Author Topic: Shutterstock testing new pricing plans for customers (Read 33521 times)

Pauws99 · « **Reply #75 on:** February 05, 2017, 14:37 »

Quote from: niktol on February 05, 2017, 09:49

Despite of a couple of apparent statistical outliers (where the fact that only about 10% of people creating an account with a few keystrokes can be bothered with uploading anything really isn't), the main point which started the discussion remains IMO pretty valid. The US isn't the largest supplier of active stock contributors. This isn't surprising at all. The major theme of this (English language) forum is doom and gloom.

We can ask Irina Anosova if Russians feel the same about stock photography or they are much more optimistic about it.

Perhaps being "poor" is a relative and sometimes subjective term. If defined as the purchasing power of discretionary income, could the photographers living in the West be considered to be the ones who are poor?

Yes I agree with that I would just be wary about using those particular stats.....I may be jaundiced but in my past life I've seen too many people using dodgy data to support their conclusions and dismissing credible data that doesn't align with their argument.

akaza · « **Reply #76 on:** February 08, 2017, 15:57 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on February 02, 2017, 20:04

I think the "danger" is that the higher-royalty on demand downloads get replaced with these new packs. At the 30% tier I get $2.85 for an OD (2/$29, 5/$49, 25/$229).

Why would you buy 2 images for $29 (or 5 for $49) when you could buy 10 for $49? The only thing you (currently) get extra for paying $29 for 2 is one year to use your downloads vs. one month).

I would get paid $1.47 for a download under the trial scheme, a 48% cut in my royalty. That's if they pay by the month. It's worse if they buy an annual subscription, but that's a less obvious substitute for the OD packs.

It's a mistake to think that subscriptions are the royalties with which to compare for the one month packs. For an annual subscription, it's possible that the current 350 a month deal customers will switch to 50, and 60 cents a download vs. 38 cents would be a nice increase. Whether that makes up for how we get scr*#ed with the team subscriptions, I'm not sure

As the Premier Select segregation has all but removed SOD sales (of decent size) for me, zapping the OD income would be yet another cut.

Given the earnings call is coming up and given the attention last quarter to the slowdown in their paid download growth, SS will want to say they're doing something about lower downloads. I'm guessing this is it.

I posted a comment in the SS forum thread on this topic

You were right, my on demand sales fall more than 50% than usual
people will choose $29/month for 10 images instead of $29/year for 2 images
I'm so frustrating, hope SS will cancel their new pricing plan

Microstockphoto · « **Reply #77 on:** February 08, 2017, 18:11 »

think like this, someone needs a few images, like 3-5 or so, he can either spend 60 dollar to get 4 images, or pay a subscription plan for 350 images, its all too cumbersome and expensive and overkill, so he goes to canstock and buy the 4 images and pay $24 with his credit card.

but now, he can buy 10 images for 29 dollar, so he buys his 5 images, and get another 5 for the next blog.

In scenario 1 you would have gotten 0 dollar, and in scenario 2 you would get $8.70

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #78 on:** February 08, 2017, 18:45 »

No one cares about CanStock.

It's Adobe Stock that SS is worried about. Their 10 image pack/subscription/whatever is priced the same as Adobe's. If someone goes to Adobe and buys, I get a 33% royalty; at SS I get 30%, so I'd be quite happy if they want to Adobe Stock

I'd rather they kept buying the On Demand at SS where I collect $2.85, but if that goes away, then I'm better off if the customer buys at the competition.

Microstockphoto · « **Reply #79 on:** February 09, 2017, 01:59 »

i think i didn't make my point clear enough then

Pauws99 · « **Reply #80 on:** February 09, 2017, 03:32 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on February 08, 2017, 18:45

No one cares about CanStock.

It's Adobe Stock that SS is worried about. Their 10 image pack/subscription/whatever is priced the same as Adobe's. If someone goes to Adobe and buys, I get a 33% royalty; at SS I get 30%, so I'd be quite happy if they want to Adobe Stock

I'd rather they kept buying the On Demand at SS where I collect $2.85, but if that goes away, then I'm better off if the customer buys at the competition.

Yes but I can understand why SS wouldn't be so pleased. I'd rather they didn't do it but its hardly the death of Microstock plenty of worse deals for us out there.

sarah2 · « **Reply #81 on:** February 09, 2017, 03:40 »

And at FT/Adobe for 5 pics I'd be likely to get about $1.25 in total at my pathetic royalty rate.

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #82 on:** March 16, 2017, 14:01 »

Apparently the new plans are permanent as SS deemed the trial a success in bringing in new subscribers.

https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/90234-testing-new-pricing-plans-for-customers/?p=1601776

If the first half of March vs. February is any sort of guide, my dribs-and-drabs SODs, all of which I assume are some sort of subscription dressed up with a special name, are right now 3x the whole of February's SODs, but as that amounts to just under $13, I'm not going to get too excited - that's one bad day's subscriptions, so woo yea...

cascoly · « **Reply #83 on:** March 17, 2017, 14:25 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on March 16, 2017, 14:01

Apparently the new plans are permanent as SS deemed the trial a success in bringing in new subscribers.

https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/90234-testing-new-pricing-plans-for-customers/?p=1601776

If the first half of March vs. February is any sort of guide, my dribs-and-drabs SODs, all of which I assume are some sort of subscription dressed up with a special name, are right now 3x the whole of February's SODs, but as that amounts to just under $13, I'm not going to get too excited - that's one bad day's subscriptions, so woo yea...

Feb was my WM in 3 yrs, while Mar is on track for BME. so much for consistency -- in both cases largely due to OD & single sales and older images

Microstockphoto · « **Reply #84 on:** March 18, 2017, 14:29 »

february rocked, march sucks ass.so much for consistency

sarah2 · « **Reply #85 on:** March 27, 2017, 12:09 »

Haven't seen a $2.38 'standard' SOD for days. But quite a few at 58, 77 and 90 c.
OK, better than some sites but still

Jo Ann Snover · « **Reply #86 on:** March 27, 2017, 14:05 »

This month's On Demand numbers (so far) are about the same as January and about half February's.

The new packages - that produce 0.87, 1.47; 0.59, 0.75 - are marginally more, but it's a dribble that's essentially a rounding error in the month's totals.

I happened upon this thread that gives a clue as to the prices Shutterstock charges for their Premier accounts. It really sucks that only a subset of their contributors get to play in that sandbox...

https://www.reddit.com/r/graphic_design/comments/4wmxij/shutterstock_pricing_i_dont_even_know_what_to_say/

derek · « **Reply #87 on:** March 27, 2017, 14:32 »

Steady decline since new year! for western people that is. This business is booming in Russia Poland and Ukraine.

Shelma1 · « **Reply #88 on:** March 27, 2017, 14:59 »

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on March 27, 2017, 14:05

This month's On Demand numbers (so far) are about the same as January and about half February's.

The new packages - that produce 0.87, 1.47; 0.59, 0.75 - are marginally more, but it's a dribble that's essentially a rounding error in the month's totals.

I happened upon this thread that gives a clue as to the prices Shutterstock charges for their Premier accounts. It really sucks that only a subset of their contributors get to play in that sandbox...

https://www.reddit.com/r/graphic_design/comments/4wmxij/shutterstock_pricing_i_dont_even_know_what_to_say/

Wow. That's a low price. When I was freelancing in an ad agency 2 years ago their Premier prices were $250 for web and $500 for print. That's back when we were getting the big SOD's. They must be offering special low prices now. Which would explain why SOD royalties have plummeted.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #89 on:** March 27, 2017, 16:01 »

Quote from: derek on March 27, 2017, 14:32

Steady decline since new year! for western people that is. This business is booming in Russia Poland and Ukraine.

How can you possibly know that?

SpaceStockFootage · « **Reply #90 on:** March 27, 2017, 18:39 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on March 27, 2017, 16:01

Quote from: derek on March 27, 2017, 14:32
Steady decline since new year! for western people that is. This business is booming in Russia Poland and Ukraine.
How can you possibly know that?

Must be on the 'historical breakdown of total monthly SS sales by country' page... which I'm yet to find.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #91 on:** March 28, 2017, 02:32 »

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on March 27, 2017, 18:39

Quote from: Pauws99 on March 27, 2017, 16:01
Quote from: derek on March 27, 2017, 14:32
Steady decline since new year! for western people that is. This business is booming in Russia Poland and Ukraine.
How can you possibly know that?

Must be on the 'historical breakdown of total monthly SS sales by country' page... which I'm yet to find.

Or their "punishment" list.....people who sell too much and are capped, people from certain countries that SS don't like and people that SS are out to get cos they just don't like them.Considering they seem barely able to keep the site running I'm very impressed with these algorithms they produce that do all this and still keep customers supplied with images they want to buy.

derek · « **Reply #92 on:** March 28, 2017, 03:55 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on March 28, 2017, 02:32

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on March 27, 2017, 18:39
Quote from: Pauws99 on March 27, 2017, 16:01
Quote from: derek on March 27, 2017, 14:32
Steady decline since new year! for western people that is. This business is booming in Russia Poland and Ukraine.
How can you possibly know that?

Must be on the 'historical breakdown of total monthly SS sales by country' page... which I'm yet to find.
Or their "punishment" list.....people who sell too much and are capped, people from certain countries that SS don't like and people that SS are out to get cos they just don't like them.Considering they seem barely able to keep the site running I'm very impressed with these algorithms they produce that do all this and still keep customers supplied with images they want to buy.

Well whats the cost of living in these three countries? possibly a quarter of our costs in Europe or the US. So SS throws these countries $.10-$.20 bucks a day and its a small fortune. In return they shoot anything millions and millions of files and uploading like crazy some 50 times more then we can do. These countries are creating BIG assets for SS and that is whats its all about. When your dealing with shareholders then assets and profits is all that matters.

I might be completely wrong of course and they are simply doing this from the good of their hearts.

Pauws99 · « **Reply #93 on:** March 28, 2017, 04:24 »

Quote from: derek on March 28, 2017, 03:55

Quote from: Pauws99 on March 28, 2017, 02:32
Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on March 27, 2017, 18:39
Quote from: Pauws99 on March 27, 2017, 16:01
Quote from: derek on March 27, 2017, 14:32
Steady decline since new year! for western people that is. This business is booming in Russia Poland and Ukraine.
How can you possibly know that?

Must be on the 'historical breakdown of total monthly SS sales by country' page... which I'm yet to find.
Or their "punishment" list.....people who sell too much and are capped, people from certain countries that SS don't like and people that SS are out to get cos they just don't like them.Considering they seem barely able to keep the site running I'm very impressed with these algorithms they produce that do all this and still keep customers supplied with images they want to buy.

Well whats the cost of living in these three countries? possibly a quarter of our costs in Europe or the US. So SS throws these countries $.10-$.20 bucks a day and its a small fortune. In return they shoot anything millions and millions of files and uploading like crazy some 50 times more then we can do. These countries are creating BIG assets for SS and that is whats its all about. When your dealing with shareholders then assets and profits is all that matters.

I might be completely wrong of course and they are simply doing this from the good of their hearts.

Lifes not fair get used to it ;-)

derek · « **Reply #94 on:** March 28, 2017, 04:26 »

Quote from: Pauws99 on March 28, 2017, 04:24

Quote from: derek on March 28, 2017, 03:55
Quote from: Pauws99 on March 28, 2017, 02:32
Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on March 27, 2017, 18:39
Quote from: Pauws99 on March 27, 2017, 16:01
Quote from: derek on March 27, 2017, 14:32
Steady decline since new year! for western people that is. This business is booming in Russia Poland and Ukraine.
How can you possibly know that?

Must be on the 'historical breakdown of total monthly SS sales by country' page... which I'm yet to find.
Or their "punishment" list.....people who sell too much and are capped, people from certain countries that SS don't like and people that SS are out to get cos they just don't like them.Considering they seem barely able to keep the site running I'm very impressed with these algorithms they produce that do all this and still keep customers supplied with images they want to buy.

Well whats the cost of living in these three countries? possibly a quarter of our costs in Europe or the US. So SS throws these countries $.10-$.20 bucks a day and its a small fortune. In return they shoot anything millions and millions of files and uploading like crazy some 50 times more then we can do. These countries are creating BIG assets for SS and that is whats its all about. When your dealing with shareholders then assets and profits is all that matters.

I might be completely wrong of course and they are simply doing this from the good of their hearts.
Lifes not fair get used to it ;-)

haha! " never give a sucker an even break" W.C. Fields!

sgoodwin4813 · « **Reply #95 on:** March 28, 2017, 08:18 »

Quote from: cascoly on March 17, 2017, 14:25

Quote from: Jo Ann Snover on March 16, 2017, 14:01
Apparently the new plans are permanent as SS deemed the trial a success in bringing in new subscribers.

https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/90234-testing-new-pricing-plans-for-customers/?p=1601776

If the first half of March vs. February is any sort of guide, my dribs-and-drabs SODs, all of which I assume are some sort of subscription dressed up with a special name, are right now 3x the whole of February's SODs, but as that amounts to just under $13, I'm not going to get too excited - that's one bad day's subscriptions, so woo yea...

Feb was my WM in 3 yrs, while Mar is on track for BME. so much for consistency -- in both cases largely due to OD & single sales and older images

That's been my experience exactly - Jan was the worst in more than two years, Feb only a little better and March a BME by quite a bit with some still to go. This month I am getting something besides a sub every 5.5 DLs while in Jan it was one out of ten. SODs have ranged from $0.87 to $75 and even had a couple of ELs. RPDL so far this month is $2.58 so can't complain. Without the high-value (including clip) sales though it would be bad as overall volume is about 35% below what it was a couple years ago. Last time I had a BME on SS was March of 2015 so this month is quite something. I am happy while it lasts but am assuming it is a statistical fluke and will get back to normal next month. I don't think the new pricing plan has had any effect as only two of the SODs were below $2.

nicksimages · « **Reply #96 on:** April 07, 2017, 07:30 »

I too can confirm very bad Jan and Feb, and very good March which is my BME
The difference is significant

Mantis · « **Reply #97 on:** April 07, 2017, 08:10 »

March very much on the low end at SS for me. The SOD's are make or break and even harder to get with decent money. Been seeing a lot of very small SOD's. Overall subs way down, and video is down as well. Sure does seem like something changed.

Noedelhap · « **Reply #98 on:** April 07, 2017, 13:56 »

Feels like my port has been shut off in search, I have fewer sales and it's mostly older files.

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