Quote from: derek on February 27, 2017, 09:09
True!  but the overwhelming majority are in countries like Russia, ukraine Rumania and Poland.

Also very strange that the tiny little country of Russia with billions of well-paying jobs has a lot of people searching for ways to make a living online...

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on February 27, 2017, 09:16

Quote from: derek on February 27, 2017, 09:09
True!  but the overwhelming majority are in countries like Russia, ukraine Rumania and Poland.

Also very strange that the tiny little country of Russia with billions of well-paying jobs has a lot of people searching for ways to make a living online...

Russia is in complete economic crisis...the ruble is worth 1/3 compared to some years ago...and  billions of work are available in moscow well paid...try go some siberia medium city for example. You will see that billions of well paid jobs non exist and people earn few dollars. Most of producers coming from there.

My post was 100% SARCASM my friend.

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on February 27, 2017, 08:58

Quote from: Sammy the Cat on February 27, 2017, 08:51
If that were the case why not other countries like Vietnam, Cambodia, Burma, India, China, Peru, Chile and so on.

To have so many stuffed in to a single small country is beyond odd.

"Single small country"... Thailand has 67+ million people (2013). That's more than the UK, France, Italy, Spain etc.

Thailand isn't dirt poor and there are enough people who own DSLRs compared to the average wage. Culture also comes to play. It may have just the right balance between being developed and cheap living.

Another important thing to consider is that Thailand (Chiang Mai more specifically) is the digital nomad center of the world, meaning people come from all over the world to live there and work online. I wouldn't be surprised if a big percentage of them do stock photography to some extent.

U are simply confirmi g what we are sayianag....microstock is possible only living in cheap country. In chiang mai you caneasily live with 30 dollar day if u not look for a fancy life. Same in kiev. In part of russia also possible bu more difficult. Russia is more a love affair with photography wide spread and availability of beautiful girl easy to shoot for nothing. Poland is another country where cost of life is muchcheaper like in romania.

Yesterday i was in france ...i have house just relax walk around and went to normal restaurant. Alone. 4 days. I spend 450 euro doing nothing fancy.

Quote from: increasingdifficulty on February 27, 2017, 11:32
My post was 100% SARCASM my friend.

I know!,, and i explain u wrong.

Huge drop from mid Feb. I had lots of on demand sales which literally vanished overnight. And the new site design is HORRIBLE.

Yes there is^ we might be lucky I know people there with thousands of files and some of them are down 50-60% now thats a lot and especially if you depend on stock photography.

First 2 months of the year SS revenue 32% down compared to 2016, sales seemed to die as 2017 started.

Is it just me, or are earnings for SODs getting lower and lower? Mine are approaching subs royalties. Gone are the days of $100 and up SODs...50 cents is more like it now.

Quote from: Shelma1 on March 04, 2017, 02:27
Is it just me, or are earnings for SODs getting lower and lower? Mine are approaching subs royalties. Gone are the days of $100 and up SODs...50 cents is more like it now.

It's not just you.  The last three weeks for me have been horrible with SS.  Very few SOD's but the ones I am getting are 2-3 bucks.  Very low sub sales, too.  With almost 5,000 assets I am making $13-$16 a day, which is a 75% drop for me.

Quote from: Shelma1 on March 04, 2017, 02:27
Is it just me, or are earnings for SODs getting lower and lower? Mine are approaching subs royalties. Gone are the days of $100 and up SODs...50 cents is more like it now.

Not just you. Today's SODs were two at 67 cents each. The day before, one at  75 cents. Couple of days before that, $1.47. The $1.47 is one of the price test 10 packs. No idea what the others are

i experience SOD sales from 38 cent to 120 dollar, still every month. last month 3 x 60 dollar, and several in the 20-30 range, january 120 dollr + 2 x 90 and several in the 20-30 range

but now i see clip sales of 4 dollar

Yes, I have very few videos online, but had one recent sale for just over $4. Hardly seems worth the time invested, since I did animations.

Quote from: Microstockphoto on March 04, 2017, 08:02
i experience SOD sales from 38 cent to 120 dollar, still every month. last month 3 x 60 dollar, and several in the 20-30 range, january 120 dollr + 2 x 90 and several in the 20-30 range

but now i see clip sales of 4 dollar

I experienced almost twice as much when the going was good and even single sales at a couple hundred dollars but as from the beginning of Jan this is down by at least 40% almost over night. Thats what I cant explain . On the day at almost the identical time things just changed.

Over a cliff big time. Absolutely trashed my sales. I fear this is the law of diminishing returns.

Quote from: Herg on March 06, 2017, 10:59
Over a cliff big time. Absolutely trashed my sales. I fear this is the law of diminishing returns.

In 2010 you wrote this. Seems like nothing much has changed? Did you ever get much accepted at SS?

Quote from: Herg on December 02, 2010, 16:44
Terrible month. Photo sales have dropped every month this year so far. Dec up to now is even worse. Absolutely awful.

7 years of awful trash must be hard. Maybe time to do something else?

Every week, every month and every year some people will write on forums that they have their worst month ever and that the world is ending. Doesn't matter if it's about music, pictures, footage or something else...

Quote from: JimP on March 06, 2017, 13:07

Quote from: Herg on March 06, 2017, 10:59
Over a cliff big time. Absolutely trashed my sales. I fear this is the law of diminishing returns.

In 2010 you wrote this. Seems like nothing much has changed? Did you ever get much accepted at SS?

Quote from: Herg on December 02, 2010, 16:44
Terrible month. Photo sales have dropped every month this year so far. Dec up to now is even worse. Absolutely awful.

So are you in denial that SS sales have nosedived in the last month ? Have you read the forums ? Since they changed the site.

And for your interest I get almost every image accepted.

Quote from: Herg on March 06, 2017, 17:18

Quote from: JimP on March 06, 2017, 13:07

Quote from: Herg on March 06, 2017, 10:59
Over a cliff big time. Absolutely trashed my sales. I fear this is the law of diminishing returns.

In 2010 you wrote this. Seems like nothing much has changed? Did you ever get much accepted at SS?

Quote from: Herg on December 02, 2010, 16:44
Terrible month. Photo sales have dropped every month this year so far. Dec up to now is even worse. Absolutely awful.

So are you in denial that SS sales have nosedived in the last month ? Have you read the forums ? Since they changed the site.

And for your interest I get almost every image accepted.

That was my mistake reading you said you couldn't get accepted. Now I see that everything is getting accept good.

Quote from: Herg on October 30, 2011, 14:12
I am on my 4th attempt in getting into SS and have been advised to downsize the images I submit. Should I do this ?

Quote from: Herg on January 01, 2012, 10:24
Some of my images that have been refused are on the basis of lighting or WB. Am I allowed to re-submit without being suspended ? I am reluctant because there is no option of writing a note to the reviewer.

Quote from: Herg on December 19, 2011, 14:32
Yep but at this rate I won't have nearly as many files up on SS as I do on IS because of the high number of rejections. The reviewer yesterday passed a lot. TOday's reviewer was the opposite. Will it be worth being on SS with much less files ? I don't know but it won't hurt to try.

and you asked about getting into ft and dt. Just wondered how that all went when you dropped exclusive?

Quote from: Herg on March 06, 2017, 17:18

Quote from: JimP on March 06, 2017, 13:07

Quote from: Herg on March 06, 2017, 10:59
Over a cliff big time. Absolutely trashed my sales. I fear this is the law of diminishing returns.

In 2010 you wrote this. Seems like nothing much has changed? Did you ever get much accepted at SS?

Quote from: Herg on December 02, 2010, 16:44
Terrible month. Photo sales have dropped every month this year so far. Dec up to now is even worse. Absolutely awful.

So are you in denial that SS sales have nosedived in the last month ? Have you read the forums ? Since they changed the site.

And for your interest I get almost every image accepted.

It's only denial if it's true, and a few threads in a forum with a very small percentage of total contributors saying that their sales have nosedived... isn't exactly conclusive evidence.

Quote from: SpaceStockFootage on March 07, 2017, 01:43

Quote from: Herg on March 06, 2017, 17:18

Quote from: JimP on March 06, 2017, 13:07

Quote from: Herg on March 06, 2017, 10:59
Over a cliff big time. Absolutely trashed my sales. I fear this is the law of diminishing returns.

In 2010 you wrote this. Seems like nothing much has changed? Did you ever get much accepted at SS?

Quote from: Herg on December 02, 2010, 16:44
Terrible month. Photo sales have dropped every month this year so far. Dec up to now is even worse. Absolutely awful.

So are you in denial that SS sales have nosedived in the last month ? Have you read the forums ? Since they changed the site.

And for your interest I get almost every image accepted.

It's only denial if it's true, and a few threads in a forum with a very small percentage of total contributors saying that their sales have nosedived... isn't exactly conclusive evidence.

There is a big difference between "sales on SS have nosedived" and "sales for me and my friends have nosedived". The most reliable source we have are SS's own figures which tell us sales have increased.

There is little doubt that anybody but a full-timer somebody that depends on stock-photography will ever see nor feel any difference in the ups and downs. When you start paying the bills from stock alone thats when you start questioning things.
As a full time photographer you are forced to keep a much closer track on whats going on visiting other forums reading articles and so on. You sort of learn to spot conspiracy theories from the real thing.

Quote from: derek on March 07, 2017, 07:02
There is little doubt that anybody but a full-timer somebody that depends on stock-photography will ever see nor feel any difference in the ups and downs. When you start paying the bills from stock alone thats when you start questioning things.
As a full time photographer you are forced to keep a much closer track on whats going on visiting other forums reading articles and so on. You sort of learn to spot conspiracy theories from the real thing.

So you believe SS are lying to the authorities? They would be in prison for fraud. I don't dispute your sales may be falling the fact is SS aren't.

Quote from: Pauws99 on March 07, 2017, 07:08

Quote from: derek on March 07, 2017, 07:02
There is little doubt that anybody but a full-timer somebody that depends on stock-photography will ever see nor feel any difference in the ups and downs. When you start paying the bills from stock alone thats when you start questioning things.
As a full time photographer you are forced to keep a much closer track on whats going on visiting other forums reading articles and so on. You sort of learn to spot conspiracy theories from the real thing.

So you believe SS are lying to the authorities? They would be in prison for fraud. I don't dispute your sales may be falling the fact is SS aren't.

Well I was actually only referring to daily takings earnings and sort order changes. Havent got a clue of what you are talking about?? I must have missed something?

"So are you in denial that SS sales have nosedived in the last month ? " if you had said "So are you in denial that MY SS sales have nosedived in the last month ? " fair enough but there is no evidence that SS sales have fallen. Thats the point