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Title: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: Uncle Pete on October 11, 2021, 11:40
Duck Thread SS forum March 2010 (until it's gone, or maybe they will leave it and lock access?)

https://forums.submit.shutterstock.com/topic/45949-all-rejected-due-to-sharpneness/

On 3/25/2010 at 2:12 PM, spopho said:
These look pretty sharp to me. Ducks fly at fifty mph, so SS doesn't have many good shots of these birds in flight. I realize there is noise, but that isn't the issue with these shots. No sharpening was applied.

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Member "Posted March 25, 2010
Focus is definatley OOF and yes there is noise and there are some people here who stop Jet Aircraft in their tracks and they are razor sharp."

OP "Look, Troll. Jets are 100 times easier to shoot than ducks. Absolutely, no comparison. I've done both. For one thing, you are a half a mile from the jet, and it is way more predictable than a duck. A fairer comparison would be trying to pan a fighter taking off from a flight deck 20 feet away. Also, your eyesight blows. Thanks for your reply."

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Member 2 "Posted March 25, 2010
Sorry, after your last comment I decided you are not looking for help, just a fight. I withdraw my critique."

OP "Take your brand of help somewhere else."

Member 3
"These are Mallards. Common as muck.
There is no excuse to not photograph a mallard perfectly, else let the little old ladies or kids do it with ther cellphones.
Capture one, put it in the studio, set up five strobes, and then you might have a mallard photo that can compete.
These are not sharp, they are full of noise and not worth a dispute."

 OP "Look, Moron. These are in the wild and in flight. They are far from common."

OP (after more name calling)

"I only bite those that want it. I love photographing ducks and they sell. There really aren't a lot of good pics of ducks in flight. The pics I posted here are consistent in quality with the ones in my port. In some cases they are better. I didn't apply noise reduction, either, because I would rather leave that up to the buyer. These obviouly weren't taken in the studio, nor could they have been, so noise is always going to be an issue (these are action shots). I thought in my original post I told the noise trolls to remove that issue from there little brains."

The OP is gone, never returned, but the topic was turned into a joke that went on for 15 pages of laughs. And I mean fun about rejections, duck photos, speed, blur, and not just about the OP.

ps, this shot of mine, probably posed, easy to track, and much slower than a 50MPH duck?  ::)

(https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/barn-swallows-hirundo-rustica-flying-600w-2008106021.jpg)
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: thijsdegraaf on October 11, 2021, 12:10
Yes Nice!!
Mallards (Anas platyrhynchos), male Feral Mallard (Anas platyrhynchos forma domestica)
In the netherlands in the past, the male mallards had a shiny green neck and head. But because the females, males also liked the domestic ducks, you now see hybrids like these mallards

My ducks don't sell, but I photographed a few especially for the topic.  :)

(https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/mallards-anas-platyrhynchos-male-feral-600w-1939592770.jpg)
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: Caymia on October 11, 2021, 17:16
Ahh, the duck thread!
I expect it will disappear in a few days so here's my duck contribution to the new thread  ;D
(https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/female-adult-white-campbell-domestic-600w-1106599991.jpg)
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: Uncle Pete on October 12, 2021, 12:20
Some referred to it as the fowl thread too? Or was that a foul thread?

This is a duck?

(https://i.postimg.cc/kXgJDMzH/and-another-thing-dithpicable.jpg)
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: Microstockphoto on October 12, 2021, 16:58
that place was a cess pit, everyone was rude under the guise of 'just honest critique', it was not, it was a place full of bigheads seeing it as an oportunity to completely trash anyone with a subpar photo. the place was not to help people but to put people down, all under the leadership of rinder,, who is a bang average photographer himself, and just manages to use one filter setting on photoshop for every portrait image he ever took. and barry blackburn couldnt take a proper photo himself but thought he was the authority on giving critique, yet all he could write was OOF.  and i could go on and on. might as well post the thread where 'seasoned' photographers were bikkering over the colour of the sky. one said cyan the other said blue and it caused ww3. so many 'classic' threads, but in reality it was all just blown up egos thinking they were better than everyone else. who was that guy from UK, couldnt figure out where he ended and rinder started, so far he was up rinders anus. so many vile persons on that forum. i think the only level headed person on there was that ex cop, shot some nice food stuff, but then turns out he conspired with rinder about leaving the forum only to come back again, leave again and then got banned or something, the drama queens. hahaha, what a soap opera
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: For Real on October 12, 2021, 17:25
What the Duck! So glad I never joined the SS forum!
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: thijsdegraaf on October 13, 2021, 01:16
that place was a cess pit, everyone was rude under the guise of 'just honest critique', it was not, it was a place full of bigheads seeing it as an oportunity to completely trash anyone with a subpar photo. the place was not to help people but to put people down, all under the leadership of rinder,, who is a bang average photographer himself, and just manages to use one filter setting on photoshop for every portrait image he ever took. and barry blackburn couldnt take a proper photo himself but thought he was the authority on giving critique, yet all he could write was OOF.  and i could go on and on. might as well post the thread where 'seasoned' photographers were bikkering over the colour of the sky. one said cyan the other said blue and it caused ww3. so many 'classic' threads, but in reality it was all just blown up egos thinking they were better than everyone else. who was that guy from UK, couldnt figure out where he ended and rinder started, so far he was up rinders anus. so many vile persons on that forum. i think the only level headed person on there was that ex cop, shot some nice food stuff, but then turns out he conspired with rinder about leaving the forum only to come back again, leave again and then got banned or something, the drama queens. hahaha, what a soap opera

Didn't notice, but I think you're talking about before my time.
At least I never read negative things in the Duck thread. Unfortunately here it is
Pete tries to post a nice topic and you use it to show all your frustrations about all the negative things you've been through. Who's negative here? Pete or You?
If this is the vibe at Microstock, I'm out of here.

Except the Duckthread I liked the threads with photos that told of the history in the area where you live and with insect and spider photos (my hobby). But I also did enjoy looking at other people's photos that they were proud of. But not all of that has to come back.
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: RalfLiebhold on October 13, 2021, 03:05

Didn't notice, but I think you're talking about before my time.
At least I never read negative things in the Duch thread. Unfortunately here it is
Pete tries to post a nice topic and you use it to show all your frustrations about all the negative things you've been through. Who's negative here? Pete or You?
If this is the vibe at Microstock, I'm out of here.

I totally agree with you, Thijs. Since I've been in the Shutterstock forum, the tone has been very friendly (mostly) and the contributions are mostly helpful, so the forum bashing here is difficult for me to understand too.
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: Dodie on October 13, 2021, 03:16
that place was a cess pit, everyone was rude under the guise of 'just honest critique', it was not, it was a place full of bigheads seeing it as an oportunity to completely trash anyone with a subpar photo. the place was not to help people but to put people down, all under the leadership of rinder,, who is a bang average photographer himself, and just manages to use one filter setting on photoshop for every portrait image he ever took. and barry blackburn couldnt take a proper photo himself but thought he was the authority on giving critique, yet all he could write was OOF.  and i could go on and on. might as well post the thread where 'seasoned' photographers were bikkering over the colour of the sky. one said cyan the other said blue and it caused ww3. so many 'classic' threads, but in reality it was all just blown up egos thinking they were better than everyone else. who was that guy from UK, couldnt figure out where he ended and rinder started, so far he was up rinders anus. so many vile persons on that forum. i think the only level headed person on there was that ex cop, shot some nice food stuff, but then turns out he conspired with rinder about leaving the forum only to come back again, leave again and then got banned or something, the drama queens. hahaha, what a soap opera
Not that I will ever miss the "show-me-threads" but you are doing exactly what you describe others have done, you are rude!
You could speak your mind over there too but it is much safer under the cover of anonymity, isn't it?


I see you are familiar with the SS forums' history, at least a part of it.
What is/was your name over there?I bet you are one of those:
bigheads seeing it as an oportunity to completely trash anyone ........... to put people down...........
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: Suspect on October 13, 2021, 07:49
Thijs, Ralf: it's historic and unfortunately some people seem to be still so filled with venom (on the various SS threads here) that they can't move on.

Yes, in the past, before your time, there was acrimony caused by particular personalities, but that is long past.

In the last couple of years the tone of the SS forums has been polite, supportive, friendly and, despite what others seem to believe, the discussions are mainly about stock and photography.

In fact, I can think of very little that has been discussed other than these two subjects.

It is a great loss to those who actually contribute to it but not to those who are lost in the past.
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: thijsdegraaf on October 13, 2021, 08:21
Thijs, Ralf: it's historic and unfortunately some people seem to be still so filled with venom (on the various SS threads here) that they can't move on.

Yes, in the past, before your time, there was acrimony caused by particular personalities, but that is long past.

In the last couple of years the tone of the SS forums has been polite, supportive, friendly and, despite what others seem to believe, the discussions are mainly about stock and photography.

In fact, I can think of very little that has been discussed other than these two subjects.

It is a great loss to those who actually contribute to it but not to those who are lost in the past.



Thank you.
Nice to see you here Ralf.

For Pete   ;):

(https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/mallards-anas-platyrhynchos-male-female-600w-1939468261.jpg)
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: Microstockphoto on October 13, 2021, 09:05
ow my word, ss cult in full force on here now, f*ck me, byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: Microstockphoto on October 13, 2021, 09:07
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At least I never read negative things in the Duck thread.

the first page is full on personal attacks from the get go lol
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: Suspect on October 13, 2021, 10:21
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At least I never read negative things in the Duck thread.

the first page is full on personal attacks from the get go lol

The first page of the link above is called 'All Rejected due to Sharpness'.  It isn't the 'Duck Thread' which was in 'Show and Tell'.

The first page that you are referring to is from 2010.  That's 11 years ago.

11 years ago is irrelevant now.
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: thijsdegraaf on October 13, 2021, 10:21
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At least I never read negative things in the Duck thread.

the first page is full on personal attacks from the get go lol

That's 100 years ago. Pete had rebooted it on Shutterstock too about a year ago. No one reacted negatively to that like you.
Again.,, all photo topics are not necessary for me either. But let the past rest. For a lot of people it's a thing of the past and a lot like Ralf and I haven't even experienced it. Only sometimes heard from an old Shutterstocker.
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: gnirtS on October 13, 2021, 18:09
Just realised i have no ducks in my portfolio at all.

Somehow i missed this rite of passage.

If it ever stops raining i need to go out and find some ducks to shoot.
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: marthamarks on October 14, 2021, 02:21
Just realised i have no ducks in my portfolio at all.

Somehow i missed this rite of passage.

If it ever stops raining i need to go out and find some ducks to shoot.

Geez, even I have ducks in my port, and I live in the desert!
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: Suspect on October 14, 2021, 04:43
Just realised i have no ducks in my portfolio at all.

Somehow i missed this rite of passage.

If it ever stops raining i need to go out and find some ducks to shoot.

It's meant to be with a camera, not a gun ...
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: gnirtS on October 14, 2021, 07:28
Gun mounted camera?
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: Suspect on October 14, 2021, 07:52
Gun mounted camera?

I don't think you've quite got the idea yet ...  :)
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: UPLOAD-UPLOAD-UPLOAD on October 14, 2021, 08:09
(https://i.postimg.cc/25XG4LSL/AA-DSC-5633-Dx-O.jpg)
My contribution is the Whistling Duck
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: thijsdegraaf on October 14, 2021, 09:09

My contribution is the Whistling Duck

Nice!!
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: Dumc on October 14, 2021, 12:51
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Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: UPLOAD-UPLOAD-UPLOAD on October 14, 2021, 12:54
Tiptoe Through the Tulips
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: JMcI on October 15, 2021, 23:40
Tiptoe Through the Tulips

He can't go any quacker...
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: Uncle Pete on October 18, 2021, 12:44
Just learned about this one

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.1mgy1O7bQpYCAWuAN2burAEYDe?pid=ImgDet&rs=1)

Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: Repelsteeltje on October 24, 2021, 02:04
Just realised i have no ducks in my portfolio at all.

Somehow i missed this rite of passage.

If it ever stops raining i need to go out and find some ducks to shoot.

Geez, even I have ducks in my port, and I live in the desert!

I was wondering where all the ducks went.  ;D There is a pond in front of my house where there used to be ducks, but they seemed to have all disappeared ::)
My theory is that they were chased away/illiminated by the some agressive (but innocent looking) coots. No proof so far, but I will get to the bottom of this.   8)
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: thijsdegraaf on October 24, 2021, 08:44
Just realised i have no ducks in my portfolio at all.

Somehow i missed this rite of passage.

If it ever stops raining i need to go out and find some ducks to shoot.

Geez, even I have ducks in my port, and I live in the desert!

I was wondering where all the ducks went.  ;D There is a pond in front of my house where there used to be ducks, but they seemed to have all disappeared ::)
My theory is that they were chased away/illiminated by the some agressive (but innocent looking) coots. No proof so far, but I will get to the bottom of this.   8)

With us you sometimes see the coots and mallards together. Here Mallards last winter along with one coot (Find the coot). In the other photo the coots are fleeing, but I think it was because they didn't want to be in the photo.  :)

(https://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-mallards-and-common-coot-in-winter-in-an-ice-free-part-of-a-ditch-with-ice-in-the-dutch-village-of-1915569319.jpg)

(https://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-eurasian-coots-fulica-atra-also-known-as-the-common-coost-or-australian-coots-walking-across-1916594927.jpg)
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: thijsdegraaf on January 21, 2022, 04:15
We last saw mallards in our garden in 2013. Then I was able to take better pictures. It was now 10 o'clock in the morning and cloudy. Anyway, I took a picture through the window for the duck topic. Won't put it up for sale.   ;)
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: S2D2 on January 21, 2022, 05:24
Lovely to get them in your garden Thijs.

Here is a Mallard couple resting and nesting:

Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: thijsdegraaf on January 21, 2022, 06:08
Lovely to get them in your garden Thijs.

Here is a Mallard couple resting and nesting:

Lovely too. Also nice to see how male and female are together outside the breeding season.
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: cascoly on January 21, 2022, 14:09
Harlequin Duck swimming in surf ( Histrionicus histrionicus  )  near Otter Rock on the Oregon coast A bird of fast-moving water, the Harlequin Duck breeds on fast-flowing streams and winters along rocky coastlines in the crashing surf.
(http://cascoly.com/images/140420-346c-500.jpg)

Baby ducklings with one black one, in the weekly Canakkale market,  Turkey
(http://cascoly.com/images/140523-794-500.jpg)
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: S2D2 on January 21, 2022, 14:15
Nice images Steve.

We have harlequin ducks too.

That's a very histrionic name.
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: cascoly on January 21, 2022, 14:23
that name's right there with the grizzly -- Ursus arctos horribilis

as griz & polar bear habitats converge, hybrids, may be the salvation for endangered polar bears
https://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/meet-polar-bear-tomorrow (https://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/meet-polar-bear-tomorrow)
Title: Re: Duck Thread a moment in SS forum history
Post by: thijsdegraaf on January 21, 2022, 14:24
Harlequin Duck swimming in surf ( Histrionicus histrionicus  )  near Otter Rock on the Oregon coast A bird of fast-moving water, the Harlequin Duck breeds on fast-flowing streams and winters along rocky coastlines in the crashing surf.


Baby ducklings with one black one, in the weekly Canakkale market,  Turkey


I didn't know this beautiful duck. Unfortunately does not occur with us.