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What I don't get is that these thieves hurt SSs bottom line too. I would think they would want to find a fix.  I am baffled.
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For every dollar we lose they lose three (or more).  I'm also baffled by the inaction. 

I dont buy any of this crap! I think SS is fully aware and have been from the start of these thieving sites but, well...you know when you get as big as that, ....you really dont give a sheit do you, the lolly still keeps coming in...in droves!  sod the contributors!

besides Semmick is right, you close one up pops another three!  you cant win!  I recon all advertising is good advertising and if thieves keep showing your images they recon its going to generate sales, sooner or later??

Defeatest crap, I don't know why some people bother getting out of bed in a morning.

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I dont buy any of this crap! I think SS is fully aware and have been from the start of these thieving sites but, well...you know when you get as big as that, ....you really dont give a sheit do you, the lolly still keeps coming in...in droves!  sod the contributors!

besides Semmick is right, you close one up pops another three!  you cant win!  I recon all advertising is good advertising and if thieves keep showing your images they recon its going to generate sales, sooner or later??

Defeatest crap, I don't know why some people bother getting out of bed in a morning.

Sent out any cease and desist communications yourself then?

My images of course, more than you can shake a stick at, the last one ironically was at Shutterstock .  I do a trawl of the internet about once a year, drives you mad if you can't let it go for a while. 
This is not about my images though, it's about our images and if we all notify Shutterstock every time we see another site pop up we have more chance of something being done don't you think?

It will drive you mad because there will always be another site to pop up. (wacka-mole). How many ads or blogs do you see with a watermark too?

I gave up sadly BUT I stopped submitting to shutterstock and looking for a more "secure" agency for my images.

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I gave up sadly BUT I stopped submitting to shutterstock and looking for a more "secure" agency for my images.

How are you getting on at Arcangel (if you don't mind me asking)?.

I'm at 574 images and no sales yet...

Try Trevillion instead, same sort of agency as arcangel but much bigger and bigger sales!

I just went over and looked at Arcangel.  Talk about all "vroom" and no "zoom"!

The site is very pretty, with lots of cute presentation tricks that make it a pain in the ass to find any useful information in.  It's like swimming in loose pages.  The contributor information is presented as a catalogue with pages to flip.  You can't search for key phrases to get to what you want to know.  Everything has to load, Flash has to be activated, it's a mess.  The "help desk" link is maximum 404. 

If they spend this much bandwidth and coding on promoting themselves to contributors (who don't need to be sold to, since we are actively looking for outlets) the buyer end must be hellish.

I wouldn't expect to sell much there.

I have about 70 images and no sales at Arcangel. Maybe I'm not doing it right ...
https://www.arcangel.com/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult&VBID=2U1HZOQJK390P

Nicely done. Clearly you invest a lot of time and effort into each image.

I got in touch with the Director of Arcangel Michael Mascaro about a year ago when I had 174 images and he had the following advice:

Your email regarding sales was forwarded to me. I've looked over your images and it's a great start to a portfolio but 174 images is only a start (especially when you consider that 50 images is the absolute minimum we accept as a first submission). Submit regularly, add the correct location details to your images and ensure you have uploaded the necessary model/property releases and the sales will
start to come in.

A year has passed and since 400+ accepted images...still waiting..

Here's a link to my portfolio:

https://www.arcangel.com/C.aspx?VP3=SearchResult&VBID=2U1HZOO9ZKGI#/SearchResult&VBID=2U1HZOQ3UAC8Q

I looked at Trevellion but I find that my style suits Arcangel more since i like producing artsy dark imagery. Trevellion seems to be more like Stocksy (if I'm not mistaken). Also, quite difficult to get in.

Angela: Did you know that within Arcangel you have the option to submit to a non-exclusive gallery? It's called "NX". So you could submit to Arcangel and other Rights-Managed galleries. I've started doing that because I can't wait forever to get earn. 

I am PISSED. I want an explanation Shutterstock. A significant amount of my vector portfolio is being given away for free on FoundStock with YOUR LOGO ON IT.

If you can't keep my images secure, I'm bailing on you.

You can deactivate your port. Then, if/when Shutterstock fixes this, you can turn it back on. You will be stopping your images from being stolen, but you will not sell images, either. Which in most cases is no great loss because sales at shutterstock are in the toilet anyway. Why would anybody buy when they can get them for free.

So many days and this thing is still live..

How amazing if any contributor do anything wrong or copyright even with one image, then their portfolio is immediately banned.

And if ss do same thing even after knowing the fact its hurting contributors, no immediate action is being carried out.

Awful

Yeah you terminate one and another three pops up!. its a losing game. As far as SS is concerned I am sure they look upon this as any advertising is good and will sooner or later result in business, for them!!  not for us!....or else they would have done something about it long ago.

How many of you have deactivated your ports? I think that's something SS might notice, if more and more contributors do the same.
I deactivated my port and let SS know the reason why.

I still feel sick looking at my photos on that F***stock site, thousands of images, distributed FREE by these thieves.

I did. Not because I think SS will care, or that anyone else will be willing to give up their pennies. I just don't want to do business with a company that makes millions, and yet knowingly lets this continue. I deactivated to give them the time thru the holidays to fix. If they don't, I will probably close my account and focus on another port that is doing better.

I have wrote yesterday and today on the shutterstock support and send all links to the illegal sides.
I�m curious about the reaction.

It ist time to form a organisation which represents the interest of stock photographer !
I wil think about this, maybe I have a idea.

Anything yet???