Author Topic: Foundstock is back and all our SS images are being given away for free (Read 37679 times)

guy · « **Reply #100 on:** December 21, 2017, 15:13 »

I'm selling vectors. They were offering a free download of my vector file, no watermark. However, I just tried to go to FoundStock and get a page that just says "down" so maybe they finally got it resolved?

Quote from: JimP on December 20, 2017, 04:03

Quote from: paulvg on December 19, 2017, 15:10
I am PISSED. I want an explanation Shutterstock. A significant amount of my vector portfolio is being given away for free on FoundStock with YOUR LOGO ON IT.

If you can't keep my images secure, I'm bailing on you.

With the logo on it? Watermark. What do you want then to do, go turn off the internet? Anything on anyplace can be copied with the watermark on it, that's the protection. SS isn't the only one and turning off your collection doesn't stop anything, doesn't hurt the theifs, doesn't bother SS, it only hurts yourself. Next month the same people will complain how income is down. You can't make money unless your work is for sale.

I wish there was a way to stop the theives. I liked the idea of writing to their host and isp becasuse legal isn't going to stop them where they are. The laws can't be enforced in some countries, maybe the country is getting paid to look the other way.

Thomas from France · « **Reply #101 on:** December 21, 2017, 15:44 »

Quote from: cathyslife on December 20, 2017, 16:33

Quote from: ravens on December 20, 2017, 16:24
How many of you have deactivated your ports? I think that's something SS might notice, if more and more contributors do the same.
I deactivated my port and let SS know the reason why.

I still feel sick looking at my photos on that F***stock site, thousands of images, distributed FREE by these thieves.

I did. Not because I think SS will care, or that anyone else will be willing to give up their pennies. I just don't want to do business with a company that makes millions, and yet knowingly lets this continue. I deactivated to give them the time thru the holidays to fix. If they don't, I will probably close my account and focus on another port that is doing better.

Cathy, your images are indeed desactivated but i managed to access them via sets.

cathyslife · « **Reply #102 on:** December 21, 2017, 16:07 »

Quote from: Thomas from France on December 21, 2017, 15:44

Quote from: cathyslife on December 20, 2017, 16:33
Quote from: ravens on December 20, 2017, 16:24
How many of you have deactivated your ports? I think that's something SS might notice, if more and more contributors do the same.
I deactivated my port and let SS know the reason why.

I still feel sick looking at my photos on that F***stock site, thousands of images, distributed FREE by these thieves.

I did. Not because I think SS will care, or that anyone else will be willing to give up their pennies. I just don't want to do business with a company that makes millions, and yet knowingly lets this continue. I deactivated to give them the time thru the holidays to fix. If they don't, I will probably close my account and focus on another port that is doing better.

Cathy, your images are indeed desactivated but i managed to access them via sets.

Thanks for the heads up. I will see if I can delete those sets. And I hope SS has gotten it sorted. I don't make much from them, but it all helps. EDIT: I have unpublished my sets.

cathyslife · « **Reply #103 on:** December 21, 2017, 16:48 »

I am also only seeing the word "down" when I go to the thief site. They must be busy getting a new url...i am sure they will pop up somewhere else. Until SS says they have fixed their code, it doesn't really matter because it will just continue happening. 😡

Hannafate · « **Reply #104 on:** December 22, 2017, 09:36 »

Considering how often SS has claimed to have "fixed" something they really haven't, I won't believe them if they say they have fixed their code.

ravens · « **Reply #105 on:** December 22, 2017, 11:13 »

Just checked, F*stock is back on.

Hannafate · « **Reply #106 on:** December 22, 2017, 12:36 »

derek · « **Reply #107 on:** December 26, 2017, 14:00 »

I'm sure this is one of the main reasons why SS is on a downhill slope for some time now and I can't see it ever recover from this. Reason being you kill off this site and another two, three will materialize and what about all the pirates we dont find?

SS dont care because these thieves give exposure and sooner or later they imagine people will start downloading for real. Good for them but worthless for us.

Rage · « **Reply #108 on:** December 26, 2017, 22:37 »

Quote from: derek on December 26, 2017, 14:00

I'm sure this is one of the main reasons why SS is on a downhill slope for some time now and I can't see it ever recover from this. Reason being you kill off this site and another two, three will materialize and what about all the pirates we dont find?

SS dont care because these thieves give exposure and sooner or later they imagine people will start downloading for real. Good for them but worthless for us.

Hardly, people who're not willing to shell out some bucks for an image that someone spent effort on are not going to spend bucks on them in the future

Plus SS just needs to be vigilant. One site means that there is already an image leak.

JimP · « **Reply #109 on:** December 28, 2017, 14:56 »

Quote from: derek on December 26, 2017, 14:00

I'm sure this is one of the main reasons why SS is on a downhill slope for some time now and I can't see it ever recover from this. Reason being you kill off this site and another two, three will materialize and what about all the pirates we dont find?

SS dont care because these thieves give exposure and sooner or later they imagine people will start downloading for real. Good for them but worthless for us.

SS is not on a downhill slope, my income keeps growing. The thieves are mostly beggars who wouldn't buy anything anyways. Real business and customers will not steal our work and would fear what happened if they get caught. Bad for legitimate business and websites. Yes exposure pays nothing.

You told us removed your best selling pictures, you say stopped uploading long ago, you have only a little over 2000 images on SS but you keep saying they caused the problem. Don't your own actions, cutting your own income count into that? Or are you just looking for a way to blame them when you caused most of the problem. Everybody knows you need to upload to keep active and you took away your best selling. Of course your sales will be down.

Pirates aren't the problem, you and your bad attitude are.

derek · « **Reply #110 on:** December 28, 2017, 15:41 »

Agreeing Jim! 110% and you seem to know lots about pirates and theft!! I dont need SS but you do! thats the difference here.

ndtdnc · « **Reply #111 on:** December 28, 2017, 23:27 »

I confirm Foundstock is gone

But they can download images with Facebook watermark. Is it ok?

ravens · « **Reply #112 on:** December 29, 2017, 04:32 »

JimP is wrong.

Shutterstock is going down. The best contributors, professionals, are either leaving Shutterstock or are left already. Businesses and serious buyers are moving on to reputable agencies which are not infested with thieves and hackers. A stock agency that openly allows hacking and stealing is not a reputable business or a secure website.

Left are hobbyists who produce repetitive, mediocre images with cheap gear and are happy if they get 2 more random sales a day.

By the way: SSTK share is -7,38% in 1 year.

SS is going down.

dpimborough · « **Reply #113 on:** December 29, 2017, 05:00 »

Quote from: ravens on December 29, 2017, 04:32

JimP is wrong.

Shutterstock is going down. The best contributors, professionals, are either leaving Shutterstock or are left already. Businesses and serious buyers are moving on to reputable agencies which are not infested with thieves and hackers. A stock agency that openly allows hacking and stealing is not a reputable business or a secure website.

Whats your source? How do you know these contributors and buyers are leaving?

derek · « **Reply #114 on:** December 29, 2017, 08:24 »

Quote from: ravens on December 29, 2017, 04:32

JimP is wrong.

Shutterstock is going down. The best contributors, professionals, are either leaving Shutterstock or are left already. Businesses and serious buyers are moving on to reputable agencies which are not infested with thieves and hackers. A stock agency that openly allows hacking and stealing is not a reputable business or a secure website.

Left are hobbyists who produce repetitive, mediocre images with cheap gear and are happy if they get 2 more random sales a day.

By the way: SSTK share is -7,38% in 1 year.

SS is going down.

Very true indeed! and you must have the same info as me?? was to be expected, no surprise!...thank * for the RM and the Boutique agencies!

Dumc · « **Reply #115 on:** December 29, 2017, 09:29 »

You poor baby.

YadaYadaYada · « **Reply #116 on:** December 29, 2017, 10:01 »

Quote from: derek on December 28, 2017, 15:41

Agreeing Jim! 110% and you seem to know lots about pirates and theft!! I dont need SS but you do! thats the difference here.

You're right for me too, SS is my biggest earner, I wouldn't remove my files and stop uploading to spite my own earnings. Since you do so much in trads and RM I don't know why you have any Micro at all. If we're all so terrible and FT and SS are just down the dumps, why don't you leave?

derek · « **Reply #117 on:** December 29, 2017, 10:14 »

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on December 29, 2017, 10:01

Quote from: derek on December 28, 2017, 15:41
Agreeing Jim! 110% and you seem to know lots about pirates and theft!! I dont need SS but you do! thats the difference here.

You're right for me too, SS is my biggest earner, I wouldn't remove my files and stop uploading to spite my own earnings. Since you do so much in trads and RM I don't know why you have any Micro at all. If we're all so terrible and FT and SS are just down the dumps, why don't you leave?

Come on why should I leave? isnt it better to just leave a port as it is and earn. The port I have in micro is a micro port and completely different from my port at the boutique agencies.
Yes same as everybody else I complain about earnings, just something to rant about isnt it.

Yourself and Jim are earning great at SS, good! way to go!

JimP · « **Reply #118 on:** December 29, 2017, 16:13 »

Quote from: derek on December 29, 2017, 10:14

Quote from: YadaYadaYada on December 29, 2017, 10:01
Quote from: derek on December 28, 2017, 15:41
Agreeing Jim! 110% and you seem to know lots about pirates and theft!! I dont need SS but you do! thats the difference here.

You're right for me too, SS is my biggest earner, I wouldn't remove my files and stop uploading to spite my own earnings. Since you do so much in trads and RM I don't know why you have any Micro at all. If we're all so terrible and FT and SS are just down the dumps, why don't you leave?

Come on why should I leave? isnt it better to just leave a port as it is and earn. The port I have in micro is a micro port and completely different from my port at the boutique agencies.
Yes same as everybody else I complain about earnings, just something to rant about isnt it.

Yourself and Jim are earning great at SS, good! way to go!

yes thank you, I was just gong to ask you what I should do instead since you laugh at micro hahaha, we're all stupid, but you know better. You didn't leave your port as it is, you say you removed your best pictures and stopped uploading. Then you complain about dropping sales. Isn't that a self defeating creation of your own unhappiness.

derek · « **Reply #119 on:** December 30, 2017, 03:30 »

Jim! I appreciate what youre saying but the thing is the overall majority not only here but everywhere complain over lack of exposure and lack of sales of new uploads. I know a guy way up in the SS admin and he tells me thats the way it is and will be for a long time. I cant see any point in uploading commercial value images under those conditions.
Reason I remove images is because I think they are better suited in the more traditional agencies.

I know you and you also have long experience and know that nothing last forever. Theres been many great years in micro-stock and the first three/four years we were earning bundles but like everything it slows down to lets say " normal".

Anyway the big culprit in all stock-photography isnt SS but Getty. They still after all these years seem to set some sort of a trend in how to con contributors to upload for minimal returns. If an agency output can't match your input then whats the point? working on short term profit thinking isnt exactly my thing.

Anyway a Good new year to you!

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