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« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2021, 14:18 »
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Many years back there was a big argument between Scott and Rinder it all ended up with Scott leaving and got about 50 peple banned in the process of leaving! and I'm talking some very big names getting banned!  being banned from SS is nothing new!

50 people banned from the forum for an incident? That's amazing. Must have been some real blow up? Banned for what reason? Fifty People! Scott?

You were around then?? no? it started with a row between Laurin and Scott and tons of members took Laurins side, cut a long story short it all got totally out of hand with lots of swearing this and that. Scott got the boot I think but just before leaving he banned lots of people that was cheering on Laurin!...surprised you dont remember??


« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2021, 15:54 »
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Many years back there was a big argument between Scott and Rinder it all ended up with Scott leaving and got about 50 peple banned in the process of leaving! and I'm talking some very big names getting banned!  being banned from SS is nothing new!

50 people banned from the forum for an incident? That's amazing. Must have been some real blow up? Banned for what reason? Fifty People! Scott?

You were around then?? no? it started with a row between Laurin and Scott and tons of members took Laurins side, cut a long story short it all got totally out of hand with lots of swearing this and that. Scott got the boot I think but just before leaving he banned lots of people that was cheering on Laurin!...surprised you dont remember??

Scott was the Admin there, then it makes more understanding how 50 people got banned by mad managers.

« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2021, 16:13 »
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Many years back there was a big argument between Scott and Rinder it all ended up with Scott leaving and got about 50 peple banned in the process of leaving! and I'm talking some very big names getting banned!  being banned from SS is nothing new!

50 people banned from the forum for an incident? That's amazing. Must have been some real blow up? Banned for what reason? Fifty People! Scott?

You were around then?? no? it started with a row between Laurin and Scott and tons of members took Laurins side, cut a long story short it all got totally out of hand with lots of swearing this and that. Scott got the boot I think but just before leaving he banned lots of people that was cheering on Laurin!...surprised you dont remember??
I was around (from 2012) but I don't remember such a mass punishment ever. Sure not 5 years ago because at this time more people would like to see Laurin gone than cheering on his stay.

« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2021, 17:35 »
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I can still write on their forums but my contributor account was disabled when I reactivated my files for sale after the two week protest.

No reason was given, their small print apparently allows them to do this.

They brought in a new rule that if you deactivated your account you could not restore it for a month. Maybe, try again.

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« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2021, 03:13 »
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Many years back there was a big argument between Scott and Rinder it all ended up with Scott leaving and got about 50 peple banned in the process of leaving! and I'm talking some very big names getting banned!  being banned from SS is nothing new!

50 people banned from the forum for an incident? That's amazing. Must have been some real blow up? Banned for what reason? Fifty People! Scott?

You were around then?? no? it started with a row between Laurin and Scott and tons of members took Laurins side, cut a long story short it all got totally out of hand with lots of swearing this and that. Scott got the boot I think but just before leaving he banned lots of people that was cheering on Laurin!...surprised you dont remember??
I was around (from 2012) but I don't remember such a mass punishment ever. Sure not 5 years ago because at this time more people would like to see Laurin gone than cheering on his stay.

As Diane said Scott was in the Admin and got the boot, it wasnt officially known but actually it was more the 50 as some sort of revenge thing!  many also had their ports removed!

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« Reply #30 on: February 17, 2021, 13:42 »
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Many years back there was a big argument between Scott and Rinder it all ended up with Scott leaving and got about 50 peple banned in the process of leaving! and I'm talking some very big names getting banned!  being banned from SS is nothing new!

50 people banned from the forum for an incident? That's amazing. Must have been some real blow up? Banned for what reason? Fifty People! Scott?

You were around then?? no? it started with a row between Laurin and Scott and tons of members took Laurins side, cut a long story short it all got totally out of hand with lots of swearing this and that. Scott got the boot I think but just before leaving he banned lots of people that was cheering on Laurin!...surprised you dont remember??
I was around (from 2012) but I don't remember such a mass punishment ever. Sure not 5 years ago because at this time more people would like to see Laurin gone than cheering on his stay.

As Diane said Scott was in the Admin and got the boot, it wasnt officially known but actually it was more the 50 as some sort of revenge thing!  many also had their ports removed!

Well you know this is a Microstock discussion, so if I didn't see it, then it didn't happen?  ;)

Thanks for explaining, I might not have been active on the forum or wasn't paying attention or being a Senior I forgot. LOL Thank you for refreshing the time and circumstances.

No I don't remember Scott, or some uprising defending Rinder (that's odd in itself) or 50 people being banned. Sounds pretty much like this Scott (if it's true) had a personal melt down and before being let go, a little bit of narcissistic anger and a boatload of revenge. Or maybe it was his way of insuring he'd be let go, by scuttling the ship and jumping overboard. Whatever it all sounds rude and mean spirited. OK plain stupid and senseless covers it.

I remember Vincent who was decent and tried. He left on his own. He started in 2012. I'll guess that he replaced Scott?

Now back to NOW. Did anyone actually have their account closed as a contributor, in 2020, for what they posted on the forums? I know some people disabled and had lost images or couldn't enable them again. SS didn't initiate that. And who could ever know what software flaws could create a blocked account after it was disabled?

I've heard many contributors were banned by Shutterstock last year when they changed the royalty structure. 

I heard that no one was banned and the number was not "many" if any, possibly one and he disabled his own account. The rest of your leading questions are based on the false assumption that you invented.

Lets try again, @Blvdone, who was actually banned? Maybe then we could find out why, if they know? Should be easy if it was many people?

Or is the whole post just a troll?
« Last Edit: February 17, 2021, 17:36 by Uncle Pete »

« Reply #31 on: May 07, 2021, 04:46 »
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Banned 🙋‍♂️. No reason given, violation of TOS but that can be anything. Cancel Culture at its best, they probably didnt like my public dissatisfaction and posts about their thievery so I got the boot 🥾 #shutterstockcontributor #shutterstockboycott #sstk #shutterstock #boycottshutterstock shutterstocknow

they have every right to legally make such changes,

I wouldn't be so sure about that and why stick up for such an unethical company? if it is legal it should say in the T&Cs that they have the right to cut pay rates but it doesn't. I don't why you say that they do have the legal right. If I'd known they'd pull a stunt like that, I wouldn't have joined SS 6 months earlier. There are even new contributors who left disgusted after they got their 1st lowest sub-rate DL sale. I was banned (forum only but don't care) because for 3 months straight all I got was the lowest sub rate for DLs and so I complained about it on the forum saying greedy called them names etc. but anyone would after the pitiful earnings I got. SS doesn't even allow people to say how much they earn on other sites which is definitely against freedom of speech. I'd understand if we were employees but we're not. If someone is trained like I was in the 80s (art/design and photography, companies should pay decent rates. But thanks to the rich tech geeks & their websites they (and the buyers) have reduced the value of design & photography and nothing was ever done to control them.

« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2021, 08:14 »
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Banned 🙋‍♂️. No reason given, violation of TOS but that can be anything. Cancel Culture at its best, they probably didnt like my public dissatisfaction and posts about their thievery so I got the boot 🥾 #shutterstockcontributor #shutterstockboycott #sstk #shutterstock #boycottshutterstock shutterstocknow

they have every right to legally make such changes,

I wouldn't be so sure about that and why stick up for such an unethical company? if it is legal it should say in the T&Cs that they have the right to cut pay rates but it doesn't. I don't why you say that they do have the legal right. If I'd known they'd pull a stunt like that, I wouldn't have joined SS 6 months earlier. There are even new contributors who left disgusted after they got their 1st lowest sub-rate DL sale. I was banned (forum only but don't care) because for 3 months straight all I got was the lowest sub rate for DLs and so I complained about it on the forum saying greedy called them names etc. but anyone would after the pitiful earnings I got. SS doesn't even allow people to say how much they earn on other sites which is definitely against freedom of speech. I'd understand if we were employees but we're not. If someone is trained like I was in the 80s (art/design and photography, companies should pay decent rates. But thanks to the rich tech geeks & their websites they (and the buyers) have reduced the value of design & photography and nothing was ever done to control them.

Ummm, the T&Cs absolutely say that SS can set and change royalties. How on Earth do you think that they shouldn't be?

You are NOT a Shutterstock employee. You are using their service to sell licenses to use your images. You are a customer (edit: you are basically a customer of their service). They pay you a royalty and as long as you are ok with that royalty you will continue to use their service (or not like some of us).
Get off your high horse, you aren't special. If you want to be a rich tech geek, start your own microstock company.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2021, 12:07 by Copidosoma »

« Reply #33 on: May 07, 2021, 09:12 »
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Banned 🙋‍♂️. No reason given, violation of TOS but that can be anything. Cancel Culture at its best, they probably didnt like my public dissatisfaction and posts about their thievery so I got the boot 🥾 #shutterstockcontributor #shutterstockboycott #sstk #shutterstock #boycottshutterstock shutterstocknow

they have every right to legally make such changes,

I wouldn't be so sure about that and why stick up for such an unethical company? if it is legal it should say in the T&Cs that they have the right to cut pay rates but it doesn't. I don't why you say that they do have the legal right. If I'd known they'd pull a stunt like that, I wouldn't have joined SS 6 months earlier. There are even new contributors who left disgusted after they got their 1st lowest sub-rate DL sale. I was banned (forum only but don't care) because for 3 months straight all I got was the lowest sub rate for DLs and so I complained about it on the forum saying greedy called them names etc. but anyone would after the pitiful earnings I got. SS doesn't even allow people to say how much they earn on other sites which is definitely against freedom of speech. I'd understand if we were employees but we're not. If someone is trained like I was in the 80s (art/design and photography, companies should pay decent rates. But thanks to the rich tech geeks & their websites they (and the buyers) have reduced the value of design & photography and nothing was ever done to control them.

Ummm, the T&Cs absolutely say that SS can set and change royalties. How on Earth do you think that they shouldn't be?

You are NOT a Shutterstock employee. You are using their service to sell licenses to use your images. You are a customer. They pay you a royalty and as long as you are ok with that royalty you will continue to use their service (or not like some of us).
Get off your high horse, you aren't special. If you want to be a rich tech geek, start your own microstock company.

Actually, the ToS specifies that we are independent contractors:

18. Miscellaneous
The relationship of the parties is that of independent contractors. There is no relationship of partnership, joint venture, employment, franchise or agency created hereby between the parties.


And yes, when we all signed up and agreed to work with them, we also agreed that SS can change everything, including royalties. We obviously have the option to stop working with them, if the new terms are not fitting our standards:

f. Please note that Shutterstock reserves the right to modify these terms at any time in its sole discretion, it being understood that no changes shall apply to any pending arbitration proceeding commenced or legal claims asserted prior to such change. Shutterstock will notify you of any such change by an announcement on this page, your login page, and/or by other means to provide you the opportunity to review the modifications before they become effective. Modifications to these TOS will not apply retroactively. By continuing to make Content available through Shutterstock, you agree to be bound by all such changes. If you do not agree with any of the changes, please remove from Shutterstock, pursuant to the terms herein, all or that portion of your Content to which you do not wish the changes to apply

« Last Edit: May 07, 2021, 09:18 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #34 on: May 07, 2021, 12:06 »
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« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2021, 04:51 »
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Banned 🙋‍♂️. No reason given, violation of TOS but that can be anything. Cancel Culture at its best, they probably didnt like my public dissatisfaction and posts about their thievery so I got the boot 🥾 #shutterstockcontributor #shutterstockboycott #sstk #shutterstock #boycottshutterstock shutterstocknow

they have every right to legally make such changes,

I wouldn't be so sure about that and why stick up for such an unethical company? if it is legal it should say in the T&Cs that they have the right to cut pay rates but it doesn't. I don't why you say that they do have the legal right.

As explained by others, it does say it in the T&C's. Stating facts doesn't mean I'm sticking up for a company. I could have said "you're right, they're breaking the law and you should sue them" to make you happy... but that would be a lie, and potentially costly advice. 

« Reply #36 on: May 15, 2021, 15:21 »
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I was also banned from the forum with no warning and I rarely posted. Contributor account is still going though but will leave SS when I reach $35 threshold which is taking a lo-ng time due to the miserly lo-ow DL payments. Wish I could leave now but can't afford to forfeit my earnings with the time I've put in there.

« Reply #37 on: May 15, 2021, 18:08 »
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the best thing is to not share your opinions,when its something negative towards the agency  at their forums anymore.they dont want you to criticize them for any of their actions.including the joke 10 cents sales
its their site.its  their business.ITS their rules.although i find it bit funny that there is a thread for other agencies to work with with the title new oportunites. i guess that didnt bother them, that people  talking about their competitors and the thread is still active
what really annoyes  me with ss is not so much the 10 cents ok its something serious.BUT the whole AI reviewing images
you getting tons of rejections cause of some stupid program and it drives many people away .
unfo i see this happening lately with adobe.the one rejection after the other and i have to wonder if they are also using an AI


« Reply #38 on: Yesterday at 06:18 »
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I was also banned from the forum with no warning and I rarely posted. Contributor account is still going though but will leave SS when I reach $35 threshold which is taking a lo-ng time due to the miserly lo-ow DL payments. Wish I could leave now but can't afford to forfeit my earnings with the time I've put in there.

Somebody wrote here that we get our payment even if it is below the 35 $, if we close our account.
I also still do not really believe it and wanted to ask SS about that, but that day even the moderators links were not working - and of course there is no chance anymore to contact directly to SS support and get someone to answer from SS itself. So i am also curious, should I wait until I can get my payout or not? but it will for sure take much longer than for you, because when SS started the new payment, I deleted all better photos and only left the worst and some normal photos, which - why ever - until now get sales regulary.

« Reply #39 on: Yesterday at 07:27 »
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Unless its changed recently then no, you dont get payment if you close an account under that number.

That said, its only <$35.  Its not important.

K2

« Reply #40 on: Yesterday at 21:35 »
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Getting banned by SS might not be such a bad thing. I haven't been banned personally, but just saying. Why be bothered with a company that doesn't give one iota of respect to contributors? I've deleted my SS account today after 9 years and will just go video exclusive to Pond5.


 

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