After all the shenanigans at IS lately, I'm not about to complain about Shutterstock's login process. 

Quote from: cclapper on March 10, 2011, 23:58
Annoying? Yes, definitely. Sometimes have to refresh 3 or 4 times. But if it keeps my account secure, I'll grin and bear it.

I agree with you, except I usually get it by the second test even if I have some strange ones.

I must have good eyes (no I don't) or maybe a great monitor? (21" CRT?) but here's the answer and no I'm not bugged. Usually one guess is enough.

One word is easy, one word is unknown. That's how they have us working for them, viewing and guessing at words that the scanner can't read. So type in the easy word and type in the right number of characters or make a guess at the other word, and you should get in. I enter the punctuation, I don't know if it makes a difference or not. It's just a game and protection at the same time.

Here's my winner for the worst ever, that's beyond the ones with greek or scientific notation or symbols, which are pretty bad to start with. This one had me laughing. Not one letter in the whole scramble. But true to the plan, the first word was easy.



No I don't have a big problem with them using it.

I actually got this one once:



How do I even type that symbol?  Lemme check oh wait noone cares I JUST WANT TO LOG IN SO I CAN MASH THE F5 KEY SOME MORE ON MY STATS PAAAAAAAAAGE

Quote from: microstockphoto.co.uk on March 10, 2011, 13:33
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rofl rofl, brilliant!


* edit sth went wrong I was referring to 'hate catpcha' captcha

Quote from: KB on March 10, 2011, 17:17
Thanks for posting this; I thought it was only me!   

I usually have to refresh half a dozen times before I get one I think I understand.

No, no, from what I see most of us have an 'issue' with this captcha. I usually don't whine about such things since they're mostly unavoidable, but I guess it wasn't my day that day. And I'm happy I started this thread - makes me feel better that I'm not the only one who hates that thing.

I hate it! To all who post that they don't mind it along as it keeps the site secure, I have to ask.
If it works so well at keeping a site secure, how come banking sites (like Chase) and PayPal don't use it? The answer is that there are better ways that don't irritate the user base. Somebody did a hell of a sales job on Shutterstock to get them to use this Draconian measure in the name of security.

It will go away one day in the name of progress. There will be a shake up to make the site more professional, and more in line with current security standards. Can't happen fast enough for me.

Someone should forward the URL of this thread to the folks at SS.

Quote from: Zeus on March 11, 2011, 17:21
Someone should forward the URL of this thread to the folks at Shutterstock.

Just sent it to their PR department. Maybe they'll tell them.

Quote from: rimglow on March 11, 2011, 14:38
I hate it! To all who post that they don't mind it along as it keeps the site secure, I have to ask.
If it works so well at keeping a site secure, how come banking sites (like Chase) and PayPal don't use it? The answer is that there are better ways that don't irritate the user base. Somebody did a hell of a sales job on Shutterstock to get them to use this Draconian measure in the name of security.

It will go away one day in the name of progress. There will be a shake up to make the site more professional, and more in line with current security standards. Can't happen fast enough for me.

I'm not sure it's keeping the whole site secure but I am hoping that it's keeping phishers from logging in to my account. To answer your question about why banking sites and Paypal don't use it, I will ask another question. If it's totally useless, why does anyone use captcha? I don't necessarily think that it is 100% foolproof, but I do think it must be somewhat effective.

Quote from: Zeus on March 11, 2011, 17:21
Someone should forward the URL of this thread to the folks at Shutterstock.

Hell YES!!! I didn't imagine so many ppl respond to my little rant. It would be nice if they changed their security behaviours.

Quote from: cclapper on March 11, 2011, 17:49

Quote from: rimglow on March 11, 2011, 14:38
I hate it! To all who post that they don't mind it along as it keeps the site secure, I have to ask.
If it works so well at keeping a site secure, how come banking sites (like Chase) and PayPal don't use it? The answer is that there are better ways that don't irritate the user base. Somebody did a hell of a sales job on Shutterstock to get them to use this Draconian measure in the name of security.

It will go away one day in the name of progress. There will be a shake up to make the site more professional, and more in line with current security standards. Can't happen fast enough for me.

I'm not sure it's keeping the whole site secure but I am hoping that it's keeping phishers from logging in to my account. To answer your question about why banking sites and Paypal don't use it, I will ask another question. If it's totally useless, why does anyone use captcha? I don't necessarily think that it is 100% foolproof, but I do think it must be somewhat effective.

Because captcha is being misused here. As obviously time consuming method captcha was invented to prevent bots from registering fake accounts, writing spam and so on.
It's not developed as a mechanism for actions performed such often as logging in. It's just the wrong tool for this kind of human - system interaction.

PicNiche keeps me logged in most of the time. But it is always an annoyance every time I have to try to dechiffer the captcha.

BTW: maybe this would be a better alternative? http://random.irb.hr/signup.php

I'd rather do a simple math problem Always love math.  Heck, I'd prefer algebra over having to type in long words that make no sense.

Yes, highly irritating.     

Quote from: mantonino on March 10, 2011, 14:42
No, it doesn't piss me off at all because the alternative is them removing royalties a month later for someone stealing images.  So ... choices:

1) easier for bots to login and buy photos = remove royalties a la istock.
2) type half of an unreadable word.

I'll take #2.

You cannot buy anything from ShutterStock with a contributor account.  You HAVE to set up a buyer account.  It has very little to do with fraud and a lot to do with prevent external sites from scraping data.

Quote from: seawhisper on March 11, 2011, 19:44

Quote from: cclapper on March 11, 2011, 17:49

Quote from: rimglow on March 11, 2011, 14:38
I hate it! To all who post that they don't mind it along as it keeps the site secure, I have to ask.
If it works so well at keeping a site secure, how come banking sites (like Chase) and PayPal don't use it? The answer is that there are better ways that don't irritate the user base. Somebody did a hell of a sales job on Shutterstock to get them to use this Draconian measure in the name of security.

It will go away one day in the name of progress. There will be a shake up to make the site more professional, and more in line with current security standards. Can't happen fast enough for me.

I'm not sure it's keeping the whole site secure but I am hoping that it's keeping phishers from logging in to my account. To answer your question about why banking sites and Paypal don't use it, I will ask another question. If it's totally useless, why does anyone use captcha? I don't necessarily think that it is 100% foolproof, but I do think it must be somewhat effective.

Because captcha is being misused here. As obviously time consuming method captcha was invented to prevent bots from registering fake accounts, writing spam and so on.
It's not developed as a mechanism for actions performed such often as logging in. It's just the wrong tool for this kind of human - system interaction.

Correct - the username / password provide the security at login - if someone else has these the captha ain't gonna save you - it's like having a combination lock to supplement your front door key with the combination printed on the door - absolutely no additional security but a real pain to have to do it!!

Simply put, yes. Somedays I just can't be bothered going to the trouble of even logging in at all just to see the disappointing download stats . . .
well no, not really 

No, it´s not the captcha. I can live with that.

I hate the rejection reason: Your image is out of focus...
When:
I used a tripod, a remote control, manual focus and F13 and F16 for the images. 

Quote from: dnavarrojr on March 15, 2011, 23:26

Quote from: mantonino on March 10, 2011, 14:42
No, it doesn't piss me off at all because the alternative is them removing royalties a month later for someone stealing images.  So ... choices:

1) easier for bots to login and buy photos = remove royalties a la istock.
2) type half of an unreadable word.

I'll take #2.

You cannot buy anything from ShutterStock with a contributor account.  You HAVE to set up a buyer account.  It has very little to do with fraud and a lot to do with prevent external sites from scraping data.

Yes I think that is exactly the reason. They only added the captcha after lookstat and iSyndica came onto the scene.

Shutterstock has been less than forthcoming on this matter. Although there have been several threads on their forums complaining about captcha, they have all been removed. A forum search about captcha crashes the site. (Proxy error) Obviously they don't want any discussion about it, no matter how civil.

Quote from: rimglow on March 18, 2011, 13:29
Shutterstock has been less that forthcoming on this matter. Although there have been several threads on their forums complaining about captcha, they have all been removed. A forum search about captcha crashes the site. (Proxy error) Obviously they don't want any discussion about it, no matter how civil.

ROFL!!!! This is just amazing. I really hate this kind of behaviour. I had just a touch better opinion on ss. Not much because most of stocks treat photographers lousy, but just a touch. F... censorship. :/ 

Quote from: ArenaCreative on March 11, 2011, 05:16
I actually got this one once:



How do I even type that symbol?  Lemme check oh wait noone cares I JUST WANT TO LOG IN SO I CAN MASH THE F5 KEY SOME MORE ON MY STATS PAAAAAAAAAGE

Arena,

That is clearly The Sum of all Nens, + Tusis.

Which if I am not mistaken, equals 12.

It's even worse if your on an iPhone like I am now.....

Don

hehe thanks for clarifying that Danno

Probably the most annoying thing on SS. Sometimes I type it in perfectly and it still makes me do it again. Aaargh... Why is this necessary every time? NO other site requires this.