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Phadrea

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« Reply #150 on: July 23, 2018, 18:12 »
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I got my expected and controlled 3 sales adding up to a pathetic $1.08. Yep, it's def rigged for sure.


« Reply #151 on: July 23, 2018, 19:05 »
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I got my expected and controlled 3 sales adding up to a pathetic $1.08. Yep, it's def rigged for sure.

I'm so sorry for you, man! Not for your microstock performance, but genuinely, really, for your well being!  :(

Seeing your troubled performance on this forum makes me sad. Get some help, man!
« Last Edit: July 23, 2018, 19:26 by Zero Talent »

« Reply #152 on: July 24, 2018, 00:10 »
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Yada,yada,Yada...perfect name, like who cares..... must have been a bad critique.And I do have More experience than you will EVER have with that closed,Twisted,VILE Mind. Back to ignore. Do you ever have anything constructive to say or just follow me and others around... I helped more Folks with Talent in 24 Hours than you ever have or will....EVER. PERIOD. your post is reported.Your a real piece of work man. Or Miss Yada whatever BS......

Classic anonymous name.My Name is Laurin Rinder. Google My name, then google yours. IDIOT!!!!! I did more with my life By the time I was 18 than you ever will.Have I and do I promote Myself? hell yes and those who don't are gonna fail in the Long run. so, Stay negative man, Whatever you do. I'll take the High road. I won't read your answer or your Rant, I see a crack in a door, I don't wonder whats on the other side,,,,I just knock the * thing down.
I have a copy Of all 55.650 Posts I did On SS and Im working On a book.Theres no place on MSG for me anymore with people filled with anger  Like you and a few others and some that are long gone..

We used to discuss. long time ago I guess. Goodbye everyone. I'll go private. much better and cleaner. No Psycho zone.I get enough people telling me everyday what was said anyway.Note to anyone....pls...no more I don't care. Some great Ones here. are gone.newbs without a clue what this is supposed to be Just Like Stock forums . and some great Old timers also that say it like it is. Thanks .

Bye, Bye. Gee maybe I'll come back as anonymous and get away with hate.... Naw. I gotta make money. Hate don't pay well. Hope you guys figure out this controlled revenue thing.I have enough folks to talk about this privately.
Thanks Yada for killing a possible meaningful Discussion that required experience.

Homie don't Play this game.

derek

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« Reply #153 on: July 24, 2018, 01:05 »
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Rigged!!  haha! yes indeed! the size of your portfolio is completely irrelevant! you can have 30K images full of crap right. Its all about your monthly earnings. If youre used to earnig over 2500 dollars a month chances are youre included in this what we call "oldies capped earnings".  if youre earnings are just around 1000 then youre not important enough and most people here have never experienced this capping business.
Lets face it whats the point in capping some poor sod with a 500/month payout!

As an x-employee told me when we went to the Pub and whos been working with them since the day they were launched and whom I've known from the old Image-Bank from the film days. He said " you got to give everyone a bite of the cherry or else people lose incentive"....at the time I thought sure thats logic. What I didnt know was the precidure of robbing earnings from one portfolio and give to another!...and hear, hear this was back in 2014..or that other lunatic Scott!!  remember him who ended up in a Row with everybody on their own forum, he got the boot and in leaving he got som 50 members banned for life from their own forum. Nice people arent they.

Now its all over the suits moved in the bean-counters took their desks and now its just an ordinary run of the mill microstock agency no moe no less.

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« Reply #154 on: July 24, 2018, 04:15 »
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I got my expected and controlled 3 sales adding up to a pathetic $1.08. Yep, it's def rigged for sure.

I'm noticing a bit of a trend here. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that if you'd got 'expected and controlled 30 sales, adding up to a non-pathetic $100.80' then you wouldn't think it was controlled? Or you would, but you'd be less likely to complain about it. It seems to be low sales or dropping sales that bring about this belief that sales are controlled. Is there anyone with high or increasing sales that believes that sales are controlled? 

« Reply #155 on: July 24, 2018, 04:58 »
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I got my expected and controlled 3 sales adding up to a pathetic $1.08. Yep, it's def rigged for sure.

I'm noticing a bit of a trend here. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that if you'd got 'expected and controlled 30 sales, adding up to a non-pathetic $100.80' then you wouldn't think it was controlled? Or you would, but you'd be less likely to complain about it. It seems to be low sales or dropping sales that bring about this belief that sales are controlled. Is there anyone with high or increasing sales that believes that sales are controlled?
Exactly who's to say the "cap" is not artificially inflating the income of established contributors?

Phadrea

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« Reply #156 on: July 24, 2018, 04:59 »
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Yada,yada,Yada...perfect name, like who cares..... must have been a bad critique.And I do have More experience than you will EVER have with that closed,Twisted,VILE Mind. Back to ignore. Do you ever have anything constructive to say or just follow me and others around... I helped more Folks with Talent in 24 Hours than you ever have or will....EVER. PERIOD. your post is reported.Your a real piece of work man. Or Miss Yada whatever BS......

Classic anonymous name.My Name is Laurin Rinder. Google My name, then google yours. IDIOT!!!!! I did more with my life By the time I was 18 than you ever will.Have I and do I promote Myself? hell yes and those who don't are gonna fail in the Long run. so, Stay negative man, Whatever you do. I'll take the High road. I won't read your answer or your Rant, I see a crack in a door, I don't wonder whats on the other side,,,,I just knock the * thing down.
I have a copy Of all 55.650 Posts I did On SS and Im working On a book.Theres no place on MSG for me anymore with people filled with anger  Like you and a few others and some that are long gone..

We used to discuss. long time ago I guess. Goodbye everyone. I'll go private. much better and cleaner. No Psycho zone.I get enough people telling me everyday what was said anyway.Note to anyone....pls...no more I don't care. Some great Ones here. are gone.newbs without a clue what this is supposed to be Just Like Stock forums . and some great Old timers also that say it like it is. Thanks .

Bye, Bye. Gee maybe I'll come back as anonymous and get away with hate.... Naw. I gotta make money. Hate don't pay well. Hope you guys figure out this controlled revenue thing.I have enough folks to talk about this privately.
Thanks Yada for killing a possible meaningful Discussion that required experience.

Homie don't Play this game.

Reporting to the moderator does zilch here. Don't bother, tried it.

farbled

« Reply #157 on: July 24, 2018, 09:44 »
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I think there needs to be two discussions since some are saying "controlled" as in modest fluctuations, and others are saying zero fluctuations. Two very different things.

« Reply #158 on: July 24, 2018, 09:52 »
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I think there needs to be two discussions since some are saying "controlled" as in modest fluctuations, and others are saying zero fluctuations. Two very different things.
They are both controlled the only difference between the degree of control....if there were a seperate thread for every type of control being theorised about we would soon have more threads than members of the group.

farbled

« Reply #159 on: July 24, 2018, 10:28 »
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Fair point. This thread seems more about fluctuations in income than static income, so I will bow out.

« Reply #160 on: July 24, 2018, 12:19 »
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Yada,yada,Yada...perfect name, like who cares..... must have been a bad critique.And I do have More experience than you will EVER have with that closed,Twisted,VILE Mind. Back to ignore. Do you ever have anything constructive to say or just follow me and others around... I helped more Folks with Talent in 24 Hours than you ever have or will....EVER. PERIOD. your post is reported.Your a real piece of work man. Or Miss Yada whatever BS......

Classic anonymous name.My Name is Laurin Rinder. Google My name, then google yours. IDIOT!!!!! I did more with my life By the time I was 18 than you ever will.Have I and do I promote Myself? hell yes and those who don't are gonna fail in the Long run. so, Stay negative man, Whatever you do. I'll take the High road. I won't read your answer or your Rant, I see a crack in a door, I don't wonder whats on the other side,,,,I just knock the * thing down.
I have a copy Of all 55.650 Posts I did On SS and Im working On a book.Theres no place on MSG for me anymore with people filled with anger  Like you and a few others and some that are long gone..

We used to discuss. long time ago I guess. Goodbye everyone. I'll go private. much better and cleaner. No Psycho zone.I get enough people telling me everyday what was said anyway.Note to anyone....pls...no more I don't care. Some great Ones here. are gone.newbs without a clue what this is supposed to be Just Like Stock forums . and some great Old timers also that say it like it is. Thanks .

Bye, Bye. Gee maybe I'll come back as anonymous and get away with hate.... Naw. I gotta make money. Hate don't pay well. Hope you guys figure out this controlled revenue thing.I have enough folks to talk about this privately.
Thanks Yada for killing a possible meaningful Discussion that required experience.

Homie don't Play this game.

Reporting to the moderator does zilch here. Don't bother, tried it.

Yeah, reporting rinderart for crossing the decency line and shouting at someone with different opinions "IDIOT!!!!!", does zilch here, indeed!
« Last Edit: July 24, 2018, 17:21 by Zero Talent »

nobody

« Reply #161 on: July 24, 2018, 12:55 »
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I ignore quite a few. the ones who have some sort of agenda, who wanna get personal and have nothing really to say of value or, worth the time reading. Some are Idiots I probably gave a poor critique to and Can't let it go from insecurity. Super easy to spot. Same Low class ramble.I express my opinions. I prefer you don't agree, thats where we start a conversion. But personal Amateur Attack Crap just Makes then Look dumber.

OK...Myself and about 30 others I trust have been comparing Some stuff. I still Have good downloads But Me and My friends who are all 12+ year vets here all say the same things and remember. I just saying and talking about them and Myself on the topic of "controlled Income"...This is not a tinfoil Hat suspicion.........
Why is it that with a port of 6800 Fairly good Images, I sell the exact same amount every day day....7 Days a week and so are My friends. Not all But the majority....
AND they are basically the same Images uploaded the same time give or take 6 Months.


The Chances of this happening are pretty Rare to say the least. So,,Manipulation of sales. I, Honestly can't think of another scenario .
Now, you wanna discuss? or get personal? If personal and ya wanna say some crap. go somewhere else. your Probably Ignored anyway. thats what Im seeing. Any thoughts? Newbies don't apply Please. Love ya but......Please. get some history and experience.

And....If this does apply to you Please Send me a PM and email so we can stay in touch. Im not anonymous, I don't hide. I say what I feel.And I don't run........

At last, a voice of sanity. I agree with all you say, especially the trolling.


You've been fooled, now you call his make believe world, sanity?  :o

Maybe in a parallel universe  8)





« Reply #162 on: July 24, 2018, 15:16 »
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Maybe in a parallel universe  8)

Which of course we are, all eventualities are possible, I have proof, Trump got elected President of the USA and I still don't understand how that is possible, even for a man like Putin.

« Reply #163 on: July 25, 2018, 06:42 »
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Yada,yada,Yada...perfect name, like who cares..... must have been a bad critique.And I do have More experience than you will EVER have with that closed,Twisted,VILE Mind. Back to ignore. Do you ever have anything constructive to say or just follow me and others around... I helped more Folks with Talent in 24 Hours than you ever have or will....EVER. PERIOD. your post is reported.Your a real piece of work man. Or Miss Yada whatever BS......

Classic anonymous name.My Name is Laurin Rinder. Google My name, then google yours. IDIOT!!!!! I did more with my life By the time I was 18 than you ever will.Have I and do I promote Myself? hell yes and those who don't are gonna fail in the Long run. so, Stay negative man, Whatever you do. I'll take the High road. I won't read your answer or your Rant, I see a crack in a door, I don't wonder whats on the other side,,,,I just knock the * thing down.
I have a copy Of all 55.650 Posts I did On SS and Im working On a book.Theres no place on MSG for me anymore with people filled with anger  Like you and a few others and some that are long gone..

We used to discuss. long time ago I guess. Goodbye everyone. I'll go private. much better and cleaner. No Psycho zone.I get enough people telling me everyday what was said anyway.Note to anyone....pls...no more I don't care. Some great Ones here. are gone.newbs without a clue what this is supposed to be Just Like Stock forums . and some great Old timers also that say it like it is. Thanks .

Bye, Bye. Gee maybe I'll come back as anonymous and get away with hate.... Naw. I gotta make money. Hate don't pay well. Hope you guys figure out this controlled revenue thing.I have enough folks to talk about this privately.
Thanks Yada for killing a possible meaningful Discussion that required experience.

Homie don't Play this game.

This is not about you, or your reviews, not about you as a drummer when you were very young and I'm sure that was a brave move to go out and do that. The questions are about here and now and microstock. Not 50,000 messages on SS, but the business and microstock now.

You make up anything, like 30 important friends, to impress us, but they don't exist. Tell us why you left istock? You call it leaving and say we should follow, but the truth is you got kicked out and account closed. Why was that? Inquiring minds would like the truth.

Asking for the truth is not a personal attack, you take it that way and come back attacking. Then you block and will leave the forum, like you have so many times before. You've left the SS forums forever at least four times, maybe five. When you get caught, you make up a bigger new version and leave.

If you have proof of controlled revenue, which is the question, show us. I have friends too and some see a big drop, some see flat earnings, some are still uploading and working and making more money. Seems here that a couple of people who never made much, are complaining for eight years, now they say it's controlled income. Someone who only get 3-5 downloads a day, isn't going to see much variation are they.

Tell us what your 30 friends have found, some details, numbers, facts.

And maybe leave off the rant, personal attacks and bragging. Lets talk about microstock and the controlled revenue claims.

derek

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« Reply #164 on: July 26, 2018, 01:31 »
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Yada,yada,Yada...perfect name, like who cares..... must have been a bad critique.And I do have More experience than you will EVER have with that closed,Twisted,VILE Mind. Back to ignore. Do you ever have anything constructive to say or just follow me and others around... I helped more Folks with Talent in 24 Hours than you ever have or will....EVER. PERIOD. your post is reported.Your a real piece of work man. Or Miss Yada whatever BS......

Classic anonymous name.My Name is Laurin Rinder. Google My name, then google yours. IDIOT!!!!! I did more with my life By the time I was 18 than you ever will.Have I and do I promote Myself? hell yes and those who don't are gonna fail in the Long run. so, Stay negative man, Whatever you do. I'll take the High road. I won't read your answer or your Rant, I see a crack in a door, I don't wonder whats on the other side,,,,I just knock the * thing down.
I have a copy Of all 55.650 Posts I did On SS and Im working On a book.Theres no place on MSG for me anymore with people filled with anger  Like you and a few others and some that are long gone..

We used to discuss. long time ago I guess. Goodbye everyone. I'll go private. much better and cleaner. No Psycho zone.I get enough people telling me everyday what was said anyway.Note to anyone....pls...no more I don't care. Some great Ones here. are gone.newbs without a clue what this is supposed to be Just Like Stock forums . and some great Old timers also that say it like it is. Thanks .

Bye, Bye. Gee maybe I'll come back as anonymous and get away with hate.... Naw. I gotta make money. Hate don't pay well. Hope you guys figure out this controlled revenue thing.I have enough folks to talk about this privately.
Thanks Yada for killing a possible meaningful Discussion that required experience.

Homie don't Play this game.

This is not about you, or your reviews, not about you as a drummer when you were very young and I'm sure that was a brave move to go out and do that. The questions are about here and now and microstock. Not 50,000 messages on SS, but the business and microstock now.

You make up anything, like 30 important friends, to impress us, but they don't exist. Tell us why you left istock? You call it leaving and say we should follow, but the truth is you got kicked out and account closed. Why was that? Inquiring minds would like the truth.

Asking for the truth is not a personal attack, you take it that way and come back attacking. Then you block and will leave the forum, like you have so many times before. You've left the SS forums forever at least four times, maybe five. When you get caught, you make up a bigger new version and leave.

If you have proof of controlled revenue, which is the question, show us. I have friends too and some see a big drop, some see flat earnings, some are still uploading and working and making more money. Seems here that a couple of people who never made much, are complaining for eight years, now they say it's controlled income. Someone who only get 3-5 downloads a day, isn't going to see much variation are they.

Tell us what your 30 friends have found, some details, numbers, facts.

And maybe leave off the rant, personal attacks and bragging. Lets talk about microstock and the controlled revenue claims.


Haha! you know there are about two non public large stock-photography forums where only full-time photographers, professionals and also ex-employees and present employees in various Micro-agencies being photographers.
If you were allowed membership in these and spent a day there reading about certain agencies you would probably give up micro photography within 5 minutes, you would hear and read from the horses mouth what is going on and the tricks the agencies are getting up to. An insight very unpleasant actually.

« Reply #165 on: July 26, 2018, 02:11 »
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Yada,yada,Yada...perfect name, like who cares..... must have been a bad critique.And I do have More experience than you will EVER have with that closed,Twisted,VILE Mind. Back to ignore. Do you ever have anything constructive to say or just follow me and others around... I helped more Folks with Talent in 24 Hours than you ever have or will....EVER. PERIOD. your post is reported.Your a real piece of work man. Or Miss Yada whatever BS......

Classic anonymous name.My Name is Laurin Rinder. Google My name, then google yours. IDIOT!!!!! I did more with my life By the time I was 18 than you ever will.Have I and do I promote Myself? hell yes and those who don't are gonna fail in the Long run. so, Stay negative man, Whatever you do. I'll take the High road. I won't read your answer or your Rant, I see a crack in a door, I don't wonder whats on the other side,,,,I just knock the * thing down.
I have a copy Of all 55.650 Posts I did On SS and Im working On a book.Theres no place on MSG for me anymore with people filled with anger  Like you and a few others and some that are long gone..

We used to discuss. long time ago I guess. Goodbye everyone. I'll go private. much better and cleaner. No Psycho zone.I get enough people telling me everyday what was said anyway.Note to anyone....pls...no more I don't care. Some great Ones here. are gone.newbs without a clue what this is supposed to be Just Like Stock forums . and some great Old timers also that say it like it is. Thanks .

Bye, Bye. Gee maybe I'll come back as anonymous and get away with hate.... Naw. I gotta make money. Hate don't pay well. Hope you guys figure out this controlled revenue thing.I have enough folks to talk about this privately.
Thanks Yada for killing a possible meaningful Discussion that required experience.

Homie don't Play this game.

This is not about you, or your reviews, not about you as a drummer when you were very young and I'm sure that was a brave move to go out and do that. The questions are about here and now and microstock. Not 50,000 messages on SS, but the business and microstock now.

You make up anything, like 30 important friends, to impress us, but they don't exist. Tell us why you left istock? You call it leaving and say we should follow, but the truth is you got kicked out and account closed. Why was that? Inquiring minds would like the truth.

Asking for the truth is not a personal attack, you take it that way and come back attacking. Then you block and will leave the forum, like you have so many times before. You've left the SS forums forever at least four times, maybe five. When you get caught, you make up a bigger new version and leave.

If you have proof of controlled revenue, which is the question, show us. I have friends too and some see a big drop, some see flat earnings, some are still uploading and working and making more money. Seems here that a couple of people who never made much, are complaining for eight years, now they say it's controlled income. Someone who only get 3-5 downloads a day, isn't going to see much variation are they.

Tell us what your 30 friends have found, some details, numbers, facts.

And maybe leave off the rant, personal attacks and bragging. Lets talk about microstock and the controlled revenue claims.


Haha! you know there are about two non public large stock-photography forums where only full-time photographers, professionals and also ex-employees and present employees in various Micro-agencies being photographers.
If you were allowed membership in these and spent a day there reading about certain agencies you would probably give up micro photography within 5 minutes, you would hear and read from the horses mouth what is going on and the tricks the agencies are getting up to. An insight very unpleasant actually.

but you are sworn not to repeat these truths you read so you come here spreading crap instead.

« Reply #166 on: July 26, 2018, 02:31 »
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Yada,yada,Yada...perfect name, like who cares..... must have been a bad critique.And I do have More experience than you will EVER have with that closed,Twisted,VILE Mind. Back to ignore. Do you ever have anything constructive to say or just follow me and others around... I helped more Folks with Talent in 24 Hours than you ever have or will....EVER. PERIOD. your post is reported.Your a real piece of work man. Or Miss Yada whatever BS......

Classic anonymous name.My Name is Laurin Rinder. Google My name, then google yours. IDIOT!!!!! I did more with my life By the time I was 18 than you ever will.Have I and do I promote Myself? hell yes and those who don't are gonna fail in the Long run. so, Stay negative man, Whatever you do. I'll take the High road. I won't read your answer or your Rant, I see a crack in a door, I don't wonder whats on the other side,,,,I just knock the * thing down.
I have a copy Of all 55.650 Posts I did On SS and Im working On a book.Theres no place on MSG for me anymore with people filled with anger  Like you and a few others and some that are long gone..

We used to discuss. long time ago I guess. Goodbye everyone. I'll go private. much better and cleaner. No Psycho zone.I get enough people telling me everyday what was said anyway.Note to anyone....pls...no more I don't care. Some great Ones here. are gone.newbs without a clue what this is supposed to be Just Like Stock forums . and some great Old timers also that say it like it is. Thanks .

Bye, Bye. Gee maybe I'll come back as anonymous and get away with hate.... Naw. I gotta make money. Hate don't pay well. Hope you guys figure out this controlled revenue thing.I have enough folks to talk about this privately.
Thanks Yada for killing a possible meaningful Discussion that required experience.

Homie don't Play this game.

This is not about you, or your reviews, not about you as a drummer when you were very young and I'm sure that was a brave move to go out and do that. The questions are about here and now and microstock. Not 50,000 messages on SS, but the business and microstock now.

You make up anything, like 30 important friends, to impress us, but they don't exist. Tell us why you left istock? You call it leaving and say we should follow, but the truth is you got kicked out and account closed. Why was that? Inquiring minds would like the truth.

Asking for the truth is not a personal attack, you take it that way and come back attacking. Then you block and will leave the forum, like you have so many times before. You've left the SS forums forever at least four times, maybe five. When you get caught, you make up a bigger new version and leave.

If you have proof of controlled revenue, which is the question, show us. I have friends too and some see a big drop, some see flat earnings, some are still uploading and working and making more money. Seems here that a couple of people who never made much, are complaining for eight years, now they say it's controlled income. Someone who only get 3-5 downloads a day, isn't going to see much variation are they.

Tell us what your 30 friends have found, some details, numbers, facts.

And maybe leave off the rant, personal attacks and bragging. Lets talk about microstock and the controlled revenue claims.


Haha! you know there are about two non public large stock-photography forums where only full-time photographers, professionals and also ex-employees and present employees in various Micro-agencies being photographers.
If you were allowed membership in these and spent a day there reading about certain agencies you would probably give up micro photography within 5 minutes, you would hear and read from the horses mouth what is going on and the tricks the agencies are getting up to. An insight very unpleasant actually.
So why haven't you given up? "about 2" so is it 1 or 3 or maybe more (or less)?


derek

    This user is banned.
« Reply #167 on: July 26, 2018, 03:09 »
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Yada,yada,Yada...perfect name, like who cares..... must have been a bad critique.And I do have More experience than you will EVER have with that closed,Twisted,VILE Mind. Back to ignore. Do you ever have anything constructive to say or just follow me and others around... I helped more Folks with Talent in 24 Hours than you ever have or will....EVER. PERIOD. your post is reported.Your a real piece of work man. Or Miss Yada whatever BS......

Classic anonymous name.My Name is Laurin Rinder. Google My name, then google yours. IDIOT!!!!! I did more with my life By the time I was 18 than you ever will.Have I and do I promote Myself? hell yes and those who don't are gonna fail in the Long run. so, Stay negative man, Whatever you do. I'll take the High road. I won't read your answer or your Rant, I see a crack in a door, I don't wonder whats on the other side,,,,I just knock the * thing down.
I have a copy Of all 55.650 Posts I did On SS and Im working On a book.Theres no place on MSG for me anymore with people filled with anger  Like you and a few others and some that are long gone..

We used to discuss. long time ago I guess. Goodbye everyone. I'll go private. much better and cleaner. No Psycho zone.I get enough people telling me everyday what was said anyway.Note to anyone....pls...no more I don't care. Some great Ones here. are gone.newbs without a clue what this is supposed to be Just Like Stock forums . and some great Old timers also that say it like it is. Thanks .

Bye, Bye. Gee maybe I'll come back as anonymous and get away with hate.... Naw. I gotta make money. Hate don't pay well. Hope you guys figure out this controlled revenue thing.I have enough folks to talk about this privately.
Thanks Yada for killing a possible meaningful Discussion that required experience.

Homie don't Play this game.

This is not about you, or your reviews, not about you as a drummer when you were very young and I'm sure that was a brave move to go out and do that. The questions are about here and now and microstock. Not 50,000 messages on SS, but the business and microstock now.

You make up anything, like 30 important friends, to impress us, but they don't exist. Tell us why you left istock? You call it leaving and say we should follow, but the truth is you got kicked out and account closed. Why was that? Inquiring minds would like the truth.

Asking for the truth is not a personal attack, you take it that way and come back attacking. Then you block and will leave the forum, like you have so many times before. You've left the SS forums forever at least four times, maybe five. When you get caught, you make up a bigger new version and leave.

If you have proof of controlled revenue, which is the question, show us. I have friends too and some see a big drop, some see flat earnings, some are still uploading and working and making more money. Seems here that a couple of people who never made much, are complaining for eight years, now they say it's controlled income. Someone who only get 3-5 downloads a day, isn't going to see much variation are they.

Tell us what your 30 friends have found, some details, numbers, facts.

And maybe leave off the rant, personal attacks and bragging. Lets talk about microstock and the controlled revenue claims.


Haha! you know there are about two non public large stock-photography forums where only full-time photographers, professionals and also ex-employees and present employees in various Micro-agencies being photographers.
If you were allowed membership in these and spent a day there reading about certain agencies you would probably give up micro photography within 5 minutes, you would hear and read from the horses mouth what is going on and the tricks the agencies are getting up to. An insight very unpleasant actually.
So why haven't you given up? "about 2" so is it 1 or 3 or maybe more (or less)?


My dear Paws!! hehe!  there are actually 4 would you believe but since I dont bother with 2 of them I dont include them. Ask some of the most celebrated and productive and biggest members here instead who together with myself are members, dont just take my word for it!.....

In any case you neednt bother Pawsy youre according to yourself only a part-timer with a hobby!..leave it to the people dependent on photography! hehe! ::) ;)

« Reply #168 on: July 26, 2018, 03:14 »
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Yes I've not seem anyone else mention them. Very well kept secret hope you are not expelled from your magic circle for outing  them.

derek

    This user is banned.
« Reply #169 on: July 26, 2018, 03:31 »
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Yes I've not seem anyone else mention them. Very well kept secret hope you are not expelled from your magic circle for outing  them.



Oh havent you??  what a pity so sad!  but as I said you neednt bother!...they're private non public and thats a blessing!

« Reply #170 on: July 26, 2018, 03:44 »
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Yes I've not seem anyone else mention them. Very well kept secret hope you are not expelled from your magic circle for outing  them.



Oh havent you??  what a pity so sad!  but as I said you neednt bother!...they're private non public and thats a blessing!
I don't bother with unverifyable "facts" anyway

« Reply #171 on: July 26, 2018, 09:22 »
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Yada,yada,Yada...perfect name, like who cares..... must have been a bad critique.And I do have More experience than you will EVER have with that closed,Twisted,VILE Mind. Back to ignore. Do you ever have anything constructive to say or just follow me and others around... I helped more Folks with Talent in 24 Hours than you ever have or will....EVER. PERIOD. your post is reported.Your a real piece of work man. Or Miss Yada whatever BS......

Classic anonymous name.My Name is Laurin Rinder. Google My name, then google yours. IDIOT!!!!! I did more with my life By the time I was 18 than you ever will.Have I and do I promote Myself? hell yes and those who don't are gonna fail in the Long run. so, Stay negative man, Whatever you do. I'll take the High road. I won't read your answer or your Rant, I see a crack in a door, I don't wonder whats on the other side,,,,I just knock the * thing down.
I have a copy Of all 55.650 Posts I did On SS and Im working On a book.Theres no place on MSG for me anymore with people filled with anger  Like you and a few others and some that are long gone..

We used to discuss. long time ago I guess. Goodbye everyone. I'll go private. much better and cleaner. No Psycho zone.I get enough people telling me everyday what was said anyway.Note to anyone....pls...no more I don't care. Some great Ones here. are gone.newbs without a clue what this is supposed to be Just Like Stock forums . and some great Old timers also that say it like it is. Thanks .

Bye, Bye. Gee maybe I'll come back as anonymous and get away with hate.... Naw. I gotta make money. Hate don't pay well. Hope you guys figure out this controlled revenue thing.I have enough folks to talk about this privately.
Thanks Yada for killing a possible meaningful Discussion that required experience.

Homie don't Play this game.

Thank you for the comments, I won't sink to your level. I wanted to ask about the truth, yes the T word is probably offensive to you. Why did istock close your account and remove all your images? Seems there are rumors and versions, what's the real reason?

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #172 on: July 26, 2018, 11:36 »
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I think there needs to be two discussions since some are saying "controlled" as in modest fluctuations, and others are saying zero fluctuations. Two very different things.

Yes and some have also noticed a sudden drop to half the previous monthly levels, then sticking around that number no matter what they do. I'm not one and my sales fluctuate a good bit, that's not saying that some others aren't level or flat at a reduced point. I'm not.

I still think that part of the "cap" is that SS has reaching the limits of sales, there are too many images and too much similar image competition at which point the "slice of the pie" keeps getting smaller, until it's the same thin slice, month after month because of flooded choices and competition. I also think it's natural economics not some controlled plan.

Other agencies just drop and drop, while SS has pretty much gone flat, no growth and income limited. We'd need to have more demand from somewhere or at the least for whatever any of us produce. I'm sticking to niche market and small numbers of unusual subjects.

« Reply #173 on: July 26, 2018, 14:03 »
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I think there needs to be two discussions since some are saying "controlled" as in modest fluctuations, and others are saying zero fluctuations. Two very different things.

Yes and some have also noticed a sudden drop to half the previous monthly levels, then sticking around that number no matter what they do. I'm not one and my sales fluctuate a good bit, that's not saying that some others aren't level or flat at a reduced point. I'm not.

I still think that part of the "cap" is that SS has reaching the limits of sales, there are too many images and too much similar image competition at which point the "slice of the pie" keeps getting smaller, until it's the same thin slice, month after month because of flooded choices and competition. I also think it's natural economics not some controlled plan.

Other agencies just drop and drop, while SS has pretty much gone flat, no growth and income limited. We'd need to have more demand from somewhere or at the least for whatever any of us produce. I'm sticking to niche market and small numbers of unusual subjects.
Correct just look at the numbers SS publish no cunning conspiracy required to produce the results people are seeing.

farbled

« Reply #174 on: July 26, 2018, 16:39 »
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OK, so we reach a level where image sales stay the same month to month without dropping or increasing no matter how much or how little I upload. I have never heard of that before and have never seen it in the more than a decade of doing this until recently.

Weird, but ok. Problem solved. :)


 

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