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Agency Based Discussion => Shutterstock.com => Topic started by: Semmick Photo on March 31, 2015, 05:12

Title: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: Semmick Photo on March 31, 2015, 05:12
Related to this thread and news http://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/shutterstock-increase-print-limits-to-500-000-and-other-changes/ (http://www.microstockgroup.com/shutterstock-com/shutterstock-increase-print-limits-to-500-000-and-other-changes/)

Interesting to find out and for future comparison, to see if the new print run allowance has an effect on ELs.

I remember when I joined SS the average number of downloads per EL for most contributors was around 500 dls. This has been true for me over the past 3 years. I am averaging 600 downloads per EL.

How many downloads on average do you need to get 1 EL?

Please vote in the poll, if there is a discrepancy, please let me know and I will edit the poll.

Thanks,
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: Me on March 31, 2015, 05:34
For the last 18 months or so mine has been between 150 - 180 so should that go under 100 or 200?

I voted under 1 per 200
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: Noedelhap on March 31, 2015, 05:46
Past 18 months:

1 EL per 700  dls on average. (1:701)

Past 36 months:

1 EL per 1000 dls on average.  (1:992)

All time:

1 EL per 800 dls on average.  (1:828)
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: BigBubba on March 31, 2015, 05:49
1 EL around every 250 dls


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Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: Imagenomad on March 31, 2015, 05:50
1 per 200 (actual = 1:196) equating to ~28% of my earnings.
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: OM on March 31, 2015, 06:01
I get 1 EL per 550 dl's but SOD's income is double that of EL $$ (Total SS earnings). Not many EL's or substantial SOD's recently. Whilst, total dl's are increasing slightly, $$$ are decreasing.
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: Sebastian Radu on March 31, 2015, 06:08
I get 1 EL per 550 dl's but SOD's income is double that of EL $$ (Total SS earnings). Not many EL's or substantial SOD's recently. Whilst, total dl's are increasing slightly, $$$ are decreasing.

Exactly the same thing happens in my case  >:(
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: dpimborough on March 31, 2015, 06:16
1 enhanced download for every 470 is about average for me
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: dirkr on March 31, 2015, 06:20
1 EL per 270 downloads.
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: Steveball on March 31, 2015, 06:29
1 enhanced download for every 470 too.
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: Stock Wife on March 31, 2015, 06:31
This is just for shutter stock, right? I was surprised to see my numbers so relatively favorable (2 out of 334 downloads in my short lifetime of stock).
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: dpimborough on March 31, 2015, 07:38
This is just for shutter stock, right? I was surprised to see my numbers so relatively favorable (2 out of 334 downloads in my short lifetime of stock).

I never got an EL from any other agency so Shutterstock it must be :)
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: ultimagina on March 31, 2015, 07:47
1 EL for exactly 300 DL
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: panicAttack on March 31, 2015, 08:10
1 EL per 670 dl
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: sgoodwin4813 on March 31, 2015, 08:34
1 per 350 DLs at SS is an EL
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: zimmytws on March 31, 2015, 09:25
I had been averaging about 1 EL for every 500 DLs, then starting in November 2014, they completely dried up. I havent had an EL since Oct 28th, despite averaging over 1000 DLs per month since then.
I just went into my SS settings to make sure I am still opted in to ELs, and it showed that I was. But I opted out, then opted back in anyway, just in case it was "stuck".  To have over 6000 DLs without an EL seems very odd to me after averaging 2-3 per month for years.   :(
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: Uncle Pete on March 31, 2015, 09:30
Interesting, I thought I was doing poorly as far as ELs. 1 in 337 from 2008 through 2014 totals. Had to pick the closer number 1:300

But as someone probably pointed out we all have different content, subjects and primary areas. (or should?) Some people may have images that lend themselves better to EL use? I have no Editorial ELs and roughly 85% of my images on SS are Editorial now.

I'm fairly sure all mine are for illustrations or line drawings, not photos.
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: grandaded on March 31, 2015, 09:43
I only have a small port, but have had 4 ELs from 508 sales in the last six months (1:127). Looks like I should be reasonably pleased with that ratio.
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: Sean Locke Photography on March 31, 2015, 09:55
Out of 2400 downloads in March, I had 2 enhanced downloads.
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: hansenn on March 31, 2015, 12:26
1 per 610 all time
1 per 420 this year
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: ultimagina on March 31, 2015, 14:41
1 EL for exactly 300 DL
I just got an EL, right now, so my life time number will be slightly better than 1:300
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: sobm on April 01, 2015, 00:24
Feb and Mar got no returns in el for thousands of dls >:( :-\ ;D
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: sobm on April 01, 2015, 00:27
Out of 2400 downloads in March, I had 2 enhanced downloads.
Sean, you just got 2400 dls in Mar?I thought you do much better than that :o
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: OM on April 02, 2015, 20:02
Interesting, I thought I was doing poorly as far as ELs. 1 in 337 from 2008 through 2014 totals. Had to pick the closer number 1:300

But as someone probably pointed out we all have different content, subjects and primary areas. (or should?) Some people may have images that lend themselves better to EL use? I have no Editorial ELs and roughly 85% of my images on SS are Editorial now.

I'm fairly sure all mine are for illustrations or line drawings, not photos.

That seems to be the determining factor. I get the impression (but it's no more than that) that ELs  go more frequently to cityscapes especially those at night. Having said that, I occasionally get one for a food shot or picture frame.
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: sgoodwin4813 on April 02, 2015, 22:55
Interesting, I thought I was doing poorly as far as ELs. 1 in 337 from 2008 through 2014 totals. Had to pick the closer number 1:300

But as someone probably pointed out we all have different content, subjects and primary areas. (or should?) Some people may have images that lend themselves better to EL use? I have no Editorial ELs and roughly 85% of my images on SS are Editorial now.

I'm fairly sure all mine are for illustrations or line drawings, not photos.

That seems to be the determining factor. I get the impression (but it's no more than that) that ELs  go more frequently to cityscapes especially those at night. Having said that, I occasionally get one for a food shot or picture frame.

I've had ELs for all kinds of images including isolations and editorial but almost never cityscapes and never one at night (despite having some in my port that get good DLs).  I have had cityscapes get lots of SODs before, especially those at night, but not much on ELs.  I assume it varies a lot for all of us.
Title: Re: Extended Licence (EL) on average compared to DLs
Post by: wordplanet on April 02, 2015, 23:40
1:121 all time
1:93 past 15 months