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Title: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Rinderart on September 15, 2014, 13:50
It seems [Just to me perhaps] there has been an uptick in sales the last 10 Days or so as I watch this stuff very closely. Newer Images selling,More OD's and SOD's and Higher number of subs. Anyone else. a few friends who are Old timers also have said the same. I don't mean it's WhoHoo time but, it feels better.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Valo on September 15, 2014, 14:26
I started a similar thread last week, but it got overrun by childish bickering. But yes, last week was a good week. Today is another crap day though with over 2200 files.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: gimages on September 15, 2014, 15:12
no not for me,one sale in the last 10 days.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Mantis on September 15, 2014, 15:27
volume wise no. but I had a few EL's and a video sale. Subs down and OD seems inconsistent. $1.24, $2.85, $18, $0 all weekday numbers. 
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: stockmarketer on September 15, 2014, 15:35
I've noticed an increase in the past 10 days, for sure.  The question is, is this the normal significant increase we would normally see right after Labor Day or is something else happening?

To me, it looks like the typical post-Labor Day bump... same percent increase as the past several years.  Are you seeing something that suggests otherwise?
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: dpimborough on September 15, 2014, 16:07
volumes are good but the sales are all subs so there ain't no money coming in

It's a crash :(

A train wreck  :'(
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: disorderly on September 15, 2014, 16:17
August was slow, but September is doing very well for me.  Things can always fall apart in the second half, but right now I'm on track for a BME.  11% ahead of my previous best month.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: wordplanet on September 15, 2014, 17:24
Nice bounce back - income and sales volume are back to pre-summer stats. If the sales volume keeps up it will be a good month. Encouraging signs. New stuff is a miniscule percent of sales though, so I'm not very confident about growth there.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Shelma1 on September 15, 2014, 18:56
Awful for me. Same low numbers as the summer. Holiday images are starting to sell, but magically, non-holiday images stop selling at exactly the same rate. I get new followers all the time, but I'm guessing they're illustrators and not buyers.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Rinderart on September 15, 2014, 19:38
Lets see how it works out in a few weeks. Im up about 30% over august . Lots of OD's for some reason. Fingers crossed for all.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: OM on September 15, 2014, 19:44
DL's steady at 400+/month with less than 400 images. Seem to have more subs the last 1½ months and less ODD's. No big SOD's or EL's since July which was a BME (in the 2 years I'm there). Considering the July bounty, I suppose I might have to wait awhile for a month with multiple EL's and SOD's!

Conclusion: Ticking over..neither ecstatic nor consumed with doom.  :D
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Uncle Pete on September 15, 2014, 20:14
Yes!
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Ides on September 15, 2014, 20:21
To me August was better than September on the same period.  :(
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: pancaketom on September 15, 2014, 20:27
My sales have been very odd this month. Last week both Tues and Fri I had less sales than either Sat or Sun. A few quite good days and then a day worse than a weekend. The total $ is pretty good, but less total sales - the OD sales are up a bit - but they are probably not statistically valid - too much of a one off sort of event. Still, I'll take the $ thank you.
I have seen a few more sales of recent files which is nice.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Asthebelltolls on September 15, 2014, 20:44
To me August was better than September on the same period.  :(

Same here.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Elenathewise on September 15, 2014, 23:02
Pretty good month so far, nothing too crazy, apart from one day with several SODs that broke all my records... How do you guys call this - "BDE"? :-)
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: ferdinand on September 16, 2014, 00:21
it gets better with number  of dl - but no sod sales at all 
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Valo on September 16, 2014, 01:05
Just wondering if this could be buyers leaving Istock, and causing an increase in ODDs as they used to be credit buyers at Istock. With the new credits being ridiculously expensive, they might go for the cheaper option at Shutterstock.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: PZF on September 16, 2014, 05:12
Get about one good day per week, otherwise still dire. :(
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Nikovsk on September 16, 2014, 05:55
First 10 days of september were great, in number of downloads and OD's.
But the last few days have been really slow.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Ploink on September 16, 2014, 06:09
First 10 days of september were great, in number of downloads and OD's.
But the last few days have been really slow.
Yes, same here. Since last Friday, sales are back on an August level (which was not good for me)...
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Valo on September 16, 2014, 07:21
Agree, it was short-lived. As of Saturday it is back to being poor.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: PZF on September 16, 2014, 09:25
Bad bad bad and badder...............
:(
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: etudiante_rapide on September 16, 2014, 10:13
Bad bad bad and badder...............
:(

i think the proper word for it is ...
Bad bad bad and badder  bladder 8)
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: DF_Studios on September 16, 2014, 10:26
August was great for me.

This month I sold a video clip that I've been seeing on a political ad every night.  Rather cool.  Halfway through the month and this should be another good one.

I have one images that sells once or twice a day and a few other that sell nearly every other day.  Then a lot of images that never seem to sell.

Bad news was today when I had one of those batch of images rejected for random "lighting" reasons problems.  Seems better to upload one at a time. 
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: stockmarketer on September 16, 2014, 10:27
Sales are up vs August (of course!) but not where they should be.  I'm still down vs. the first half of Sept 2013, and it's clear why.  The amount I was able to grow my port (around 20%) was outpaced by the flood of new uploads to SS and the others.  If you can't keep up with this flood, you drown.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Rinderart on September 16, 2014, 10:47
Sales are up vs August (of course!) but not where they should be.  I'm still down vs. the first half of Sept 2013, and it's clear why.  The amount I was able to grow my port (around 20%) was outpaced by the flood of new uploads to SS and the others.  If you can't keep up with this flood, you drown.

Or learn to swim Faster...LOL!  Im a loooong way from BME, but if it continues as it is, Best month in a very Long time and as a side note DP is coming on Very strong also. Heck of a lot better than FT. Like a 100% better.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: PeterChigmaroff on September 16, 2014, 10:51
Even though sales have increased, I'll have to say no because of the time of year. It should be a lot better.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: PixelBytes on September 16, 2014, 15:22
I had an el and a couple nice sod's but besides that no real uptick in sales.  I'll take it tho.  Any improvement is good.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: michaeldb on September 16, 2014, 18:38
Even though sales have increased, I'll have to say no because of the time of year. It should be a lot better.
Same here. My Sept 2014 on SS may beat my August 2014 a little but historically Sept should be a lot better than Aug. My Sept 2014 will be down at least 10% from Sept 2013, and down 20%+ from Sept 2012. I am not keeping my head above water in the flood  :'(
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Valo on September 17, 2014, 03:57
To be fair to Shutterstock, I have to revisit my earlier comment. Yesterday was another good day. After a slow start, the ODDs made up for it later on the day. And this morning already showing 4 ODDs. Maybe I spoke to soon and it is a good month.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: mojaric on September 17, 2014, 09:06
Obviously sales will go up at SS.... Istock is dead, DT is dead, DP is dead, FT is almost dead....
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Cesar on September 17, 2014, 14:02
Anyone has low sales today? is holiday in some countries today?
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: prostock on September 17, 2014, 14:48
Very low...
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: MxR on September 17, 2014, 16:22
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.   Fotolia wins today
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Batman on September 17, 2014, 17:18
Sales are up vs August (of course!) but not where they should be.  I'm still down vs. the first half of Sept 2013, and it's clear why.  The amount I was able to grow my port (around 20%) was outpaced by the flood of new uploads to SS and the others.  If you can't keep up with this flood, you drown.

For somebody like you that makes over $160,000 a year on micro, how bad can it be? 365*4000*.11=$160,600

After one month at microstock, my daily RPI was 11 cents.  After two and a half years, my daily RPI is 11 cents.  Yes, there was fluxuation... in the summer, it hung around 10 cents, and in the best months like March and November it was steady at 12 cents.  Draw all the comparisons you want to a roulette wheel, saying nearly a thousand days of roughly the same RPI is mere coincidence.  Since your experience is different from mine, I must be wrong, right?   I'll just keep doing what I'm doing, since it seems one of us must be doing something right.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Phadrea on September 22, 2014, 15:32
Dead as they all are now for me. Is earns more than ss for me but I sell mainly audio with them.

*Update*  IS now selling me more images than ss
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: JPSDK on September 23, 2014, 16:08
volatile. No trend seen.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: sgoodwin4813 on September 24, 2014, 07:24
With a week to go in September, sales volume is off about 10-15% from what it was before the summer.  For me, based on the map the reason is an almost complete loss of sales from Europe beginning about the second week in June.  I was hoping it was just due to summer vacations but so far it hasn't picked up this month.  It used to be when I checked overnight sales every morning there would be a big bump from Europe (I am in the US), but since the second week of June those dropped off considerably - this morning none, and the new normal seems to be only very few if I am lucky.  The past four months the loss of volume was made up by more than usual high-value SODs or (this month) ELs, but if those sales hadn't happened it would be grim.  Not sure where the Europeans are now getting their images but a big drop there is what I have noticed.

All other sites seem to have decreased as well so it isn't like someplace else has started to take off.  Total monthly DLs the past couple months were less than the average for last year so it is definitely a big drop.  Whether this is just due to the huge increase in the number of competing images or a drop in sales at agencies I don't know.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Rinderart on September 24, 2014, 11:37
Still strong here. Best month in a year. All others sites ..DEAD. except DP and 123. very reasonable.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Valo on September 24, 2014, 11:41
BME on Shutterstock
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: gimages on September 24, 2014, 12:01
haven't had a sale in six days now. I've got to try and add some people photos when I can. I was told by support to try and add more variety to my port.
I ordered a new lenses for camera a 25mm 1.8 prime to hopefully take better pictures.before my 14-42 lenses just wasn't doing the job the quality just wasn't there.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Pixart on September 24, 2014, 13:30
Should be BMY by the end of the day.  Shame the other sites are not keeping up.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: jcpjr on September 24, 2014, 16:54
Still strong here. Best month in a year. All others sites ..DEAD. except DP and 123. very reasonable.

Same here, particularly all three on an upswing. SS is doing very well.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: wordplanet on September 24, 2014, 17:02
BMY for me so far - got a third EL yesterday which certainly helped.
I had some page one photos that lost their spot for a while but they seem to be back and selling pretty well again. Thinking I may upload some new photos there again.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Cesar on September 29, 2014, 10:17
it will be probably BME, but i have  low sales last 5 workdays. right now is only 25, should be at least 40-50
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Valo on September 29, 2014, 10:24
I have exceeded my BME by 6% and I am expecting it to go up to 10% by COB tomorrow.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: PZF on October 01, 2014, 03:28
Worse than August.
Just better than May and June which were truly terrible.

:(
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Valo on October 01, 2014, 09:04
I have exceeded my BME by 6% and I am expecting it to go up to 10% by COB tomorrow.

13% over BME 15% over August 2014 30% over September 2013
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Rinderart on October 01, 2014, 19:54
over 9 years at SS and just passed BDE. wow.Huge day.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: jatrax on October 01, 2014, 23:59
August was BME by a huge amount due to an unprecedented number of ELs.  September down from that but still a good month.  Number of DLs seems steady, dollar amount varies depending on license type.  September almost all subs August was lots of ELs and SODs.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Valo on October 03, 2014, 07:06
--------------------------------------------- OCTOBER ------------------------------------------------
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Valo on October 03, 2014, 07:08
Close to payout, hoping for another good month, it seems summer slump is really over, although I do not really have big differences month to month.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Valo on October 03, 2014, 08:26
I must be mistaken, I thought it was October, but someone seems to disagree (http://i.imgur.com/UjpkrNx.png)
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: etudiante_rapide on October 03, 2014, 11:51
the numbers to the right of this page says it is. last time i read it was slipping down close to 92, 90.
today it says 96.8 so maybe ss finally got their act 2gether . hope so.

yayyy ss rocks !!!
... just kidding. ;D
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Cesar on October 03, 2014, 13:08
Is today holiday day somewhere?
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: PZF on October 03, 2014, 13:49
Yom Kippur, apparently. Though I doubt that accounts for the amost total stoppage in sales today......
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Cesar on October 03, 2014, 16:10
today will be the same sales as 15 august, sad...
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: wordplanet on October 03, 2014, 18:27
September ended up being my second BME on SS and so far strong DL numbers this week for October so things seem to be improving. (DT and Alamy did okay in September too).
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: eyewave on October 04, 2014, 08:23
Is today holiday day somewhere?

National holiday here in Germany
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Rinderart on October 05, 2014, 20:24
September ended up being my second BME on SS and so far strong DL numbers this week for October so things seem to be improving. (DT and Alamy did okay in September too).

+1.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Jljsxw on October 06, 2014, 09:55
I'm kinda lost.
This has been the SS outcome of 2014.
I do have about 1600 images on my portfolio.
(https://imageshack.com/i/exxWLuE5j)
These numbers represent approximate values.
All Media Downloads dropped dramatically.
On Demand Downloads decreased significantly
Enhanced Downloads disappeared.
All other agencies, where I earned slightly less than in the SS, followed this trend.
What does this mean?
Time to abandon ship or quintuple production to maintain gains?
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: spike on October 15, 2014, 16:10
October looking to be BME... I'm having so many SOD's and EL's that it's not even funny!

How's your October going?
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: PixelBytes on October 15, 2014, 22:47
October looking to be BME... I'm having so many SOD's and EL's that it's not even funny!

How's your October going?

Congratulations!  Mine is about average.  I did have two very nice days last week but now back to normal. 
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Rinderart on October 15, 2014, 23:26
Looking pretty good. was pretty scary for months. Not like it was but acceptable. All things considered.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Phadrea on October 16, 2014, 03:27
Some days good, some days dire. Everything is like digital, either a 1 or a 0 in terms of contrast.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: stocked on October 16, 2014, 14:08

What does this mean?

It means time to option out of the DollaPhotoClub!
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Nic99 on October 16, 2014, 15:30
last few  days is a car crash
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: eyewave on October 17, 2014, 08:40
October looking to be BME... I'm having so many SOD's and EL's that it's not even funny!

How's your October going?

Also on track for a BME, not unusually many SODs and ELs though
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Nic99 on October 17, 2014, 08:55
peeps disagreeing with my car crash, whats the matter with this site? my sales plummeted, who can disagree with that? are you saying i am lying? pff
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Phadrea on October 20, 2014, 04:36
SS is now abysmal for sales. Why it is the top rated here I do not know. IS earning me much more now.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Asthebelltolls on October 20, 2014, 06:16
SS is now abysmal for sales. Why it is the top rated here I do not know. IS earning me much more now.

Herg, you're describing the exact opposite for me. SS is already my BME and IS, if it continues till the end of the month, will be my WME.  :o
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Phadrea on October 20, 2014, 09:01
Well as far as I am concerned SS is dead.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Rinderart on October 20, 2014, 16:10
turning into a fairly decent Month after a few bumps in the road.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Rinderart on October 20, 2014, 16:19
SS is now abysmal for sales. Why it is the top rated here I do not know. IS earning me much more now.

trust that I have complained my fair share But, Bottom Line they are selling more than any other site and a Lot of folks are making very good money. Is it about the work? and commercial Value? Could be......Just saying.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Phadrea on October 21, 2014, 03:16
SS is now abysmal for sales. Why it is the top rated here I do not know. IS earning me much more now.

trust that I have complained my fair share But, Bottom Line they are selling more than any other site and a Lot of folks are making very good money. Is it about the work? and commercial Value? Could be......Just saying.

Well I have been getting steady increased sales for some time and then suddenly (like a lot of others) a drop. that is nothing to do with the work. It's something more serious like Google.

Love your abstract painting BTW. Stunning colours.  :D
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Lightrecorder on October 21, 2014, 04:03
SS is now abysmal for sales. Why it is the top rated here I do not know. IS earning me much more now.

trust that I have complained my fair share But, Bottom Line they are selling more than any other site and a Lot of folks are making very good money. Is it about the work? and commercial Value? Could be......Just saying.
The change of your tune is remarkable. You were always saying you were more concerned about others, now you do well again, and you change your tune about SS?
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: oboy on October 21, 2014, 10:29
The first half of the month was very good, but starting with the 15th of this month, I have a huge drop in sales and referral income. Not sure why  :(
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Rinderart on October 21, 2014, 11:48
SS is now abysmal for sales. Why it is the top rated here I do not know. IS earning me much more now.

trust that I have complained my fair share But, Bottom Line they are selling more than any other site and a Lot of folks are making very good money. Is it about the work? and commercial Value? Could be......Just saying.
The change of your tune is remarkable. You were always saying you were more concerned about others, now you do well again, and you change your tune about SS?

Not that well my friend. trying to be positive. negative is screwing with my head and work. although yesterday was almost a BDE. we either Do or Die. Been around Micro 10 years and it bothers me more that all the work is going to waste. Im selling...Just not new work for Micro.. Luckily, I've never been one to put all eggs into one basket.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Allsa on October 21, 2014, 17:35
October started out great for me at SS, then after the first week or so my earnings took a nosedive. Over the past couple of weeks sales have been significantly lower than normal. Very disheartening considering that October is usually my best month of the year otherwise. I think they must have changed the search algorithm.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: pancaketom on October 21, 2014, 18:04
October started out great for me at SS, then after the first week or so my earnings took a nosedive. Over the past couple of weeks sales have been significantly lower than normal. Very disheartening considering that October is usually my best month of the year otherwise. I think they must have changed the search algorithm.

I must be on the opposite selling schedule - my first week was awful and it has been quite good since then other than the usual weekends and 2 other days.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Phadrea on October 22, 2014, 01:07
Same for me. October started well and after the 10th on nearly all sites I have work (audio and images) sales drastically reduced. I absolutely hate Google because it has done this so many times and I am sure they enjoy ruining small business incomes.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: panicAttack on October 22, 2014, 05:25
my sales completely disappeared this week.

Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Lightrecorder on October 22, 2014, 09:35
Whatever the powers-that-be say (Scott?), but SS definitely throws the switch every now and then. There is no one that will convince me they dont, not even the 16 pager where Scott tries to confuse everyone with a lot of empty words. The difference in ODDs and SODs from one day to the next, is just telling.

Exactly on the 15th this month the switch was flipped and my ODDs and SODs basically dried up. Compared to the first half of the month where I had them almost daily.

Looking at the replies here, it is just true. I was going great and now I am not, and others werent, and now they are, and it all happened around the same time.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: stockmarketer on October 22, 2014, 23:51
I'm seeing consistency this month... none of the flipping of a switch stuff that others are mentioning.  I don't believe SS made any changes this month.  I would see it in my data, and it's just not there.

I wonder if it depends on your volume?  I'm guessing the more you sell the less likely you see wild fluctuations.   

One cause for someone seeing crazy ups and downs... sometimes a single buyer will buy several of your images at once.  You might have multiple multi-buyers one day and none the next, and that might feel like someone "flipped a switch," but in reality it's just normal for SS.

Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Lightrecorder on October 23, 2014, 02:01
Dont you think I would know my own patterns by now??
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Mantis on October 23, 2014, 08:03
Whether there's a switch or not, SS used to be 'more or less' predictably consistent, at least within a tighter upper and lower limit. My experience is like Lightrecorder's. Giant swings. What do I mean by giant? Of course that varies for each of us and "giant" is also defined differently by most of us to be fair.  But lets use some close but fictitious data (so I don't violate SS policy). One month I make $1000. The next month I make $600. That is "giant" for me anyway. But it definitely seems to be the new norm for my port in the last 12 months or so. Other mileage like Stockmarketer may, of course, vary. Could very well be my port, who knows. But one thing is for sure. WE as contributors will never know. We just have to learn to live with it.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: miketravels on October 23, 2014, 08:09

October started out great for me at SS, then after the first week or so my earnings took a nosedive. Over the past couple of weeks sales have been significantly lower than normal. Very disheartening considering that October is usually my best month of the year otherwise. I think they must have changed the search algorithm.
same here about 80% of my sales this month came in the first week or so


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Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: miketravels on October 23, 2014, 08:22
I wonder if ss spends different amounts on advertising and google search etc throughout the month and maybe on different subject areas resulting in getting customers for different things which then affects different peoples portfolios.


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Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Lightrecorder on October 23, 2014, 08:28
How does one go from BME followed by a month making the same as  the month 12 months ago, yet over a thousand more images? Flipping switches I tells ya !
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Lightrecorder on October 24, 2014, 09:15
Please enlighten me why you disagree  ;D

I am 38% down from last month. Did SS change into IS?
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Photominer on October 24, 2014, 09:25
I hit my average monthly total too early in the month, now my sales have decreased by more than half this week and are still falling. I expect to end up well within my usual monthly sales total (+- 10%), as is usual for this year.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: BigBubba on October 24, 2014, 09:31
So far +65% from last month. 550 images in my portfolio... Small.


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Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: PixelBytes on October 24, 2014, 10:51
Please enlighten me why you disagree  ;D

I am 38% down from last month. Did SS change into IS?

I did not minus you, but I don't think anyone disagrees with your stats.  The switch flipping idea seems far fetched tho.  I get the swings too, but they seem random to me.  I doubt there is a plot against us.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Mantis on October 24, 2014, 12:06
Please enlighten me why you disagree  ;D

I am 38% down from last month. Did SS change into IS?

I did not minus you, but I don't think anyone disagrees with your stats.  The switch flipping idea seems far fetched tho.  I get the swings too, but they seem random to me.  I doubt there is a plot against us.

Well, dreamstime uses a "switch". Serban has said publically that it's the only "fair" way to give everyone good placement. Obviously it's not a switch, but something in the algorthym that moves you up and down the rank on a period basis.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Lightrecorder on October 24, 2014, 12:12
Mantis understand it.

I am also not implying there is a plot against us. Words mouth etc.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Rinderart on October 25, 2014, 23:48
So far +65% from last month. 550 images in my portfolio... Small.


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Can we have a link to your work.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: BigBubba on October 26, 2014, 02:18
Sent you the link.
Didn't post it here cause I thing people have seen enough "x on white" photos.  😊


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Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: spike on October 26, 2014, 06:01
Is last week pretty horrible to everyone or just me?

I mean, in the graph which shows overall earnings, there's a small drop, but in the "earnings from new content", it fell to like 20% of it's normal value.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Dook on October 26, 2014, 06:05
Is last week pretty horrible to everyone or just me?

I mean, in the graph which shows overall earnings, there's a small drop, but in the "earnings from new content", it fell to like 20% of it's normal value.
Yes, new content selling less, but overall earnings are the same for me. Must be some sort of Best match switch again.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Uncle Pete on October 26, 2014, 08:36
It's September. At least for my history that's the answer. Yours might be different. No complaints, doing nicely, above the average of any Summer month.

It seems [Just to me perhaps] there has been an uptick in sales the last 10 Days or so as I watch this stuff very closely. Newer Images selling,More OD's and SOD's and Higher number of subs. Anyone else. a few friends who are Old timers also have said the same. I don't mean it's WhoHoo time but, it feels better.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: PixelBytes on October 26, 2014, 11:20
It's September. At least for my history that's the answer. Yours might be different. No complaints, doing nicely, above the average of any Summer month.

It seems [Just to me perhaps] there has been an uptick in sales the last 10 Days or so as I watch this stuff very closely. Newer Images selling,More OD's and SOD's and Higher number of subs. Anyone else. a few friends who are Old timers also have said the same. I don't mean it's WhoHoo time but, it feels better.

Its October, my friend,  but I get your point.  :)

To answer the topic, I am not seeing the usual pre-holiday bump I got in past years.  Sales only slightly better than summer.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: oboy on October 27, 2014, 10:30
Not sure what to do, but I am down to 30% of what is normal for the daily income from Shutterstock. And this now for good two weeks. Soooo not good! I hope whatever has changes that they will change it back.
Title: Re: Curious...Are sales coming back a bit?
Post by: Rinderart on October 28, 2014, 11:32
Welcome to the club...Been slow for some, For 2+ years.