Author Topic: Drop in Traffic Rank of the Shutterstock (Read 10274 times)

Ivan12 · « **on:** June 16, 2013, 08:49 »

Drop in Traffic Rank of the Shutterstock (using alexa.com)

Old chart:

New chart with falling:

The last time this level was in 2010. You can see it on the old chart.
What do you think why is this happening?
Maybe it will comment on the Shutterstock representatives?

ShadySue · « **Reply #1 on:** June 16, 2013, 08:51 »

Join the speculation here:
http://www.microstockgroup.com/general-stock-discussion/alexa-falling-traffic-on-all-sites-reasons/msg323448/?topicseen#new

Ron · « **Reply #2 on:** June 16, 2013, 10:07 »

Consider this. Yuri had about 3-4000 dls per day at some point. Lets say those were all subs.

Average 3500/25=140 different buyers per day. Yuri left Shutterstock, taking his portfolio which attracted 4200 buyers, probably a lot more, per month.

That and the changes in the Google search which cuts off traffic to the site.

sharpshot · « **Reply #3 on:** June 16, 2013, 10:42 »

Wont most of the Yuri buyers be satisfied with the many Yuri clones that were encouraged to join SS by Yuri?

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #4 on:** June 16, 2013, 10:57 »

That's right, it's definitely the Yuri effect. From late February onwards buyers were fleeing SS in droves fearing that on May 16 he would reveal that he was switching to Getty.

gemmy12 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 16, 2013, 10:58 »

Don't think Yuri is the only reason... otherwise istock's graph should increase at least a little bit. In fact traffic of all major micro sites are following same falling trend

Ron · « **Reply #6 on:** June 16, 2013, 11:30 »

I didnt say he is the only reason. Its just something to consider. I didnt say it was fact either.

I am not affected by any of the doom and gloom anyway. At least not noticeable

ruxpriencdiam · « **Reply #7 on:** June 16, 2013, 15:30 »

Same chart posted on SS late last night and probably related to Yuri leaving.

Look at when the drop started, right when Yuri left.

When Yuri left the traffic at SS left as well and probably why people with the Yuri type ports are complaining of piss poor sales and those without the Yuri style ports are hooting and hollering Yay!

Charts and graphs don't ☺

Ron · « **Reply #8 on:** June 16, 2013, 15:45 »

Quote from: gemmy12 on June 16, 2013, 10:58

Don't think Yuri is the only reason... otherwise istock's graph should increase at least a little bit. In fact traffic of all major micro sites are following same falling trend

Well in that case its the Google imperium that causes the drop. GL is almost going bust over it.

luissantos84 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 16, 2013, 15:49 »

in the next hours somebody (don't know who) will say RM is the new sh!t (again)

sharpshot · « **Reply #10 on:** June 16, 2013, 16:14 »

It's far more likely to be Google than Yuri. I'm sure most buyers have more than one account and wouldn't leave SS just because they can no longer get images from 1 contributor.

The chart shows that all the sites have lost traffic, hopefully they will find a way to get most of it back soon.

lisafx · « **Reply #11 on:** June 16, 2013, 16:19 »

It certainly seems to coincide with the google changes. Wonder what all these buyers are doing? Grabbing images illegally off google and using them for free?

topol · « **Reply #12 on:** June 16, 2013, 16:37 »

My sales are improving even with no uploads for almost 1.5 months now, except for 123rf.

Ron · « **Reply #13 on:** June 16, 2013, 17:07 »

Quote from: lisafx on June 16, 2013, 16:19

It certainly seems to coincide with the google changes. Wonder what all these buyers are doing? Grabbing images illegally off google and using them for free?

Not all traffic converts in buyers. Maybe the windowshopper's traffic is dropping, the actual buyers still need to go to the site to purchase.

gostwyck · « **Reply #14 on:** June 17, 2013, 05:12 »

Quote from: ruxpriencdiam on June 16, 2013, 15:30

Same chart posted on SS late last night and probably related to Yuri leaving.

Look at when the drop started, right when Yuri left.

When Yuri left the traffic at SS left as well and probably why people with the Yuri type ports are complaining of piss poor sales and those without the Yuri style ports are hooting and hollering Yay!

Charts and graphs don't ☺

Duh! Even if the numbers quoted by Yuri's father were accurate and consistent Yuri would only account for a little more than 1% of downloads on SS.

Most of SS customers are subscribers to monthly, quarterly or annual plans. Even if they did decide to go elsewhere due to lack of Yuri's portfolio (unlikely) there would be a lag of some months before that effect showed up in statistics __ if indeed it ever did. Being as SS have been growing at the rate of about 30% a supposed 'Yuri drop' of 1% would be easily absorbed within a couple of weeks natural growth.

With Yuri's portfolio gone the existing subscribers would simply choose other business and lifestyle clones of his work (of which there are millions). Therefore, if anything, people with 'Yuri-style ports' should be experiencing a significant boost to their sales.

Ron · « **Reply #15 on:** June 17, 2013, 05:48 »

Quote

a little more than 1%

Almost 2%. Significant enough

sharpshot · « **Reply #16 on:** June 17, 2013, 07:18 »

Quote from: Ron on June 17, 2013, 05:48

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a little more than 1%
Almost 2%. Significant enough

I'm sure like most contributors, Yuri made nearly all his money from a small percentage of his portfolio. Those very popular images would be the ones the clones were doing as well. So it's probably much less than 1% that SS is now missing.

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #17 on:** June 17, 2013, 07:52 »

Did Yuri really quit SS three months before going pseudoexclusive at iS? I didn't know that. I thought it all happened at the same time. Seems a foolish waste of earnings on his part.

ShadySue · « **Reply #18 on:** June 17, 2013, 08:39 »

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on June 17, 2013, 07:52

Did Yuri really quit SS three months before going pseudoexclusive at iS? I didn't know that. I thought it all happened at the same time. Seems a foolish waste of earnings on his part.

He hadn't uploaded any photos at iStock since 29th March (most recent Urilux file, with an audio from 4/4)
The first photo file in his Yuri_Arcurs port is dated 21st May (though there are several videos from April).
Maybe he was focussing on PeopleImages in the intervening 8 weeks, or spending all his time in negotiations (though surely he has uploading elves).

BaldricksTrousers · « **Reply #19 on:** June 17, 2013, 08:47 »

Quote from: ShadySue on June 17, 2013, 08:39

Quote from: BaldricksTrousers on June 17, 2013, 07:52
Did Yuri really quit SS three months before going pseudoexclusive at iS? I didn't know that. I thought it all happened at the same time. Seems a foolish waste of earnings on his part.
He hadn't uploaded any photos at iStock since 29th March (most recent Urilux file, with an audio from 4/4)
The first photo file in his Yuri_Arcurs port is dated 21st May (though there are several videos from April).
Maybe he was focussing on PeopleImages in the intervening 8 weeks, or spending all his time in negotiations (though surely he has uploading elves).

But if he was still at all the other micros until late May then clearly he has little or nothing to do with the change in the recorded traffic which started to drop at the end of February.

Tror · « **Reply #20 on:** June 17, 2013, 10:30 »

I think Yuri is quite irrelevant when it comes to such an extend of traffic numbers. People have just this Yuri fetish and tend to focus on People more than on numbers. I guess most buyers don`t even notice his disappearance.

Ron · « **Reply #21 on:** June 17, 2013, 11:36 »

I think its a combination of things that need to be considered, thats why I mentioned his departure. But since the drop is across the board, it has to be related to the new way Google is displaying images on their own page now.

ppdd · « **Reply #22 on:** June 17, 2013, 11:53 »

This can't have anything to with Yuri leaving. SS Alexa ranking is about 500 now, and it was 1000 in 2010, so it's still up...

I'm guessing Google was overvaluing microstock results - images for sale used to flood the image results, probably because they were properly described and easy to classify, and agencies were gaming the systems a little bit. Now images that come up are not all watermarked - so agency results have been depreciated, perhaps overly so. There may be course corrections to come, but they were clearly overvalued before.

Tror · « **Reply #23 on:** June 17, 2013, 12:28 »

Quote from: ppdd on June 17, 2013, 11:53

This can't have anything to with Yuri leaving. SS Alexa ranking is about 500 now, and it was 1000 in 2010, so it's still up...

I'm guessing Google was overvaluing microstock results - images for sale used to flood the image results, probably because they were properly described and easy to classify, and agencies were gaming the systems a little bit. Now images that come up are not all watermarked - so agency results have been depreciated, perhaps overly so. There may be course corrections to come, but they were clearly overvalued before.

Very good and objective evaluation...might be (part of?) the truth....

Milinz · « **Reply #24 on:** June 18, 2013, 06:24 »

Quote from: sharpshot on June 16, 2013, 16:14

It's far more likely to be Google than Yuri. I'm sure most buyers have more than one account and wouldn't leave SS just because they can no longer get images from 1 contributor.

The chart shows that all the sites have lost traffic, hopefully they will find a way to get most of it back soon.

All sites have lost traffic because alexa changed the way it collects and google changed the way it views. Not because traffic dropped.

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Author Topic: Drop in Traffic Rank of the Shutterstock (Read 10274 times)

Ivan12

ShadySue

Ron

sharpshot

BaldricksTrousers

gemmy12

Ron

ruxpriencdiam

Ron

luissantos84

sharpshot

lisafx

topol

Ron

gostwyck

Ron

sharpshot

BaldricksTrousers

ShadySue

BaldricksTrousers

Tror

Ron

ppdd

Tror

Milinz

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