Post by: vector99 on June 09, 2020, 12:47
Post by: NeonRobot on June 09, 2020, 12:50
Shuttestock's new payment policy is unacceptable. A total disregard for all those who have long contributed to the growth of the company. They bet on garbage published in astronomical quantities ... I refuse to earn 10 cents per photo. I will not post more photos until them go back!
https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/stop-uploading-to-ss-join-the-action/msg552251/ (https://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/stop-uploading-to-ss-join-the-action/msg552251/)
Post by: Ronib on June 09, 2020, 12:50
Shuttestock's new payment policy is unacceptable. A total disregard for all those who have long contributed to the growth of the company. They bet on garbage published in astronomical quantities ... I refuse to earn 10 cents per photo. I will not post more photos until them go back!
Post by: Dumc on June 09, 2020, 13:10
Shuttestock's new payment policy is unacceptable. A total disregard for all those who have long contributed to the growth of the company. They bet on garbage published in astronomical quantities ... I refuse to earn 10 cents per photo. I will not post more photos until them go back!
Spread the word
Post by: fritz on June 09, 2020, 13:16
slow but...
Post by: microvideo on June 09, 2020, 15:18
Post by: marthamarks on June 09, 2020, 16:34
[url]http://shuttercounter.ddns.net/[/url] ([url]http://shuttercounter.ddns.net/[/url])
slow but...
Very well done chart. Please keep it up!
Post by: GrayMouse on June 09, 2020, 16:53
I have an idea. If you still have your pictures online on SS go to your catalog manager and change the title of your photos to something like Don't buy from Shutterstock, Shutterstock is Stealing from Artists or something similar so buyers can see it.And what they are stealing? Nothing. Next idea?
Post by: cathyslife on June 09, 2020, 17:03
Post by: noodle on June 09, 2020, 19:47
Here’s an idea. Instead of playing games, just go to Shutterstock and delete your images.
BINGO!!
Post by: art_of_sun on June 12, 2020, 02:10
Also they plan to massive opt-out their accounts at June 15th. Please join and share!
(https://assets.change.org/photos/3/xf/as/YhxfasyzQGkoDqH-800x450-noPad.jpg)
Post by: Wine_wine on June 12, 2020, 03:45
Hi guys. Russian contributors made the NEW petition to Shutterstock against new royalty system. Hope you can support it: https://www.change.org/p/change-the-humiliating-system-of-royalties-for-shutterstock-contributors (https://www.change.org/p/change-the-humiliating-system-of-royalties-for-shutterstock-contributors)
Also they plan to massive opt-out their accounts at June 15th. Please join and share!
(https://assets.change.org/photos/3/xf/as/YhxfasyzQGkoDqH-800x450-noPad.jpg)
FULLY SUPPORT! THIS ACTION CAN REALLY HURT SHUTTERSTOCK
Post by: reisegraf on June 12, 2020, 05:33
But my problem is, if I would boycott SS, I would have to do the same with 123rf (-.47/DL), Bigstock for sure (-.28/DL) and iStock (-.43/DL) - all low paying agencies...
And I would then cut 66%! of my total income! You most probably ask yourself why I still work with Bigstock? I just sell totally different pics there, they sell images what I never sold with others, I don’t know why, but it's additional income for me.
Btw, I'm selling about 600 images/month.
How about you, how are you proceeding, and did you compare your sales these days?
Greeez, Martin
Post by: cascoly on June 12, 2020, 18:56
[url]http://shuttercounter.ddns.net/[/url] ([url]http://shuttercounter.ddns.net/[/url])
slow but...
Very well done chart. Please keep it up!
but what shows is the futility of any boycott -- even removing 2 million images would only reduce the total by 1%. no one will notice. delete 20 million and SS will replace them quickly (and no portfolio consists of all best sellers - likely 20% of a portfolio produces 80% of income)
delete your images for other reasons, but don't imagine it will affect SS at all. you'd have a better chance of boycotting the post office
-- W.A.S.T.E (we await silent trystero's empire)
Post by: douglas on June 12, 2020, 19:45
but what shows is the futility of any boycott -- even removing 2 million images would only reduce the total by 1%. no one will notice. delete 20 million and SS will replace them quickly (and no portfolio consists of all best sellers - likely 20% of a portfolio produces 80% of income)
delete your images for other reasons, but don't imagine it will affect SS at all.
When I disabled my images I thought the same thing: it would not make a difference to Shutterstock but, to hell with that, it was a statement which had to be made and I was not going to sell images for 10c.
I was encouraged to see the figure for uploaded images per week fall from 1.6M on 1 June to below 1M today, probably more important than the total number in the collection as much content ages quickly.
I needed an image this evening which I would normally have strolled out the door and shot. However, I am still in partial lockdown at the other side of Europe but knew I had one pretty close to the view required, formerly on SS, now on DT. I found it on DT (happy to see it on the first row after only uploading last weekend) but, because I was curious, was stunned to see how few images now matched those keywords on SS.
So a boycott is not going to make a difference to searches for “happy smiley people doing happy smiley things” or “isolated tomato”. It will be the specific images missing from SS, because it covered almost everything and everywhere, and these will not be instantly replaced by image factories, rather than the generic which will be their undoing as the result of frustration on the part of buyers.
Post by: whtvr on June 13, 2020, 01:26
[url]http://shuttercounter.ddns.net/[/url] ([url]http://shuttercounter.ddns.net/[/url])
slow but...
Videos and vectors still go up, is it mass uploaders like Blackbox or similar or what?
Post by: cathyslife on June 13, 2020, 14:03
but what shows is the futility of any boycott -- even removing 2 million images would only reduce the total by 1%. no one will notice. delete 20 million and SS will replace them quickly (and no portfolio consists of all best sellers - likely 20% of a portfolio produces 80% of income)
delete your images for other reasons, but don't imagine it will affect SS at all.
When I disabled my images I thought the same thing: it would not make a difference to Shutterstock but, to hell with that, it was a statement which had to be made and I was not going to sell images for 10c.
I was encouraged to see the figure for uploaded images per week fall from 1.6M on 1 June to below 1M today, probably more important than the total number in the collection as much content ages quickly.
I needed an image this evening which I would normally have strolled out the door and shot. However, I am still in partial lockdown at the other side of Europe but knew I had one pretty close to the view required, formerly on SS, now on DT. I found it on DT (happy to see it on the first row after only uploading last weekend) but, because I was curious, was stunned to see how few images now matched those keywords on SS.
So a boycott is not going to make a difference to searches for “happy smiley people doing happy smiley things” or “isolated tomato”. It will be the specific images missing from SS, because it covered almost everything and everywhere, and these will not be instantly replaced by image factories, rather than the generic which will be their undoing as the result of frustration on the part of buyers.
Removing 2 million QUALITY images will leave massive holes in the collection, not to mention create frustration for customers who lightboxed images, only to return to buy and find the images are gone. Will SS care? No. Will customers care? You bet. Will shareholders care that they are losing customers? You bet. And the images that are disappearing are being replaced with mostly similars garbage. Yes, some quality images are being still uploaded. But still, I’m pretty impressed with what has happened so far, and can’t wait until the 15th. #boycottshutterstock
Post by: microvideo on June 13, 2020, 14:36
[url]http://shuttercounter.ddns.net/[/url] ([url]http://shuttercounter.ddns.net/[/url])
slow but...
Videos and vectors still go up, is it mass uploaders like Blackbox or similar or what?
I don't know about vectors but video was already getting 30% commission. You can get to level 3 with only 51 downloads and to level 4 with 251. It's not affected yet. But it will when customers start getting the new $9 per video subscriptions. Uploads will go down eventually.
Post by: cascoly on June 13, 2020, 15:44
but what shows is the futility of any boycott -- even removing 2 million images would only reduce the total by 1%. no one will notice. delete 20 million and SS will replace them quickly (and no portfolio consists of all best sellers - likely 20% of a portfolio produces 80% of income)
delete your images for other reasons, but don't imagine it will affect SS at all.
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I was encouraged to see the figure for uploaded images per week fall from 1.6M on 1 June to below 1M today, probably more important than the total number in the collection as much content ages quickly.
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So a boycott is not going to make a difference to searches for “happy smiley people doing happy smiley things” or “isolated tomato”. It will be the specific images missing from SS, because it covered almost everything and everywhere, and these will not be instantly replaced by image factories, rather than the generic which will be their undoing as the result of frustration on the part of buyers.
what does a drop in images uploaded have to do with images DELETED? - w worldwide lockdowns (esp asia & russia), it's not unexpected to see fewer images being produced
how do you know 2 million QUALITY images have been deleted? (or importantly, quality images that are actually SELLING?)
Removing 2 million QUALITY images will leave massive holes in the collection, ...
...And the images that are disappearing are being replaced with mostly similars garbage. ...
and you know this HOW? how many images leaving are those that weren't selling (or even [shocking!], 'similars garbage')
Post by: Shelma1 on June 13, 2020, 17:11
but what shows is the futility of any boycott -- even removing 2 million images would only reduce the total by 1%. no one will notice. delete 20 million and SS will replace them quickly (and no portfolio consists of all best sellers - likely 20% of a portfolio produces 80% of income)
delete your images for other reasons, but don't imagine it will affect SS at all.
...
I was encouraged to see the figure for uploaded images per week fall from 1.6M on 1 June to below 1M today, probably more important than the total number in the collection as much content ages quickly.
...
So a boycott is not going to make a difference to searches for “happy smiley people doing happy smiley things” or “isolated tomato”. It will be the specific images missing from SS, because it covered almost everything and everywhere, and these will not be instantly replaced by image factories, rather than the generic which will be their undoing as the result of frustration on the part of buyers.
what does a drop in images uploaded have to do with images DELETED? - w worldwide lockdowns (esp asia & russia), it's not unexpected to see fewer images being produced
how do you know 2 million QUALITY images have been deleted? (or importantly, quality images that are actually SELLING?)
Removing 2 million QUALITY images will leave massive holes in the collection, ...
...And the images that are disappearing are being replaced with mostly similars garbage. ...
and you know this HOW? how many images leaving are those that weren't selling (or even [shocking!], 'similars garbage')
Seriously? Even if fewer images are being produced, the numbers would still be going up, not down. I would venture to guess that with lockdown vector artists, for example, would have more free time to sit in their PJs drawing stuff. That might be why, even though many vector artists have turned off their ports, vector numbers have remained steady.
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on June 13, 2020, 18:14
...what does a drop in images uploaded have to do with images DELETED? - w worldwide lockdowns (esp asia & russia), it's not unexpected to see fewer images being produced
...how do you know 2 million QUALITY images have been deleted? (or importantly, quality images that are actually SELLING?)
...and you know this HOW? how many images leaving are those that weren't selling (or even [shocking!], 'similars garbage')
You know as well as I do that Shutterstock has been piling on the images with little regard to quality for a few years now. However that's not really the point with respect to #BoycottShutterstock.
Shutterstock reports images "added daily" and "added weekly" and those numbers have been dropping. They didn't start dropping when the pandemic started. They started dropping after their May 26 announcement of royalty cuts.
And I've tracked a bunch of data from the Wayback Machine that's part of the Internet Archive, if your next question is how do I know that
As far as the deleted images, we know quantities but I'll grant you that even the large portfolios (hundreds of thousands, tens of thousands) with great saleable images have a clunker or two in them. All of us have that. I know about the portfolios because the people boycotting have been telling me and I've been tweeting about them. I've looked at the work that's going and there's lots of really great work.
I have also been tracking the new uploads, both quantities and quality and he's telling you it's dreck because I've been finding the dreck and tweeting about it. As always, there are great images in there too.
As far as the dreck and tens of thousands of similars (see this if you don't believe me; there are more like this https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/1271609402131271680), whether or not it's being encouraged by Shutterstock I don't know, but when you look at a page of fresh content for a search versus the "top" images, you get an idea of how useless most of the new uploads are to buyers. For example: https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/1271679920997982208)
If you want to throw rocks, get better data first. I'd actually prefer it if you didn't throw rocks. You could join #BoycottShutterstock or not, but if not, why not leave us to it?
Post by: cathyslife on June 13, 2020, 21:51
...what does a drop in images uploaded have to do with images DELETED? - w worldwide lockdowns (esp asia & russia), it's not unexpected to see fewer images being produced
...how do you know 2 million QUALITY images have been deleted? (or importantly, quality images that are actually SELLING?)
...and you know this HOW? how many images leaving are those that weren't selling (or even [shocking!], 'similars garbage')
You know as well as I do that Shutterstock has been piling on the images with little regard to quality for a few years now. However that's not really the point with respect to #BoycottShutterstock.
Shutterstock reports images "added daily" and "added weekly" and those numbers have been dropping. They didn't start dropping when the pandemic started. They started dropping after their May 26 announcement of royalty cuts.
And I've tracked a bunch of data from the Wayback Machine that's part of the Internet Archive, if your next question is how do I know that
As far as the deleted images, we know quantities but I'll grant you that even the large portfolios (hundreds of thousands, tens of thousands) with great saleable images have a clunker or two in them. All of us have that. I know about the portfolios because the people boycotting have been telling me and I've been tweeting about them. I've looked at the work that's going and there's lots of really great work.
I have also been tracking the new uploads, both quantities and quality and he's telling you it's dreck because I've been finding the dreck and tweeting about it. As always, there are great images in there too.
As far as the dreck and tens of thousands of similars (see this if you don't believe me; there are more like this https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/1271609402131271680 (https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/1271609402131271680)), whether or not it's being encouraged by Shutterstock I don't know, but when you look at a page of fresh content for a search versus the "top" images, you get an idea of how useless most of the new uploads are to buyers. For example: https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/1271679920997982208 (https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/1271679920997982208))
If you want to throw rocks, get better data first. I'd actually prefer it if you didn't throw rocks. You could join #BoycottShutterstock or not, but if not, why not leave us to it?
Thanks for explaining that way better than I could have. The data’s all there, he just needs to read. LOL
Post by: Les on June 13, 2020, 22:34
Post by: NeonRobot on June 13, 2020, 23:56
Post by: cobalt on June 14, 2020, 08:30
https://www.shutterstock.com/de/search?sort=newest&image_type=photo (https://www.shutterstock.com/de/search?sort=newest&image_type=photo)
It has just been 19 days since they announced the new rates.
Many people do very good quality, but just part time. Every day you have people coming in asking what happened, why the 10 cents? Especially the non English language communities, it takes a while to cross language barriers.
Can you imagine what the uploads will look like in 6 weeks??
But long before then, the customers will notice.
Post by: peuceta on June 14, 2020, 17:04
I just disabled the sale of my photos (around 3,000) and my videos (around 600).
Although my portfolio is very small, I hope to be able to help give a little shake to the SS leadership.
Post by: marthamarks on June 14, 2020, 18:13
Ciao,
I just disabled the sale of my photos (around 3,000) and my videos (around 600).
Although my portfolio is very small, I hope to be able to help give a little shake to the SS leadership.
Your portfolio is about the same size as mine, which I shut off at SS on May 31.
Neither one of us is a big loss to SS, but together we double our impact on them.
Nice work, partner! ;D
Post by: cascoly on June 14, 2020, 19:14
Shutterstock reports images "added daily" and "added weekly" and those numbers have been dropping. They didn't start dropping when the pandemic started. They started dropping after their May 26 announcement of royalty cuts....
as always, correlation is not causation - the pandemic has been a rolling disaster (eg unemployment stats also exploded in May)
Post by: Les on June 14, 2020, 19:23
Hi guys. Russian contributors made the NEW petition to Shutterstock against new royalty system. Hope you can support it: https://www.change.org/p/change-the-humiliating-system-of-royalties-for-shutterstock-contributors (https://www.change.org/p/change-the-humiliating-system-of-royalties-for-shutterstock-contributors)
Also they plan to massive opt-out their accounts at June 15th. Please join and share!
Would be a good time to start RussianStock. With rents and salaries below the NY rates, the new Russia-based stock company could afford to raise artist commissions and be still quite profitable.
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on June 14, 2020, 21:18
Shutterstock reports images "added daily" and "added weekly" and those numbers have been dropping. They didn't start dropping when the pandemic started. They started dropping after their May 26 announcement of royalty cuts....
as always, correlation is not causation - the pandemic has been a rolling disaster (eg unemployment stats also exploded in May)
There's an odd correlation that over 3.3 million fewer images are in Shutterstock's collection now (versus June 1). No clue how that could have happened.
Post by: gameover on June 15, 2020, 00:28
Today I see my 994 images online still on sell (https://www.shutterstock.com/g/gameover?rid=268774 (https://www.shutterstock.com/g/gameover?rid=268774)). Anyone else?
Post by: Shelma1 on June 15, 2020, 07:08
Post by: gameover on June 15, 2020, 07:21
It takes a few days for the images to disappear.thanks :)
Post by: vectorsforall on June 15, 2020, 08:19
I'm just a small (yet happy until today) fish in that game but think about it one second, if you multiply such amounts by hundred, even dozen, that makes some Big Big sense.
And now think about the numbers if some way bigger fishes are also deactivating...
Post by: peuceta on June 15, 2020, 08:41
It is however painful not to be able to count on the sales that thanks to SS I was able to make.
A few pennies given the size of my portfolio, but very welcome
Post by: tpack on June 15, 2020, 09:33
Would be a good time to start RussianStock. With rents and salaries below the NY rates, the new Russia-based stock company could afford to raise artist commissions and be still quite profitable.
Another brash Russian-government-run agency like RT and Sputnik? Thanks, but no thanks.
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on June 15, 2020, 09:57
Another odd correlation...
https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/1272547038190682114
Post by: Jens G on June 15, 2020, 10:11
Footage was diabled about a week ago.
I hope it helps.
Post by: marthamarks on June 15, 2020, 10:23
Shutterstock has stopped updating the number at the bottom of every page, but based on search-for-nothing numbers, the collection is down over 4.5 million since June 1!
Another odd correlation...
https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/1272547038190682114
That's great news, Jo Ann. Proves we do still have some power.
Thanks for keeping us all informed.
Post by: rene on June 15, 2020, 11:04
" I can't buy your image although I can see it. Screenshot attached - an error above of the image is shown...
But this means that the amount of images displayed in the database is far from correct.
It also means that there will be more frustrated buyers who want to buy an image but can't, which is certainly annoying.
Additional to that it means that the communication effort for the staff at the moment could be gigantic if more and more buyers have to contact support because they want to have exactly this image. Or the buyers are fed up at some point and buy somewhere else..."
Post by: r2d2 on June 15, 2020, 11:12
Someone has highlighted an interesting aspect of slow fading of disabled images :
" I can't buy your image although I can see it. Screenshot attached - an error above of the image is shown...
But this means that the amount of images displayed in the database is far from correct.
It also means that there will be more frustrated buyers who want to buy an image but can't, which is certainly annoying.
Additional to that it means that the communication effort for the staff at the moment could be gigantic if more and more buyers have to contact support because they want to have exactly this image. Or the buyers are fed up at some point and buy somewhere else..."
interessting... The right time to ask the support stupid time consuming things...
Post by: steheap on June 15, 2020, 11:33
Steve
Post by: marthamarks on June 15, 2020, 11:58
I guess we could open buyer accounts and keep asking why an image isn't available?
Steve
Brilliant idea!
And actually, I already have a buyer's account from a decade or so ago. Maybe it's time to go shopping for **exactly the image I planned to download but now can't find!!!** ;D
Post by: trek on June 15, 2020, 12:15
Post by: marthamarks on June 15, 2020, 12:35
I guess we could open buyer accounts and keep asking why an image isn't available?
Steve
Brilliant idea!
And actually, I already have a buyer's account from a decade or so ago. Maybe it's time to go shopping for **exactly the image I planned to download but now can't find!!!** ;D
So… I just went into my SS Buyer's account and found it entirely in German, which I don't read.
Hmmm. More hanky-panky from SS? Messing with my mind, or something??
I'm sure there's a way to change that, but I have no idea.
Can somebody here tell me how to switch the language I'm seeing there from German to English?
Post by: Uncle Pete on June 15, 2020, 12:41
Shutterstock has stopped updating the number at the bottom of every page, but based on search-for-nothing numbers, the collection is down over 4.5 million since June 1!
Another odd correlation...
https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/1272547038190682114 (https://twitter.com/joannsnover/status/1272547038190682114)
You don't have to read the number at the bottom of the page, which was suspect in the past, sometimes updated, sometimes not.
https://www.shutterstock.com/search (https://www.shutterstock.com/search) and enter nothing. Search: 321,985,595 stock photos, vectors, and illustrations are available royalty-free.
While bottom of the page says: Over 324,009,728 royalty-free images with 993,927 new stock images added weekly.
Sorry to add something that doesn't agree with the dropping numbers, assumed that all are caused by people leaving. Phil and I both noticed drops of millions of images, earlier this year. Before the commission change.
Just because no one else was watching or tracking back then, doesn't mean nothing happened. There were big drops.
Post by: Dumc on June 15, 2020, 12:43
I guess we could open buyer accounts and keep asking why an image isn't available?
Steve
Brilliant idea!
And actually, I already have a buyer's account from a decade or so ago. Maybe it's time to go shopping for **exactly the image I planned to download but now can't find!!!** ;D
So… I just went into my SS Buyer's account and found it entirely in German, which I don't read.
Hmmm. More hanky-panky from SS? Messing with my mind, or something??
I'm sure there's a way to change that, but I have no idea.
Can somebody here tell me how to switch the language I'm seeing there from German to English?
Click on one of the photos in the search and go to the bottom of the page.
Post by: Shelma1 on June 15, 2020, 12:56
I guess we could open buyer accounts and keep asking why an image isn't available?
Steve
Brilliant idea!
And actually, I already have a buyer's account from a decade or so ago. Maybe it's time to go shopping for **exactly the image I planned to download but now can't find!!!** ;D
So… I just went into my SS Buyer's account and found it entirely in German, which I don't read.
Hmmm. More hanky-panky from SS? Messing with my mind, or something??
I'm sure there's a way to change that, but I have no idea.
Can somebody here tell me how to switch the language I'm seeing there from German to English?
The same thing has been happening to me...first in Russian, then German. Scroll down to the very bottom of their home page and on the right you’ll see “Deutsch.” Click that and it will give you the list of languages to choose from.
Post by: steheap on June 15, 2020, 13:15
Post by: marthamarks on June 15, 2020, 13:33
I guess we could open buyer accounts and keep asking why an image isn't available?
Steve
Brilliant idea!
And actually, I already have a buyer's account from a decade or so ago. Maybe it's time to go shopping for **exactly the image I planned to download but now can't find!!!** ;D
So… I just went into my SS Buyer's account and found it entirely in German, which I don't read.
Hmmm. More hanky-panky from SS? Messing with my mind, or something??
I'm sure there's a way to change that, but I have no idea.
Can somebody here tell me how to switch the language I'm seeing there from German to English?
The same thing has been happening to me...first in Russian, then German. Scroll down to the very bottom of their home page and on the right you’ll see “Deutsch.” Click that and it will give you the list of languages to choose from.
Yep! That worked. And so easy too. Who knew??? :o
Thank you, Shelma!
Post by: marthamarks on June 15, 2020, 13:33
I guess we could open buyer accounts and keep asking why an image isn't available?
Steve
Brilliant idea!
And actually, I already have a buyer's account from a decade or so ago. Maybe it's time to go shopping for **exactly the image I planned to download but now can't find!!!** ;D
So… I just went into my SS Buyer's account and found it entirely in German, which I don't read.
Hmmm. More hanky-panky from SS? Messing with my mind, or something??
I'm sure there's a way to change that, but I have no idea.
Can somebody here tell me how to switch the language I'm seeing there from German to English?
Click on one of the photos in the search and go to the bottom of the page.
Thank you for that help. Between you and Shelma, I can read the page again! :D
Post by: Jo Ann Snover on June 15, 2020, 13:41
You don't have to read the number at the bottom of the page, which was suspect in the past, sometimes updated, sometimes not.
https://www.shutterstock.com/search (https://www.shutterstock.com/search) and enter nothing. Search: 321,985,595 stock photos, vectors, and illustrations are available royalty-free.
While bottom of the page says: Over 324,009,728 royalty-free images with 993,927 new stock images added weekly.
Sorry to add something that doesn't agree with the dropping numbers, assumed that all are caused by people leaving. Phil and I both noticed drops of millions of images, earlier this year. Before the commission change.
Just because no one else was watching or tracking back then, doesn't mean nothing happened. There were big drops.
I know about the search stuff. I've been tracking those numbers too.
There was a 12,701,237 loss of images on Feb 27 2020 and then the numbers climbed again. I've asked around about the reason for such a huge one-day drop, but other than purges of stolen content, no one knew
I have many numbers (as they reported them, so who knows how accurate) from the Internet Archive's Wayback machine to give context to what's happening now
They haven't updated the numbers at the bottom since the afternoon of June 12th
Post by: cathyslife on June 15, 2020, 14:40
Seems possible that Shutterstock could re-suck material in from their Big Stock subsidiary. Unchecking the Big Stock "partner program" box should be considered due diligence.
Some have reported that images previously rejected are showing up in their port. SS’s attempt to grow back what contributors are deleting! :)
Post by: Uncle Pete on June 16, 2020, 11:57
You don't have to read the number at the bottom of the page, which was suspect in the past, sometimes updated, sometimes not.
https://www.shutterstock.com/search (https://www.shutterstock.com/search) and enter nothing. Search: 321,985,595 stock photos, vectors, and illustrations are available royalty-free.
While bottom of the page says: Over 324,009,728 royalty-free images with 993,927 new stock images added weekly.
Sorry to add something that doesn't agree with the dropping numbers, assumed that all are caused by people leaving. Phil and I both noticed drops of millions of images, earlier this year. Before the commission change.
Just because no one else was watching or tracking back then, doesn't mean nothing happened. There were big drops.
I know about the search stuff. I've been tracking those numbers too.
There was a 12,701,237 loss of images on Feb 27 2020 and then the numbers climbed again. I've asked around about the reason for such a huge one-day drop, but other than purges of stolen content, no one knew
I have many numbers (as they reported them, so who knows how accurate) from the Internet Archive's Wayback machine to give context to what's happening now
They haven't updated the numbers at the bottom since the afternoon of June 12th
Right, most are probably deactivation and closed accounts. I was just pointing out that we have no accurate way to know what's done by SS and what is by artists. I think the current decline and the climate of contributors, we can pretty accurately assume, most are from artists.
And because of the lack of page updates, which has happened before, just a simple search will tell anyone the real number. Which is declining faster than uploads are replacing removals. I'm just trying to be fair and accurate with numbers. Just trying to be impartial with data.
With that, since yesterday, now reading 319,625,324 stock photos, vectors, and illustrations are available royalty-free. Which is about the same time of day as yesterday, 236,027 less images.
Bottom of images is now reporting closer to yesterdays number for me. 321,860,122
Interesting to watch.
Post by: Clair Voyant on June 16, 2020, 16:51
https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/shutterstock-contributors/ (https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/shutterstock-contributors/)
login and comment about how bad they are.