60,106,448 images / 475,892 added this week
Jul 2015
57,612,942 images / 408,490 added this week
Jun 2015
55,612,068 images / 277,017 added this week
Dec 2014
45,829,180 images / 299,682 added this week
Dec 2013
31,515,979 images / 200,883 added this week
Dec 2012
22,886,384 images / 72,658 added this week
Dec 2011
17,171,871 images / 90,921 added this week
Dec 2010
13,629,356 images / 74,474 added this week
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Thanks for compiling those numbers. Explains what has happened to my sales, and also suggests the answer to what was gonna happen when the entry standard drops. The ones that posted it was short term boost to impress shareholders seems to have nailed it.
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We are really seeing the crowd sourcing model at full speed here. I wonder if it can go any faster? This needs to crash soon.
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Great stats,
This number will grow even more in near future.
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Scary.... :(
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Do you have any stats showing number of sales SS make in a week?
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I wonder why so many people are still uploading? There seems little point unless you have very unique and commercial images and they would be in small quantities. I still upload occasionally but the motivation to upload the quantities I used to has gone. I see no reason to try and compete with that amount of images. Luckily old images still sell but if they ever change the search to favour new images, my earnings will vanish.
Wont the cost of hosting images hinder them at some point? I wonder how many of those 723,027 images added in a week will pay for themselves? Wont contributors get bored of the earnings dilution and isn't that going to make the quality of what they upload diminish?
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There is something very odd about the number of portfolios with thousands of similars being added at the moment, especially vector icons. I wonder if there are some sort of deals going on with some factories? Could be SS has cut some sort of volume deals with these production houses to boost numbers? I don't know but I feel like my images are still reviewed and I would never get away with uploading that kind of stuff.
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134,000 weed images and over 1 million tomatoes as of today
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I wouldn't worry about it too much, remember our friend here:
http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest (http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest)
I try to keep my portfolio fresh and diversify as much as I can. Seems to work.
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I try to keep my portfolio fresh and diversify as much as I can. Seems to work.
Smart - That's the only lever we have to pull.
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I wouldn't worry about it too much, remember our friend here:
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url])
I try to keep my portfolio fresh and diversify as much as I can.
This guy is working hard, adding fresh stuff every single day ;)
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I wouldn't worry about it too much, remember our friend here:
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url])
I try to keep my portfolio fresh and diversify as much as I can.
This guy is working hard, adding fresh stuff every single day ;)
The real hard worker, I have seen in lifetime.. Now I expect number to grow from 700k to 1.4M per week.
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I wouldn't worry about it too much, remember our friend here:
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url])
I try to keep my portfolio fresh and diversify as much as I can.
This guy is working hard, adding fresh stuff every single day ;)
The real hard worker, I have seen in lifetime.. Now I expect number to grow from 700k to 1.4M per week.
I wish I knew how much he's making.
I'd need to be stuffed full of the weed to keep motivated for what I assume are modest returns. BWDIK? Maybe that's what I should have been doing all along. ;D
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It's spiraling out of control, new images don't get any traction.
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Using Shutterstock's numbers in their IPO if only 60% of images are accepted that means they've reviewed 1.2 million images for that one week in December (723K accepted). That's 62.4 million submitted images per year if I use the 723k number. WOW WOW WOW -
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Using Shutterstock's numbers in their IPO if only 60% of images are accepted that means they've reviewed 1.2 million images for that one week in December (723K accepted). That's 62.4 million submitted images per year if I use the 723k number. WOW WOW WOW -
If someone spent 5 seconds on a review that would be 41 man days of review time to throughput that many images.
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I can upload 5... 6 images with the same concept, then change it a bit and finally have a collection of about 25 images of a shoot, but none of them have the same title/description or keywords. I can do the same thing with a different model and get 50 photos accepted but what . is that !!!
Who upload 250 images of the same thing isolated on white background !!!!!
who accept it !??!?!?
What I don't understand is that, since many images with same keywords are not good for "google search" and also shutterstock search, well... why is this stupidity is accepted ? If you upload 10000 times the same images with same data, it get lee visibility than 4 or 5 images with similar keywords, but not the same... and description is important too in this case !
They can accept 10 millions images per day, that is still useless.
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I've posted this before, so I'm repeating myself: these are just meaningless numbers to impress investors.
They probably think their search code is so sophisticated that buyers will still be able to find what they want no matter how much repetitious junk is in the database. And remember, these tens of thousands of indistinguishable icons and pot photos aren't coming in through the normal inspection process (that would be impossible), so they might be 'tagged' and indexed in some specical way to keep them out of the usual search results, but still contribute to the total number of images they can claim to have.
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I think they want to be the first agency with 1 billion images. That future could arrive sooner than later.
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Do you have any stats showing number of sales SS make in a week?
If you look at their Third Quarter investor presentation, they say they had 38.1 million paid downloads. If you assume that's over 13 weeks, that gives you 2,930,769 downloads a week (average; obviously given weeks can vary a lot from that).
The same presentation says their revenue per download is $2.76 which would mean $8.28m per week for those paid downloads.
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I wouldn't worry about it too much, remember our friend here:
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url])
I try to keep my portfolio fresh and diversify as much as I can.
This guy is working hard, adding fresh stuff every single day ;)
The real hard worker, I have seen in lifetime.. Now I expect number to grow from 700k to 1.4M per week.
I wish I knew how much he's making.
I'd need to be stuffed full of the weed to keep motivated for what I assume are modest returns. BWDIK? Maybe that's what I should have been doing all along. ;D
I'm seriously starting to wonder this too.
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their net margin is 7%, which is far too low, 25% is considered favorable, and their profit has been going down in 2015 compared to 2014, they need to increase their profits so brace yourselves
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I wouldn't worry about it too much, remember our friend here:
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url])
I try to keep my portfolio fresh and diversify as much as I can.
This guy is working hard, adding fresh stuff every single day ;)
The real hard worker, I have seen in lifetime.. Now I expect number to grow from 700k to 1.4M per week.
I wish I knew how much he's making.
I'd need to be stuffed full of the weed to keep motivated for what I assume are modest returns. BWDIK? Maybe that's what I should have been doing all along. ;D
I'm seriously starting to wonder this too.
As of today this hard worker uploaded 39282 images ;)
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I can just say that for me it is still very profitable. Right research, bigger productions,...and the return is there! Don`t know how long it will be stable though....you never know :-)
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I wouldn't worry about it too much, remember our friend here:
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url])
I try to keep my portfolio fresh and diversify as much as I can.
This guy is working hard, adding fresh stuff every single day ;)
His portfolio size is getting HIGHER and HIGHER ::)
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His portfolio size is getting HIGHER and HIGHER ::)
LOL!!! Good one.
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Do you have any stats showing number of sales SS make in a week?
If you look at their Third Quarter investor presentation, they say they had 38.1 million paid downloads. If you assume that's over 13 weeks, that gives you 2,930,769 downloads a week (average; obviously given weeks can vary a lot from that).
The same presentation says their revenue per download is $2.76 which would mean $8.28m per week for those paid downloads.
Thanks for replying. Those are some really big numbers. Unbelievable!
My income per download is ~$0.55. That's why I stay poor and SS keeps getting rich. ::)
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His portfolio size is getting HIGHER and HIGHER ::)
LOL!!! Good one.
This guy must be a dealer !!
:D
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Everybody now started making new pictures, and vectors in christmas theme, before the holyday.
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As for the guy with the humongous portfolio ....I think he found a niche...and since he somehow can take pics of the plant, (which obvioulsy is not something anyone has access to) he is just looking for some exponential growth....If you sort his portfolio by popular image, you will see the top ones are the plant...then you see the text. and he is just doing text overlays and so on... by the way he has a facebook page...if you see on his profile.
I think he is just being smart making the most of his photos...
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I think he is just being smart making the most of his photos...
Making the most of his photos, absolutely. Being smart, no.
It's like rice, it's good if you are hungry and want 2000 of something.
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:-X
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His portfolio size is getting HIGHER and HIGHER ::)
LOL!!! Good one.
This guy must be a dealer !!
:D
funny, i was just thinking the same thing. or more like, hey maybe it's ss new way of advertisement.
you become a contributor with no reviewer couration, and you put the stuff you're dealing.
this way, everyone knows who to contact when they need stuff!!! ;D
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His portfolio size is getting HIGHER and HIGHER ::)
LOL!!! Good one.
This guy must be a dealer !!
:D
funny, i was just thinking the same thing. or more like, hey maybe it's ss new way of advertisement.
you become a contributor with no reviewer curation, and you put the stuff you're dealing.
this way, everyone knows who to contact when they need stuff!!! ;D
hahahahah !
Let's buy some coke, mess and crack and make it a company expense too !!!
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Let's buy some coke, mess and crack and make it a company expense too !!!
already done - it's called wall street! and it's crowdfunded
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His portfolio size is getting HIGHER and HIGHER ::)
LOL!!! Good one.
This guy must be a dealer !!
:D
If so I don't think he'd be submitting to micro. He'd probably be able to afford to buy one of the micro sites. Or maybe all of his profits go up in smoke. :P
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134,000 weed images and over 1 million tomatoes as of today
1 million 700 tomatoes Now. Thats just Plain STUPID merchandising.Is that supposed to Impress stock Holders.
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134,000 weed images and over 1 million tomatoes as of today
1 million 700 tomatoes Now. Thats just Plain STUPID merchandising.Is that supposed to Impress stock Holders.
+1. Except how many stockholders will bother to look? They'll just be giddy over the big numbers. Or in this case 'high' numbers. ;)
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I like to draw - which is why I finally started to contribute as an illustrator. Somewhat puzzled though at the number of illustrators who produce icons and nothing but icons, for page after page, with very little in the way of originality or style.
I have no idea how buyers manage to wade through all that digital slurry.
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It's the equivalent of snapshots but they seem to struggle to find reviewers qualified enough to determine if an icon is any good or not. A decent icon is hard to design, most of the repeats are utter garbage. I don't think reviewers have the confidence to refuse them.
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134,000 weed images and over 1 million tomatoes as of today
1 million 700 tomatoes Now. Thats just Plain STUPID merchandising.Is that supposed to Impress stock Holders.
yes, if their accountant told them at shutterstock there is an stock inventory of
1 mil 700 tomatoes and a lot of marijuana. that is an impressive amount of inventory ;D
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1 mil 700 tomatoes and a lot of marijuana. that is an impressive amount of inventory.
And with a long shelf life.
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I hadn't looked in a while, but was on the buyer side of the site today and noticed that SS now has 73,202,710 images. Clearly they're not slowing down in accepting new work, although you probably have an edge if you mass produce near identical icons or marijuana overlaid with text photos :)
I then thought I'd see what the one year growth was, 20 Jan 2015 to 2016 and it was 25,462,924! That's more than the total collection was on 20 Jan 2013 (23,584,487)
Intrigued, I looked at how many images were uploaded in the last month (20 Dec 2015 to 20 Jan 2016) - 2,637,712
Same month last year (20 Dec 2014 to 20 Jan 2015) - 1,321,682
That is an increase of 99% - just about double in other words
Compare the prior year's collection growth (20 Jan 2014 to 2015) and it was 14,949,278, meaning 2015 uploads increased 70% over 2014 uploads
Go back one more year and the numbers are 9,206,021 and 62%
Who knows if the monthly growth Dec to Jan will play out for the whole of 2016, but if it did, the collection on 20 Jan 2017 would be 145,673,393
Given the size of these numbers, it just about has to be factory output in large volume with some odds and ends of more individual stuff tucked away in the nooks and crannies. Possibly a great search will save the buyers from seeing the dreck, but then what really is the point of these numbers?
It has to be to some finance person who knows nothing about buyers or sellers of stock images/illustrations/video/audio...
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Just spotted this too...they are taking "work from home reviewers" in dozens...
http://www.shutterstock.com/jobs/listings (http://www.shutterstock.com/jobs/listings)
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Just spotted this too...they are taking "work from home reviewers" in dozens...
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/jobs/listings[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/jobs/listings[/url])
Despite Jo Anne's figures above, they are also currently looking for a 'highly engaged image acquisition manager' "who loves to build partnerships with photographers and/or illustrators and agencies to include their work in our marketplace."
So they still don't think they have enough.
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Wont people get bored of uploading if they don't make much money? I would of thought that would of happened already.
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Wont people get bored of uploading if they don't make much money? I would of thought that would of happened already.
YES. And I'd add UNMOTIVATED, make minimal investment [time-equipment] etc.
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"Wont people get bored of uploading if they don't make much money?"
Clearly WE haven't got bored....YET.....and the squillions of photos being accepted each week means that lots of people are not just joining but submitting and getting photos online, so I guess they aren't bored yet... but for sure it's not a good sign.
No wonder new images get so littie traction....
:(
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I wouldn't worry about it too much, remember our friend here:
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url])
I try to keep my portfolio fresh and diversify as much as I can.
This guy is working hard, adding fresh stuff every single day ;)
His portfolio size is getting HIGHER and HIGHER ::)
now just that...
look at the roll of cash he uses...
obviously the portfolio in ss is also his free way of advertising his product on the street ;D
won't be long you will find others catching on this free web advertisement format
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No wonder new images get so little traction....
6 months for new images = $1.44 (that's one dollar!). Not a huge port (1400) but the plummeting graph says it all. SS have shot us in the foot by opening the floodgates!
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I wouldn't worry about it too much, remember our friend here:
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url])
I try to keep my portfolio fresh and diversify as much as I can. Seems to work.
El Chapo, are you?
The world's largest dealer of marijuana photos.
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723,000 is nothing 825,763 new stock images added this week. 10 million new photos every 12 weeks. Carry on.
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i have to say, didnt add much images the past 6 months but my earnings sustained
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:(((((
SS is WAY down on this time last year and with dilution like it is, I see little chance of gret improvement. Other generaly slightly up but nothing to sing/dance about.
So bad, in fact, I'm even thinking of restarting uploads to DP and BS despite feeble returns and other issues. Just to get the most out of microstock while it lasts.......sigh......
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SS allowing more images is an exercise in BS; search the keyword "food" as of right now I get 9,094,385 hits
check undiscovered (never sold) I get 4,711,579 hits
By that little estimate 51% of those images never sold. I bet the same goes for lots of other categories.
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Vectors:
Megaphone Icon - 27,000
Envelope Icon - 94,000
House Icon - 255,000
Madness!
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723,000 is nothing 825,763 new stock images added this week. 10 million new photos every 12 weeks. Carry on.
At this rate, soon it will be a million new images per week (over 50 millions a year). And that' s just one agency.
If this trend continues, it won't be too long before the collection expands by 100 millions per year.
By that little estimate 51% of those images never sold.
and only 20-25% will be ever sold.
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They're an oddly conservative company. The same business model as when they started, sell it cheap stack it high.
If there's no innovation there can only be one outcome.
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SS allowing more images is an exercise in BS; search the keyword "food" as of right now I get 9,094,385 hits
check undiscovered (never sold) I get 4,711,579 hits
By that little estimate 51% of those images never sold. I bet the same goes for lots of other categories.
yes, may be so... but what %-age is earning the bucks for ss?
if we say like your estimate... 51% never sold a penny,
59% earns xxx millions of $ for ss.
that makes it even more impressive to the shareholders than the xxx millions of new images per month,year,etc..
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They're an oddly conservative company. The same business model as when they started, sell it cheap stack it high.
If there's no innovation there can only be one outcome.
Because up till now its worked for them and the competition has been very poor. If someone cracks Quality Control and better ability to identify customer needs through better search/ customer insight technology they could be in trouble but lets wait for the next set of results before we start digging their grave they were still growing pretty fast last time they reported. And actually that model still works in retail after at least 100 years ....in the UK at least the big players forgot it and we now have European discounters snapping at their heels.
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Here's another one (http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_landing=1&gallery_id=968654&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest)... and one more (http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_landing=1&gallery_id=2940841&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest).
I wonder how many such ports have been added recently and how the numbers would change if these were deleted (or not accepted, in the first place).
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They're an oddly conservative company. The same business model as when they started, sell it cheap stack it high.
If there's no innovation there can only be one outcome.
Because up till now its worked for them and the competition has been very poor. If someone cracks Quality Control and better ability to identify customer needs through better search/ customer insight technology they could be in trouble but lets wait for the next set of results before we start digging their grave they were still growing pretty fast last time they reported. And actually that model still works in retail after at least 100 years ....in the UK at least the big players forgot it and we now have European discounters snapping at their heels.
I agree poor competition is the problem. Getty has been staying on top for decades by just buying up the competition and shutting it down. When a smaller company starts to innovate e.g. Istock they are used to just chomping it down and destroying it. Things should get interesting now adobe has also entered the fray.
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723,000 is nothing 825,763 new stock images added this week. 10 million new photos every 12 weeks. Carry on.
Fotolia has published today they just passed the 50 million milestone.
Next goal is 100 million!!! ;D
The marijuana guy have got a fresh new stuff ;D
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the end will be easy
- nobody will make a good living...
-. stock will be more amateurish with lower quality and difference...wjo is gonna invest in serious shooting? or travel remote country? yes this amateur will always shoot colosseo in rom, bangkok skyline, new york, but those really different shot only a skilled pro can take bye bye
it's clear this industry is gonna make rich the owner of those agency and nobody more. lucky i am going the quality way...old macro agency, printing, show, woking with agent. i did this choice some years ago and now is paying, in addiction i found microstok really was a limit for creativity to the point you lost your spontaneity to create shot really different.
still uploading some garbage , photos i will put in garbage if rejected, to make some 5 600 dollar month who help finance some travel or equipment.
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Another interesting theme it's the spamming and flowing of millions photos in the last year from ukraine and russia. i was in ukraine many times and
-it's cheap production...every girl is beautiful with a good attitude towards camera, you can pay her 20 euro and she's happy with the photos....theme are simple don't cost nothing...you can have assistant and other workers for 200 dollar month...studio run so cheap.
- cost of life is ridiculous,. with 800 dollar you can live a life you can dream in new york with 3000 dollar....
the 2 point make for thousand and thousand of people becoming photographer in a second, pouring zillion of similar concepts saturating everything.
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Here's another one ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_landing=1&gallery_id=968654&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url])... and one more ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_landing=1&gallery_id=2940841&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url]).
I wonder how many such ports have been added recently and how the numbers would change if these were deleted (or not accepted, in the first place).
as i said the first come from where?= ukraine...again.
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98% of new pictures just CRAPS.
Example:
http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-361647683/stock-photo-rice-seedlings-in-the-rice-fields.html?src=Q9qZ0Ey8z6givNnS3-f5FQ-1-10 (http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-361647683/stock-photo-rice-seedlings-in-the-rice-fields.html?src=Q9qZ0Ey8z6givNnS3-f5FQ-1-10)
They are kidding me?
Shutterstock become slowly to landfill.
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So will the agencies eventually go the way of us stock shooters? We eventually hit the wall where increased contributions don't make up for the falling sales. Will the agencies hit a wall where the increasing incoming contributions do not make up for the cost of reviewers, storage, backup storage, and billing overhead? At these growth rates, at some point the cost of image management (maybe cheap - but not free) must be approaching sales income when each image has such low sales. Anybody got a guess where is the agency wall and how close are they?
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Agencies are empowered. Period. They can do anything they want to increase profit.
Until we organize or, for lack of a better word, unionize and setup an agency made by the contributors/for the contributors - AND agree to submit exclusively to that agency, we will all be at the mercy of stock agencies. Period.
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98% of new pictures just CRAPS.
Example:
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-361647683/stock-photo-rice-seedlings-in-the-rice-fields.html?src=Q9qZ0Ey8z6givNnS3-f5FQ-1-10[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-361647683/stock-photo-rice-seedlings-in-the-rice-fields.html?src=Q9qZ0Ey8z6givNnS3-f5FQ-1-10[/url])
They are kidding me?
Shutterstock become slowly to landfill.
and you know?
all a series of aerial photography like this has been rejected for the most ridiculous thing...these photos are pretty unusual, u find few similar aerial like this, they are made not with go pro like most of the aerial photography u see in micro stock, and clearly shoot at sunset or before you must have a trade off between noise and sharpness...but the reviewer not even realize this.
as i said these are only the photo i not like from my aerial beach series, i send to micro stock because i didn't know what to do. other agency have taken it already so we'll see if they sell. but clearly it will be useless to send images to shutter stock.
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Agencies are empowered. Period. They can do anything they want to increase profit.
Until we organize or, for lack of a better word, unionize and setup an agency made by the contributors/for the contributors - AND agree to submit exclusively to that agency, we will all be at the mercy of stock agencies. Period.
i agree...stocksy is a good experiment but i don't have the portfolio for them. and i don't know if stocks sell good
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98% of new pictures just CRAPS.
Example:
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-361647683/stock-photo-rice-seedlings-in-the-rice-fields.html?src=Q9qZ0Ey8z6givNnS3-f5FQ-1-10[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/pic-361647683/stock-photo-rice-seedlings-in-the-rice-fields.html?src=Q9qZ0Ey8z6givNnS3-f5FQ-1-10[/url])
They are kidding me?
Pretty poor to call someone elses work out as "crap" and link to it
We all have our dissapointments with various agencies, but this is not good form
Shutterstock become slowly to landfill.
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Just now, the counts are 74,808,398 images / 843,151 added this week
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review time is 24 hours or less and also considering they reject 40% or so, reviewing about 1.5 - 2 million images each week, it has to be technology. employees cost money, they are reducing cost, cutting royalties, maximising profit, so they will not hire people to review. welcome to the machine
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801,000 added this last week.
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Wont people get bored of uploading if they don't make much money? I would of thought that would of happened already.
No, they freak out and double their production and upload twice as much just to make half as much.
True nature of crowdsourcing. People that can make money elsewhere will stop producing just for microsuck... ;D
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Another interesting theme it's the spamming and flowing of millions photos in the last year from ukraine and russia. i was in ukraine many times and
-it's cheap production...every girl is beautiful with a good attitude towards camera, you can pay her 20 euro and she's happy with the photos....theme are simple don't cost nothing...you can have assistant and other workers for 200 dollar month...studio run so cheap.
- cost of life is ridiculous,. with 800 dollar you can live a life you can dream in new york with 3000 dollar....
the 2 point make for thousand and thousand of people becoming photographer in a second, pouring zillion of similar concepts saturating everything.
So, what's the problem here? Are you complaining because someone else can do a better job for less money with a lower cost of living? How the heck is that THEIR problem?
The nature of this industry is that cameras are everywhere. People willing to do the work are everywhere. Some places will have competitive advantages over wher you happen to be. Welcome to globalization. Don't like it? Get out of the industry and start up your own niche.
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Wont people get bored of uploading if they don't make much money? I would of thought that would of happened already.
No, they freak out and double their production and upload twice as much just to make half as much.
True nature of crowdsourcing. People that can make money elsewhere will stop producing just for microsuck... ;D
Not me. I stopped uploading mon the ago. I got a lot better things to do with my life then kill myself trying to just slow down my income losses.
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It really makes me wonder how people even find my images to buy. I'm guessing when you have been at this for a lot of years you end up with quite a few buyers bookmarking your port.
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There must be a heavy bias in the search for old images because they sell much better than new ones. If they ever put the new images at the top of the search, there will be no way to make money there.
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Another interesting theme it's the spamming and flowing of millions photos in the last year from ukraine and russia. i was in ukraine many times and
-it's cheap production...every girl is beautiful with a good attitude towards camera, you can pay her 20 euro and she's happy with the photos....theme are simple don't cost nothing...you can have assistant and other workers for 200 dollar month...studio run so cheap.
- cost of life is ridiculous,. with 800 dollar you can live a life you can dream in new york with 3000 dollar....
the 2 point make for thousand and thousand of people becoming photographer in a second, pouring zillion of similar concepts saturating everything.
So, what's the problem here? Are you complaining because someone else can do a better job for less money with a lower cost of living? How the heck is that THEIR problem?
The nature of this industry is that cameras are everywhere. People willing to do the work are everywhere. Some places will have competitive advantages over wher you happen to be. Welcome to globalization. Don't like it? Get out of the industry and start up your own niche.
i like it that's why i live mostly in kiev:)
maybe you don't understand the point...but the truth is that ukraine photographer are spamming the agency with thousand and thousand of photos....like thai china and some other countries...mostly mediocre or repetitive job.
and for me the only wayy to live with micro stock is go where life is cheap...who is earning 5 6k per month with microstck? apart 10 20 big old producer with 15k images at least...nobody..99% earn from 0 to some hundred dollar...microstock is not any more a job, is a hobby. and this is reflected in the quality of the photos uploaded in the agency. ss added 800000 garbage photos every week because:
- come from new photographer
-help raise th perception in stockholders the industry is working
- they try to sell new images of new photog cause they have little portfolio and their payout will , if it will be, very low.
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"...Oh I wish it wasn't Christmas every day-ay-ay-ay!"
What do you mean, it isn't Christmas any more? :o
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until they have a professional sorting system for all that content, I have more or less given up on them. I am surprised I have sales at all, but my focus is sites where I can get at least 5 dollars or something for the download.
It takes longer to build a portfolio in macrostock, but I cannot outshoot the flood, only the stock factories will survive.
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There must be a heavy bias in the search for old images because they sell much better than new ones. If they ever put the new images at the top of the search, there will be no way to make money there.
I thought the problem was new images pushing off the old images. That's what people write?
I think new get front page until they prove downloads, views, or move to the back. I can see my most downloaded pictures are on front pages. Old or new. Photos get ranked and survive on their own, not some fake sort like some people claim. Of course, mine should all be first page because I'm the best. Everybody wants theirs on first page. It can't be,
They blame the search for being flawed, or special people get better places and that old images are being pushed back, or new images can't get traction and fail. Good photos will get ranked where they deserve to be, in time.
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There must be a heavy bias in the search for old images because they sell much better than new ones. If they ever put the new images at the top of the search, there will be no way to make money there.
I thought the problem was new images pushing off the old images. That's what people write?
I think new get front page until they prove downloads, views, or move to the back. I can see my most downloaded pictures are on front pages. Old or new. Photos get ranked and survive on their own, not some fake sort like some people claim. Of course, mine should all be first page because I'm the best. Everybody wants theirs on first page. It can't be,
They blame the search for being flawed, or special people get better places and that old images are being pushed back, or new images can't get traction and fail. Good photos will get ranked where they deserve to be, in time.
spot on both commentors !!! 8)
when sean locke said in the other thread of "1 good image or 1000 bad image" making money for you, he is not wrong.
but this only works with ss, as a top seller will always be a top seller because as you both say, it is given top rank and first page view. in my own case too, this is right. my top seller sells all the time, it is more or less my rescue boat in a month of low single large 28,80,102 sales.
with dt etc, this is not so, as they i think keep changing search placement until even your best seller dies from either being top rank and too expensive or just outrank by ppl who write blogs with dt...
as i remember they say that writing blogs on dt grant you favourable placement on search.
LOL, what has that to do with quality of your image 8)
at least in this case, ss is still the only one we can count on.
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and in reply to new images flooding ...
yes, although new images flood your work, ...
your new images also is visible to everyone.
and if your new images get dl on the first sighting, and continue to be dl-ed...
you can be sure that is going to be your next regular seller as it is given front page top view.
again, only works with ss.
so, love or hate ss, at least, it is working in our favour if we keep producing buyable images regularly.
flooding the site does not work, as you see with mr. marijuana. he only makes money from free advertising ;)
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new images need time to get traction and establish themselves. i still notice images emerge after a period of time. its also still possible to get bestsellers. and although some images have dropped off as most popular they still sell daily. some are still going after 3 years
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new images need time to get traction and establish themselves. i still notice images emerge after a period of time. its also still possible to get bestsellers. and although some images have dropped off as most popular they still sell daily. some are still going after 3 years
yes, i see the same too. i think the new emergence come from undiscovered . it is good because it shows that ss is still working hard to churn some of the inactive images in our portfolio,
unlike dt that just keeps bugging you with no sale for 3 yrs emails which i think is absurd.
it is dt which is creating this no sales by not doing anything to improve sales ...
no surprise their placement on the right column here keeps sinking like a stone.
ss OTOH keeps finding ways to get you sales, even though the big ones seems to be absent...
but i keep optimism because ss is the only one we have.
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People shouldn't worry about how many images are being added. It's something people can't control. We're all contributors and we're all submitting images, so we're all part of it.
Worry about what we can control, our own images, and our own portfolios. Even with the new images added, I haven't seen any dilution in sales. If the SS search engine is Eye of Sauron, then your images need to be one ring to rule them all.
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People shouldn't worry about how many images are being added. It's something people can't control. We're all contributors and we're all submitting images, so we're all part of it.
Worry about what we can control, our own images, and our own portfolios. Even with the new images added, I haven't seen any dilution in sales. If the SS search engine is Eye of Sauron, then your images need to be one ring to rule them all.
Hmmm. In the end, the One Ring was thrown into Sauron's huge volcanic inferno and destroyed...
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... I cannot outshoot the flood, only the stock factories will survive.
I stopped uploading photos and switched to videos.
I am really happy with the results! :)
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... I cannot outshoot the flood, only the stock factories will survive.
I stopped uploading photos and switched to videos.
I am really happy with the results! :)
That will just encourage more people to switch to video and then we have the same problem :)
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People shouldn't worry about how many images are being added. It's something people can't control. We're all contributors and we're all submitting images, so we're all part of it.
Worry about what we can control, our own images, and our own portfolios. Even with the new images added, I haven't seen any dilution in sales. If the SS search engine is Eye of Sauron, then your images need to be one ring to rule them all.
what i see is the i earn always the same in ss....i uploaded till the 2010 and then nothing more, just some hundred per year....I have now thousand of photos that i left in my hard disk, i focus more in other photography than stock...i travel a lot and accumulate more than 2000000 thousand photos in the last year.
In the last month i decided to reebgin uploading. in the last 5 years even not uploading i always have the same earning...my portfolio is 2000 file now travel and editorial mostly. what i noticed is that i still keep selling the same images. some have more than 800 download. all the newest photos from 2013 have 0,5% of all sales...and they are good images, from travel mostly.
i have the impression that the images i uploaded when there were not millions in the agency, have now a solid position in search engine, and they are chosen while the new one simply go down the sink of the zillions of images,m without any possibility of being found.
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It's Easy Jet and Ryan Air legacy all over...cheap, cheaper, the cheapest EVERYTHING.
Only big bosses live well. 8)
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... I cannot outshoot the flood, only the stock factories will survive.
I stopped uploading photos and switched to videos.
I am really happy with the results! :)
That will just encourage more people to switch to video and then we have the same problem :)
Were already there.
Were at 810,000 Images this week.
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... I cannot outshoot the flood, only the stock factories will survive.
I stopped uploading photos and switched to videos.
I am really happy with the results! :)
That will just encourage more people to switch to video and then we have the same problem :)
Were already there.
Were at 810,000 Images this week.
Wow, that number is mind blowing!!!
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... I cannot outshoot the flood, only the stock factories will survive.
I stopped uploading photos and switched to videos.
I am really happy with the results! :)
and how are the results... and port :)
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I wouldn't worry about it too much, remember our friend here:
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url])
I try to keep my portfolio fresh and diversify as much as I can.
This guy is working hard, adding fresh stuff every single day ;)
The real hard worker, I have seen in lifetime.. Now I expect number to grow from 700k to 1.4M per week.
I wish I knew how much he's making.
I'd need to be stuffed full of the weed to keep motivated for what I assume are modest returns. BWDIK? Maybe that's what I should have been doing all along. ;D
i must be lucky also with this guy around 4/5 marijuana pictures of mine are still in first SS page ahahhaahah
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I wouldn't worry about it too much, remember our friend here:
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url])
I try to keep my portfolio fresh and diversify as much as I can.
This guy is working hard, adding fresh stuff every single day ;)
The real hard worker, I have seen in lifetime.. Now I expect number to grow from 700k to 1.4M per week.
I wish I knew how much he's making.
I'd need to be stuffed full of the weed to keep motivated for what I assume are modest returns. BWDIK? Maybe that's what I should have been doing all along. ;D
i must be lucky also with this guy around 4/5 marijuana pictures of mine are still in first SS page ahahhaahah
LOL, i guess we all have to get hold of a stash of marijuana and flood the "stock market"
if we want to survive in this microstock business.
only that if i do get to buy some marijuana and put them in my portfolio,
i will have the cops bulldozing down my property for possession of illegal substance 8)
and all that just to make 38 cts 8)
do you think it's worth it getting myself on a WANTED poster :'(
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I wouldn't worry about it too much, remember our friend here:
[url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/portfolio/search.mhtml?gallery_id=1256674&gallery_landing=1&page=1&safesearch=1&sort_method=newest[/url])
I try to keep my portfolio fresh and diversify as much as I can.
This guy is working hard, adding fresh stuff every single day ;)
The real hard worker, I have seen in lifetime.. Now I expect number to grow from 700k to 1.4M per week.
I wish I knew how much he's making.
I'd need to be stuffed full of the weed to keep motivated for what I assume are modest returns. BWDIK? Maybe that's what I should have been doing all along. ;D
i must be lucky also with this guy around 4/5 marijuana pictures of mine are still in first SS page ahahhaahah
LOL, i guess we all have to get hold of a stash of marijuana and flood the "stock market"
if we want to survive in this microstock business.
only that if i do get to buy some marijuana and put them in my portfolio,
i will have the cops bulldozing down my property for possession of illegal substance 8)
and all that just to make 38 cts 8)
do you think it's worth it getting myself on a WANTED poster :'(
Pot is legal in a lot of places now. Maybe the pot God who floods SS with weed pics lives in one of those places?
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How does he stay motivated? Can't be smoking the stuff :)
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How does he stay motivated? Can't be smoking the stuff :)
Selling it would be worth more then micro. :P
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How does he stay motivated? Can't be smoking the stuff :)
Maybe he can't remember his last upload? Every batch he thinks he's had a great new idea.
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How does he stay motivated? Can't be smoking the stuff :)
Maybe he can't remember his last upload? Every batch he thinks he's had a great new idea.
ROFLMAO! Best comment I've read in weeks!