Author Topic: New images hardly sell (Read 7033 times)

VB inc · « **on:** August 13, 2015, 14:04 »

It has been my experience that new files generally sell right off the bat once approved and put out in the database (vectors). It seems to me that with the sheer number of new images being accepted, it is very hard for new images to compete or even be seen.
I will give example. Last year i uploaded something to do with baseball right before baseball season started... it got bought a couple of times right away and then proceeded to pick up steam. It is in front page of search for baseball and has over 800 downloads getting anywhere from 1-6 downloads a day.
I do the same thing for football this year earlier. It got downloaded right away also. but after a download or 2 later, it has disappeared. I know this file will succeed if given the chance.
It seems the window of opportunity for your files to succeed has gotten a lot shorter. Am i the only one seeing this trend? Or is this a known thing for some time and I just realize it now because I only upload a couple of files a month and haven't noticed...
If this is the new normal, I probably would stop producing for the microstock market.

marthamarks · « **Reply #1 on:** August 13, 2015, 14:50 »

Quote from: VB inc on August 13, 2015, 14:04

It seems the window of opportunity for your files to succeed has gotten a lot shorter. Am i the only one seeing this trend?

You're not the only one. I'm seeing the same results after uploading 150+ images from trips made this spring and summer. Only a handful of the new images seem to have gained traction, while older successes continue selling.

Yes, this is frustrating, because many of the newer ones should do as well or better than the older ones: made with a new camera, popular subjects, etc.

With fifty million avalable images, it's getting harder and harder to compete.

stockmarketer · « **Reply #2 on:** August 13, 2015, 16:04 »

Yup. The new normal. No downloads of new stuff. I'm about ready to stop uploading.

wds · « **Reply #3 on:** August 13, 2015, 17:02 »

Maybe they changed the algorithm so you have to "give it more time"? How long has this been the case?

cascoly · « **Reply #4 on:** August 13, 2015, 17:18 »

I've had the opposite results lately -- usually my images take awhile to get downloads, but lately both my se asia and seattle/rainier images have been generating sales when uploaded - I've given up trying to figure it out, just keep producing & uploading

Sebastian Radu · « **Reply #5 on:** August 14, 2015, 02:27 »

My opinion is that these sophisticated algorithms are changed so often and are so complicated that not even worth wasting our time talking about them. I sent several emails in the past but I have received only some general answers, without anything precisely.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 14, 2015, 03:55 »

I've noticed I've been getting sales of old images (at least 3-4 years ago) that sold at best poorly originally and new images not going well. No point in working out why I just keep loading stuff in the hope some sticks.

madman · « **Reply #7 on:** August 14, 2015, 05:29 »

I think they are limiting contributor's earnings in any way in time.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 14, 2015, 05:32 »

Quote from: madman on August 14, 2015, 05:29

I think they are limiting contributor's earnings in any way in time.

Heard this before why would they want to do that?

madman · « **Reply #9 on:** August 14, 2015, 05:42 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on August 14, 2015, 05:32

Heard this before why would they want to do that?

because of every day joining new contributors for selling images, I think the newcomers are recently increased too much, if the oldest members continuously wins, what will win new ones? if someone win, then someone must be lose, IMO.

jarih · « **Reply #10 on:** August 14, 2015, 05:59 »

Quote from: madman on August 14, 2015, 05:42

Quote from: Pauws99 on August 14, 2015, 05:32
Heard this before why would they want to do that?

because of every day joining new contributors for selling images, I think the newcomers are recently increased too much, if the oldest members continuously wins, what will win new ones? if someone win, then someone must be lose, IMO.

Sounds logical, evens incomes and all are "happy". Sometimes I think that there is some kind of day limit which is very hard to break. Perhaps it is so, after limit is filled you go down on search.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 14, 2015, 06:37 »

Don't see it at all - why would they want to deprive customers of their "best" pictures when their business plan is all about offering customers the best images. Why risk customers going off to another site to find what they want.

Mantis · « **Reply #12 on:** August 14, 2015, 08:14 »

I just uploaded about 130 images, albeit travel shots like these, and have sold 1 in a week for 38 cents. Certainly these are not "stock" per se, but my other nature stuff sells very well. I've noticed that there seems to be a several month lag then the "new images" start to finally move. Anyone else notice this trend?

sgoodwin4813 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 14, 2015, 08:18 »

I've noticed the same thing - often a lag and then they start to sell. Looks like you had a good time in Hawaii.

Ronnie · « **Reply #14 on:** August 14, 2015, 08:51 »

Quote from: cascoly on August 13, 2015, 17:18

I've had the opposite results lately -- usually my images take awhile to get downloads, but lately both my se asia and seattle/rainier images have been generating sales when uploaded - I've given up trying to figure it out, just keep producing & uploading

Im with you, be positive "just keep producing and uploading"

madman · « **Reply #15 on:** August 14, 2015, 11:05 »

remember folks, your images maybe very high quality, furthermore, your images will not sold if dont appear in search results somewhere in the first places, someone or other things that I dont understand be able to determine this, e.g, I have several images almost never sold on one microstock site, although was sold too much on another microstock site.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 14, 2015, 11:07 »

Customers also have different needs on different sites no point in analysing this just keep uploading to maximise your chances.

pkphotos · « **Reply #17 on:** August 14, 2015, 11:08 »

I'm wondering if anything is selling at the moment. My photos and especially footage is runnung less than 50% of an average month.

madman · « **Reply #18 on:** August 14, 2015, 11:26 »

Quote from: pkphotos on August 14, 2015, 11:08

I'm wondering if anything is selling at the moment. My photos and especially footage is runnung less than 50% of an average month.

yes, I am in the exact same situatin, too, here is another discussion

http://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/are-we-entering-dead-season/msg428591/?topicseen#new

madman · « **Reply #19 on:** August 14, 2015, 14:06 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on August 14, 2015, 11:07

Customers also have different needs on different sites no point in analysing this

I dont think it is so important (at least IMO), as everyone knows, most of microstock sites are similar like copycat.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #20 on:** August 14, 2015, 14:58 »

Not sure about for example that in my opinion SS has a certain style - bright shiny american optimism while fotolia is more european realistic and more downbeat.

This may also be reflected in their search algorithms.

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