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« Reply #50 on: September 21, 2015, 06:24 »
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Whatever the reason, you can be sure that it puts money in their pocket somehow, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it. It sure isn't of any benefit to the contributor. As usual.

I am sorry but you don't know how wrong you are on that point :)


Please, do tell me how i am wrong. 😀

Its of benefit to some contributors, not all but a fair amount. :)


« Reply #51 on: September 21, 2015, 06:44 »
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Wohooo, 2 EL's in a row. Now let's see if this theory about cap is true :)

« Reply #52 on: September 21, 2015, 06:55 »
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I have also a "strange theory". I believe that people's earnings are depending on the area where they are. I read a lot of information about earnings on this forum (and not only here) and I believe if I l lived in Germany, U.K., U.S.A, and so on, my income would have been higher. Also, if I lived in Moldova, Georgia, Syria, etc. my earnings would have been lower.
What do you think ?

« Reply #53 on: September 21, 2015, 08:39 »
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I've noticed the same thing  ???

« Reply #54 on: September 21, 2015, 13:02 »
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I have also a "strange theory". I believe that people's earnings are depending on the area where they are. I read a lot of information about earnings on this forum (and not only here) and I believe if I l lived in Germany, U.K., U.S.A, and so on, my income would have been higher. Also, if I lived in Moldova, Georgia, Syria, etc. my earnings would have been lower.
What do you think ?


I wouldn't be surprised at all if the local search tends to show local artist's work. Of course this makes no sense for most images, but if some bean counter saw some small benefit to it it would be implemented. If you live somewhere far away from most photo buyers that would hurt your sales. I am tempted to change my address to NYC.

« Reply #55 on: September 21, 2015, 14:05 »
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I have also a "strange theory". I believe that people's earnings are depending on the area where they are. I read a lot of information about earnings on this forum (and not only here) and I believe if I l lived in Germany, U.K., U.S.A, and so on, my income would have been higher. Also, if I lived in Moldova, Georgia, Syria, etc. my earnings would have been lower.
What do you think ?


I wouldn't be surprised at all if the local search tends to show local artist's work. Of course this makes no sense for most images, but if some bean counter saw some small benefit to it it would be implemented. If you live somewhere far away from most photo buyers that would hurt your sales. I am tempted to change my address to NYC.

Haha!  for all you know you might just be right on that one. There is such a thing as a geographical search, so why not an area search. The things they can get up to when it comes to tweaking searches are just incredible. ::)

« Reply #56 on: September 24, 2015, 12:04 »
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I too have noticed a sort of capping phenomenon following high income days. But a far more likely method of doing it IMO, would be by simply pocketing the sales once the cap has been reached, for a period of time.

 In other words creaming off our sales beyond a certain level. No need to muck around with search results, and risk negatively impacting on sales. Just cream off our sales.  I also suspect that lower income contributors may well not be impacted by this.

One way of testing this would be for some buyers and sellers on SS to get together discreetly and buy each others images over a few days, and check that all the sales are registered correctly.  Obviously they would have to buy heavily initially to test the cap theory.  If they turn up results that confirm that we are being robbed, then things could get very interesting indeed!!!

Microstock with its inherent smoke and mirrors and byzantine secrecy lends itself perfectly to dodgy dealing.

Shelma1

« Reply #57 on: September 24, 2015, 12:12 »
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^^^ I like this theory. I propose that everyone start heavily buying my images. I'll let you know if my sales go up. Promise.  8)

« Reply #58 on: September 24, 2015, 12:21 »
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Wohooo, 2 EL's in a row. Now let's see if this theory about cap is true :)

I still have good sales after those 2 EL's.

I guess they've read this topic.

« Reply #59 on: September 24, 2015, 12:27 »
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^^^ I like this theory. I propose that everyone start heavily buying my images. I'll let you know if my sales go up. Promise.  8)

 ;) 'buy each other's images'...... zero sum game (less the cream/%age)

Creaming might just kick in for the $.38 folk?

Shelma1

« Reply #60 on: September 24, 2015, 12:52 »
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^^^ I like this theory. I propose that everyone start heavily buying my images. I'll let you know if my sales go up. Promise.  8)

 ;) 'buy each other's images'...... zero sum game (less the cream/%age)

Creaming might just kick in for the $.38 folk?

No, not zero sum, because you need to spend a dollar for someone else to make 28 cents. So as long as you're spending money, might as well spend it on me.

"Skimming" might be a better term for your theory. "Creaming" means something else entirely in the U.S.

As a 38-center, I've seen no evidence that my sales stop after an EL or ODD.

« Reply #61 on: September 24, 2015, 13:03 »
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^^^ I like this theory. I propose that everyone start heavily buying my images. I'll let you know if my sales go up. Promise.  8)

 ;) 'buy each other's images'...... zero sum game (less the cream/%age)

Creaming might just kick in for the $.38 folk?

No, not zero sum, because you need to spend a dollar for someone else to make 28 cents. So as long as you're spending money, might as well spend it on me.

"Skimming" might be a better term for your theory. "Creaming" means something else entirely in the U.S.

As a 38-center, I've seen no evidence that my sales stop after an EL or ODD.


that's what '%age' was about. Sorry thought, it was obvious, I'll let you get back to nit-picking.

« Reply #62 on: September 24, 2015, 15:00 »
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"Skimming" might be a better term for your theory. "Creaming" means something else entirely in the U.S.

Yeah, never heard it called creaming in this context before.  :o

ShadySue

« Reply #63 on: September 24, 2015, 15:14 »
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"Skimming" might be a better term for your theory. "Creaming" means something else entirely in the U.S.


Yeah, never heard it called creaming in this context before.  :o


Common UK usage, but usually 'creaming off'
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/cream-sth-sb-off

Shelma1

« Reply #64 on: September 24, 2015, 15:22 »
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"Skimming" might be a better term for your theory. "Creaming" means something else entirely in the U.S.


Yeah, never heard it called creaming in this context before.  :o


Common UK usage, but usually 'creaming off'
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/cream-sth-sb-off


Lol. Separated by a common language.

« Reply #65 on: September 24, 2015, 15:36 »
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I thought you were talking about "creampie".

« Reply #66 on: September 24, 2015, 20:47 »
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Error.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2015, 03:38 by hatman12 »


« Reply #67 on: September 24, 2015, 23:55 »
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in case any other US people are struggling to understand the usage of the word 'cream' as a transitive verb. The Collins American English dictionary is quite clear on the subject:

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/american/cream
Search 'cream' : definition no 12 ..... 'To remove/use etc. the best part of'

« Reply #68 on: September 25, 2015, 04:41 »
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It seems easy to check if cap exist. In my Earnings Summary I see that almost always when I have EL the Total is 10% less than usual (for example if normally I had 100 sales in a day with EL it will be only 90).

« Reply #69 on: September 25, 2015, 05:50 »
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in case any other US people are struggling to understand the usage of the word 'cream' as a transitive verb. The Collins American English dictionary is quite clear on the subject:

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/american/cream
Search 'cream' : definition no 12 ..... 'To remove/use etc. the best part of'



No one is struggling. We say cream of the crop all the time. We just dont use the word creaming instead of skimming. But i will stop diverting the thread now.


I stopped uploading images awhile back and am only selling at SS and FT now, so my sales are dwindling anyway. But pretty much all the scenarios presented are not out of the realm of possibility for me to believe. All the big companies now have a magical "algorithm" that can manipulate earnings any way they like. We arent people anymore, just a metric for them squeeze every last penny from.

« Reply #70 on: September 25, 2015, 09:03 »
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I have also a "strange theory". I believe that people's earnings are depending on the area where they are. I read a lot of information about earnings on this forum (and not only here) and I believe if I l lived in Germany, U.K., U.S.A, and so on, my income would have been higher. Also, if I lived in Moldova, Georgia, Syria, etc. my earnings would have been lower.
What do you think ?

I strongly agree with this theory, maybe SS pays what is reasonable acording with the place where you live, i live in a south american country and i only can earn a similar amount of money to the minimum wage in my country (which it is a very sad amount by the way). Now I'm working so hard to generate new content and upload images every day, but this does not change earning rate.

The general explanation of this is that the quality of my content is not so good or maybe i didnt use the correct keywords and for this reason my earning is lower... but im not sure about it and i start to believe that SS limits earning acording to your country (among other things).

« Reply #71 on: September 25, 2015, 09:15 »
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I have also a "strange theory". I believe that people's earnings are depending on the area where they are. I read a lot of information about earnings on this forum (and not only here) and I believe if I l lived in Germany, U.K., U.S.A, and so on, my income would have been higher. Also, if I lived in Moldova, Georgia, Syria, etc. my earnings would have been lower.
What do you think ?

I strongly agree with this theory, maybe SS pays what is reasonable acording with the place where you live, i live in a south american country and i only can earn a similar amount of money to the minimum wage in my country (which it is a very sad amount by the way). Now I'm working so hard to generate new content and upload images every day, but this does not change earning rate.

The general explanation of this is that the quality of my content is not so good or maybe i didnt use the correct keywords and for this reason my earning is lower... but im not sure about it and i start to believe that SS limits earning acording to your country (among other things).


What can we do ? Or, how we can be pretty sure?

« Reply #72 on: September 25, 2015, 09:21 »
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I have also a "strange theory". I believe that people's earnings are depending on the area where they are. I read a lot of information about earnings on this forum (and not only here) and I believe if I l lived in Germany, U.K., U.S.A, and so on, my income would have been higher. Also, if I lived in Moldova, Georgia, Syria, etc. my earnings would have been lower.
What do you think ?

I strongly agree with this theory, maybe SS pays what is reasonable acording with the place where you live, i live in a south american country and i only can earn a similar amount of money to the minimum wage in my country (which it is a very sad amount by the way). Now I'm working so hard to generate new content and upload images every day, but this does not change earning rate.

The general explanation of this is that the quality of my content is not so good or maybe i didnt use the correct keywords and for this reason my earning is lower... but im not sure about it and i start to believe that SS limits earning acording to your country (among other things).


What can we do ? Or, how we can be pretty sure?

Good question Sebalos, i really dont know...

I still have the hope of earn similar amounts that some users report (2k per month or more) which is almost impossible to earn working in my country...
« Last Edit: September 25, 2015, 09:23 by Mrblues101 »

« Reply #73 on: September 25, 2015, 09:37 »
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Quote

I still have the hope of earn similar amounts that some users report (2k per month or more) which is almost impossible to earn working in my country...

I have same feeling. I'm pretty sure that if I ask someone what is my monthly revenue, he will say much more that actually is. Of course, if he is from a country with high living standard.

Shelma1

« Reply #74 on: September 25, 2015, 09:47 »
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in case any other US people are struggling to understand the usage of the word 'cream' as a transitive verb. The Collins American English dictionary is quite clear on the subject:

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/american/cream
Search 'cream' : definition no 12 ..... 'To remove/use etc. the best part of'


As John Travolta so eloquently puts it in "Greased Lightning:"

Go Greased Lightning, you're burning up the quarter mile
(Greased Lightning, go Greased Lightning)
Go Greased Lightning, you're coasting through the heat lap trials
(Greased Lightning, go Greased Lightning)
You are supreme, the chicks'll cream for Greased Lightning
(Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go)

It has a sexual connotation in the U.S.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK63eUyk-iM


 

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