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« Reply #125 on: January 14, 2015, 15:01 »
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I didn't say iStock didn't cut rates or fotolia or 123rf or any other company.  My response was to the person claiming that Shutterstock had never done it.  They have, that's the only point I was making.

What was that? Could you just clarify your point (for about the four-hundreth time on this and other threads)? When did SS ever cut rates?


« Reply #126 on: January 14, 2015, 15:09 »
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I didn't say iStock didn't cut rates or fotolia or 123rf or any other company.  My response was to the person claiming that Shutterstock had never done it cut earnings.  They have, that's the only point I was making.
What was that? Could you just clarify your point (for about the four-hundreth time on this and other threads)? When did SS ever cut rates?
They haven't explicitly cut our earnings,
Sorry, I meant to say earnings.  Edited to fix that.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2015, 15:12 by tickstock »

« Reply #127 on: June 09, 2020, 14:43 »
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Good old days.  :)

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« Reply #128 on: June 10, 2020, 10:15 »
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I didn't say iStock didn't cut rates or fotolia or 123rf or any other company.  My response was to the person claiming that Shutterstock had never done it cut earnings.  They have, that's the only point I was making.
What was that? Could you just clarify your point (for about the four-hundreth time on this and other threads)? When did SS ever cut rates?
They haven't explicitly cut our earnings,
Sorry, I meant to say earnings.  Edited to fix that.

Good old days.  :)

Yeah, before SS actually did by changing ELS to percentage and slaughtering our incomes, now making subs a percentage.

I'm just going to add, remember when nearly "everyone" boycotted IS over changes and unsustainable? Remember when almost "everyone" dropped Fotolia because of Dollar Photo club. The changes at Alamy when we paid for the 10% drop, in order to temporarily add an office in New York, for better sales? What a joke that was. And all the rest who adjusted levels and commissions over the years.

I can't read all the threads about unions, boycotts, post on social media or how to hurt Shutterstock, but maybe in one place, with this, I can ask, how did that work out in the past, with all the others?  ;D

I mean change or the revenge and attacks are all about actually making some change, not just writing on forums, twitter or FB, and watching nothing change.


Shutterstock    61.4
AdobeStock    42.4
iStock               20.8
  exclusive        87.5
Alamy              8.1
Pond5              7.8
123RF              7.5
Dreamstime      4.8

Yeah I see a change, only seven agencies make the list now, not enough votes, hardly interesting earnings. Compared to 5 or 6 years ago when the list was much longer. I'd say there's a trend and that it's being ignored?

« Reply #129 on: June 21, 2020, 11:01 »
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He's a billionaire because he masterfully played the game of business and managed to make a fortune off of ordinary people. Bravo! Well played.

I can't quite manage a "bravo" for this guy, who's made a ton of money as a middleman by gaining control of a market and exploiting photographers around the world, grinding their margins to dust and causing many skilled and creative people to abandon the business.  Yes there is some skill in evidence here, but also a very large component of being in the right place at the right time.

We don't have a 'buyer's market', or a 'seller's market'.  What we have today is a 'middleman's market'.    Somehow, I don't feel this represents the original dream of the internet and crowdsourcing increasing opportunities for everyone. 


I look forward to a day when the photographic community finds ways to route around Shutterstock entirely.  That will get a 'bravo' from me.

The ultimate measure of a man is what he does with power and wealth as his true worth is built upon the legacy of his deeds.

Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one would never wish to live.

Greed flourishes by a thousand tiny surrenders to self seeking, selfishness, self interest.

And here we are... Jon's actions bearing fruit!


 

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