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« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2021, 09:45 »
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The estimated Net Worth of Stan Pavlovsky is at least $13.8 Million dollars as of 10 March 2021.
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Nice and we don't earn enough to buy props, backgrounds pay for travel etc. And we should sit hours on the computer editing, keyboarding uploading all without getting paid. They must really laugh at us stupid slaves. 


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« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2021, 09:47 »
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The estimated Net Worth of Stan Pavlovsky is at least $13.8 Million dollars as of 10 March 2021.

Nice and we don't earn enough to buy props, backgrounds pay for travel etc. And we should sit hours on the computer editing, keyboarding uploading all without getting paid. They must really laugh at us stupid slaves.
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We do have the ability to remove our images but millions are standing in line to replace us.

« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2021, 10:26 »
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The estimated Net Worth of Stan Pavlovsky is at least $13.8 Million dollars as of 10 March 2021.

Nice and we don't earn enough to buy props, backgrounds pay for travel etc. And we should sit hours on the computer editing, keyboarding uploading all without getting paid. They must really laugh at us stupid slaves.

We do have the ability to remove our images but millions are standing in line to replace us.
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I am already thinking about removing images that cost me a lot of money. Millions are standing in line? Do they have nothing better to do with their spare time than working for free or ending up paying more into it than they get from the agencies? I had bought 3 backgrounds shortly before SS dropped us down to 10 cents. Now I am furious with myself that I did that. My new images with the new backgrounds are not even selling. None of my new images are.

« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2021, 10:34 »
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The new compensation model allows contributors to receive a true percentage share from each download, rewarding content creators for producing quality work that is fresh, relevant and currently in demand by our customers.

This sums up SS...by the way, the port is full of stolen images.....

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/Rockkss


Have you reported it to SS or don't they care?

I did...3 years ago.....and they don't care.

I can see why any agency doesn't care, unless they are forced to care as in legislation or massive lawsuits it's more profit for them when the stolen goods are trafficked so real incentive for them plus it would cost them as they need staff to manually deal with it.




Please learn to start your posts after the quote you make the forum look like crap.

I agree with you, but in peoples defense, sometimes quoting just doesnt work right.  I work on an iPad and have trouble with the way quoting works. Sometimes it just doesnt work right.

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« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2021, 11:03 »
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I agree with you, but in peoples defense, sometimes quoting just doesnt work right.  I work on an iPad and have trouble with the way quoting works. Sometimes it just doesnt work right.

I wondered about that, maybe on a small screen the line below the quote doesn't show up, and people start typing inside the message? Lucky me, I'm usually on a desktop.   8)

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« Reply #30 on: December 22, 2021, 15:24 »
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I agree with you, but in peoples defense, sometimes quoting just doesnt work right.  I work on an iPad and have trouble with the way quoting works. Sometimes it just doesnt work right.

I wondered about that, maybe on a small screen the line below the quote doesn't show up, and people start typing inside the message? Lucky me, I'm usually on a desktop.   8)

I thought I was typing below the quote, might have screwed up a few times.

« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2021, 17:04 »
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Yes, Exiting Times are also already announced to me figuratively. I am looking forward to it so much...
I like it being able again to rise up in a level.
Because now I was a stuck in a current level.


Today my shutterstock RPD is $0.105. Looking at this, I don't have to worry seriously about downgrading from level 5 to level 1. It doesn't change that much at all....

« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2021, 19:28 »
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I got in contact with a few and they have so many downloads that they do earn money. They do get donations and since it is a donation, a gift they don't even pay tax on that income. ..... What really frustrates me is that she doesn't have to pay tax while we get nothing compared to what she makes and from that nothing we pay tax. I can't understand how that whole business model is legal. Someone should take that to court and get it shut down.

the IRS may have a different opinion about such  'donations'

https://www.thebalance.com/do-you-have-to-pay-taxes-on-crowdfunded-money-4773839

« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2021, 19:29 »
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I thought I was typing below the quote, might have screwed up a few times.

i always try to remember to use the preview button

« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2021, 04:06 »
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I got in contact with a few and they have so many downloads that they do earn money. They do get donations and since it is a donation, a gift they don't even pay tax on that income. ..... What really frustrates me is that she doesn't have to pay tax while we get nothing compared to what she makes and from that nothing we pay tax. I can't understand how that whole business model is legal. Someone should take that to court and get it shut down.

the IRS may have a different opinion about such  'donations'

https://www.thebalance.com/do-you-have-to-pay-taxes-on-crowdfunded-money-4773839

Not just the IRS. It will probably be different from country to country, but in most countries you will have to pay taxes for non charitable "donations". It's only really a donation per definition if it is given as gift to a nonprofit organization to help it accomplish its goals. What free images sites might call donations are really per definition voluntary payments for a service/product, more comparable to a tip to a waitress, so you have to pay taxes on it. That some people simply don't do it doesn't mean they don't have to.
« Last Edit: December 23, 2021, 04:08 by Firn »

Uncle Pete

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« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2021, 10:57 »
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I got in contact with a few and they have so many downloads that they do earn money. They do get donations and since it is a donation, a gift they don't even pay tax on that income. One lady does a lot of composites and her images are really magical. She earns more than I do. I wouldn't be able to do what she does. It's truly awesome. She is a microstock photographer but all her bestseller on the free websites are composites. She has 3 times as many images on that website than I have on microstock. It's families, normal people who donate a lot not companies. She really deserves it for all her hard work and composites but I do not support this at all. I will not give my images away for free. Apart from that they have their images stolen and other people downright use her images and pretend that they took them or made them. Think about it, you put your images up for free and other people put them under their own name on microstock. Maybe they do it because the money is tax free and they earn more money that way. She shared with me how much she had earned in the last week and it left me really speechless. No, I am not jealous. Her composites are really hard work and awesome. What really frustrates me is that she doesn't have to pay tax while we get nothing compared to what she makes and from that nothing we pay tax. I can't understand how that whole business model is legal. Someone should take that to court and get it shut down.

Interesting. I think donations are taxable income, unless someone is a non-profit. But we don't know if Pexels monitors or does accounting for donations? If so, you can be sure the IRS is interested.  ;) Tips for servers, for example, are recorded, reported and taxable income.

How is giving away images for free, illegal? Maybe stupid and maybe some people actually do get donations, but why is it illegal? The sites make money from page views and clicks, as a simple example. The sites make no promises of money for the artists. I think it's a long way from taking advantage of peoples hope and aspirations to illegal.

Maybe I just don't understand what you mean and there is something illegal?

Nope I don't have any ill feelings for people who think they can make money for free views, including the ones who actually do make money.


 

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