Author Topic: Whats wrong with buyers? (Read 12916 times)

marjoried · « **Reply #25 on:** May 30, 2008, 19:11 »

I'm sorry but Magnum's post smacks of jealousy. Calling out somebody else's work is low and very unprofessional. Truth is, it's a great shot and if you spend time looking at the rest of her portfolio, her work is solid across the board. If I were a buyer, I'd grab her stuff like a kid grabs candy.

Sure, there are times when I wonder why an image is so popular but, as stated, the customer is always right. There are times I think that the image is badly done or could use improvement. But I would never, ever say anything (unless I'm their teacher). This type of behavior reminds me of how teenage girls are in high school. When they see a pretty girl, they start talking trash about her behind her back. They end up looking like idiots for doing so.

Sorry Magnum but I think you crossed the line. You need to focus on your own work and stop calling other people out on what's "wrong" with their work. If the creator of that image showed up here, I'm sure she would be hurt that you essentially trashed an image she may be incredibly proud of (and should be!).

Marj out!

riffmax · « **Reply #26 on:** June 16, 2008, 09:28 »

I have to admit that on more than one occasion, I have been mystified about the front page pics - the specific thing that repeatedly jumps out at me would be "white balance". Countless times, I have felt that if I'd submitted such a shot (I am NOT referring to any specific photo), it would have never been accepted.

I questioned it publicly once and got the following answer:
"Ya gotta know the rules before you can break the rules".

I thought that was pretty good advice, and since then - when I have seen photos that I personally think would not make the grade had they been my own - I try to study them to see why they DO work and why they ARE featured.

I haven't figured out a whole lot by doing that, but I don't get aggravated any more. I just figure that my limited experience/vision/ability makes it so that whatever image it is - that the skill/ability/vision of the photographer is just over my head!

Does that make sense?

dullegg · « **Reply #27 on:** June 16, 2008, 10:44 »

the customer is always right...
he / she is the one with money to waste...
noise BAD, good composition , bit of noise BAD
lousy boring image NOISE FREE

buy buy buy... don't look at the image, look at the graph...
no noise BUY BUY BUY

get the picture ? (bad pun)
stop making noise (bad pun again)

fotoKmyst · « **Reply #28 on:** June 16, 2008, 10:49 »

Quote from: Magnum on May 06, 2008, 02:20

I just HAVE to complain a little!

There´s a snowboard picture among the top photos at SS. No offense to the photographer, but If I had taken that picture It would probably have ended up in the trash. It´s sharp and has a nice clear sky, but thats it.

- only back of the person showing
- not the most stylish jump, grandma:)
-bad colors clothing.
-snow is overxposed

I can´t belive it sells!!!!!!! congratulations!

I´ve actually start to dig in the trashcan for goofy looking stuff after I saw this one :Q

No link. check most popular images.

it's not the image.
find out who is the reviewer and send a lovely photo of yourself...
with "hey sexy! wanna be friends?"

Magnum · « **Reply #29 on:** June 16, 2008, 13:36 »

Quote from: marjoried on May 30, 2008, 19:11

I'm sorry but Magnum's post smacks of jealousy. Calling out somebody else's work is low and very unprofessional. Truth is, it's a great shot and if you spend time looking at the rest of her portfolio, her work is solid across the board. If I were a buyer, I'd grab her stuff like a kid grabs candy.

Sure, there are times when I wonder why an image is so popular but, as stated, the customer is always right. There are times I think that the image is badly done or could use improvement. But I would never, ever say anything (unless I'm their teacher). This type of behavior reminds me of how teenage girls are in high school. When they see a pretty girl, they start talking trash about her behind her back. They end up looking like idiots for doing so.

Sorry Magnum but I think you crossed the line. You need to focus on your own work and stop calling other people out on what's "wrong" with their work. If the creator of that image showed up here, I'm sure she would be hurt that you essentially trashed an image she may be incredibly proud of (and should be!).

Marj out!

Magnum · « **Reply #30 on:** June 16, 2008, 13:43 »

Quote from: marjoried on May 30, 2008, 19:11

I'm sorry but Magnum's post smacks of jealousy. Calling out somebody else's work is low and very unprofessional. Truth is, it's a great shot and if you spend time looking at the rest of her portfolio, her work is solid across the board. If I were a buyer, I'd grab her stuff like a kid grabs candy.

Sure, there are times when I wonder why an image is so popular but, as stated, the customer is always right. There are times I think that the image is badly done or could use improvement. But I would never, ever say anything (unless I'm their teacher). This type of behavior reminds me of how teenage girls are in high school. When they see a pretty girl, they start talking trash about her behind her back. They end up looking like idiots for doing so.

Sorry Magnum but I think you crossed the line. You need to focus on your own work and stop calling other people out on what's "wrong" with their work. If the creator of that image showed up here, I'm sure she would be hurt that you essentially trashed an image she may be incredibly proud of (and should be!).

Marj out!

My intention was not to cross the line here, but I guess I did in your point of view. It´s hard to get the right feeling to Text.

I´ve been a snowboarder for a big part of my life, and that do a little to it, I think. Shooting snowboarders, and living with snowboarders, watching movies of snowboarders. I´ll have to say again, that I´d have thrown that in the garbage if I didn´t know about stock buyers.

And as I said before. No offense to the Photographer!

/M

tan510jomast · « **Reply #31 on:** June 16, 2008, 14:01 »

I think everyone has a point here.
but we , as photographers / illustrators, have to keep in mind who the buyer is too, for which in most cases, we don't.

it's like the movies and music. which movie or music is the bigger draw?
one with a good story, great lighting, good actors, incredible production,etc.. or something that is marginal?
in most cases, the latter is the money maker.

it's the sad reality. but as some of you point out, we know it's a problem, but perharps, we also have to try to be honest with ourselves.
money is great, but i don't think any of us want to be associated with an image that many of our peers would call "crap".
then again, we need to sell our images, or else no one is going to look at your portfolio.
it's a double-edged sword, isn't it?

dullegg · « **Reply #32 on:** June 16, 2008, 14:10 »

The last time I went to the museum, (which was the last time I'll ever want to

), there were more ppl standing around an exhibit with a toilet seat, and a wall spray painted with 2 blocked colours.
no one was standing around admiring a rembrandt or even a van gogh.

these are the same ppl who will grow up to teach our children what art is.
is it not surprising that mediocrity sells?

paul simon used to sing about this (mediocrity) in the 60's.
so why are we still surprised?

etudiante_rapide · « **Reply #33 on:** June 16, 2008, 14:19 »

Magnum, the answer to your question can be summed up in two words:
"WOOLY BOOLY"

Magnum · « **Reply #34 on:** June 16, 2008, 15:22 »

Translation plz for a viking:) Some words can´t be found in the dictionary....

etudiante_rapide · « **Reply #35 on:** June 16, 2008, 15:30 »

Quote from: Magnum on June 16, 2008, 15:22

Translation plz for a viking:) Some words can´t be found in the dictionary....

oh, if you're asking me what WOOLY BOOLY is ?
it was a song in the 60's. the most stupid song you can ever play. based on 3 chords that even a baby can play on the guitar, the beat too... horrible.
but it sold a million and perharps even more.

no honest living musician would touch this tune, and the writer and group was the worst band in the world.

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