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I have only had a few eds in the past
There are no EDs, either ODDs or ELs and ELs dont come in droves, and ODDs you get a few per day.
I think in general, for all agencies, print run numbers are too generous so users can use standard licences for almost everything.
An ED is an EL AKA Extended License.And if the OP and others actually took a minute of their time and would give a quick look at the anything goes forum on SS then they wouldn't need to waste their time here posting trivial chit!Forum link:http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=8EL Link:http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132419And dont forget not everyone posts their sales so the numbers can be and are deceiving.
Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on October 10, 2013, 10:37An ED is an EL AKA Extended License.And if the OP and others actually took a minute of their time and would give a quick look at the anything goes forum on SS then they wouldn't need to waste their time here posting trivial chit!Forum link:http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=8EL Link:http://submit.shutterstock.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=132419And dont forget not everyone posts their sales so the numbers can be and are deceiving.Thanks for posting the relevant links. For most of us, however, there is no such thing as "a quick look" through the Shutterstock forums. They are so convoluted that trying to find any useful information is like trying to find a needle in a dozen haystacks. I guess if you spend a lot of time there you can manage to navigate them, but not everyone wants to waste the amount of time necessary to familiarize themselves with the ins and outs of the SS forums. I am a bit confused why you would attack the OP for posting a simple question in the relevant forum here at MSG
That's the thing about language, ED is fine except, well, it isn't.
I'm having my worst month for a long time. No EL's, no SOD's, no footage sales, much less than usual OD's and subs are also down. Don't think I've ever had it this bad with the normal ebb and flow.
EL or ED who cares - but they have been stingy with E's of late...
Who knows? Sometimes, part of the secret is what is secret. Alerting people to what they can or cannot discuss would alert the opposition to what they should be looking at.Personally, I doubt that this is something they are bothered about but, even so, talking about it could easily be a contravention of the terms of the contract. In which case the first thing you might know about it is having your account shut for violating the agreement. Paranoid? Possibly. But since I don't gain anything from talking about SS I don't see any reason to do anything that might provide even a slight risk of getting booted.
I don't regard observing a strict interpretation of the agreement as "living in fear" - there's no fear involved. The contract was obviously changed because there are things that they don't want us to talk about and we don't know what they are. If you want to take the small risk of gambling on your guess of which bits of the business they don't mind you talking about, then that's your privilege. Personally, I don't lose anything by just not bothering to talk about them. If it was something that I felt NEEDED saying, then that would be different, but being chummy by giving other people details of some of my sales stats doesn't fall into that category.
Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on October 11, 2013, 06:16I don't regard observing a strict interpretation of the agreement as "living in fear" - there's no fear involved. The contract was obviously changed because there are things that they don't want us to talk about and we don't know what they are. If you want to take the small risk of gambling on your guess of which bits of the business they don't mind you talking about, then that's your privilege. Personally, I don't lose anything by just not bothering to talk about them. If it was something that I felt NEEDED saying, then that would be different, but being chummy by giving other people details of some of my sales stats doesn't fall into that category. Agree again. I;ll just tell the community I am doing well.
Quote from: Ron on October 11, 2013, 06:27Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on October 11, 2013, 06:16I don't regard observing a strict interpretation of the agreement as "living in fear" - there's no fear involved. The contract was obviously changed because there are things that they don't want us to talk about and we don't know what they are. If you want to take the small risk of gambling on your guess of which bits of the business they don't mind you talking about, then that's your privilege. Personally, I don't lose anything by just not bothering to talk about them. If it was something that I felt NEEDED saying, then that would be different, but being chummy by giving other people details of some of my sales stats doesn't fall into that category. Agree again. I;ll just tell the community I am doing well. Yup. And I don't mind adding that it is the ONLY place that I am really doing well at, at the moment (though DT and 123 have both shown some signs of picking up a bit).
As there's an 80 page thread talking about sales in the SS forum, I don't think we should have anything to worry about. I hope they would at least give us a warning if they don't like whats being discussed and I can't be bothered living in fear. Being booted would be a catastrophe for me but living in fear of it happening would be even worse.
Quote from: sharpshot on October 10, 2013, 15:47I'm having my worst month for a long time. No EL's, no SOD's, no footage sales, much less than usual OD's and subs are also down. Don't think I've ever had it this bad with the normal ebb and flow.Ditto
Quote from: gbalex on October 11, 2013, 10:54Quote from: sharpshot on October 10, 2013, 15:47I'm having my worst month for a long time. No EL's, no SOD's, no footage sales, much less than usual OD's and subs are also down. Don't think I've ever had it this bad with the normal ebb and flow.DittoDifferent for me. This month EL's and SOD's have been following nicely. On target for a massive BME if it keeps up (it probably won't!).
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