Agency Based Discussion > Shutterstock.com
Got a warning for calling Jon Oringer's photos "suck"
cascoly:
--- Quote from: dunstun365 on July 04, 2021, 04:48 ---..
Yes, thousands of ppl. in the 3rd world working for a pittance for SS I bet. ...
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There are more things in heaven and Earth, Dunstan, / Than are dreamt of in your obsession with SS
i was referring to among other cases to sweatshops to which major high end brands (US & EU) outsource their textiles, or agbusiness exploiting producers of cacao, coffee & sugar. etc
--- Quote ---I haven't mentioned politics on this forum at all so what you say is crap.
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non-sequitor alert
Uncle Pete:
--- Quote from: dunstun365 on July 03, 2021, 12:50 ---But why should SS make even more money while paying contributors peanuts?
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Because people upload and take the pittance that is paid. If people didn't upload and refused to accept the low pay, the agencies would have to raise our pay, to have materials to sell. Unfortunately for all the philosophy and politics, if artists from around the world, are willing to make videos for 25c and upload images or illustrations for 10c payback... the problem is not stockholders or capitalism or business practices or Jon or the agencies.
Contributors are willing victims, who upload to the agencies of their own free will, and then complain afterwards that we are underpaid?
To paraphrase, because I don't have the exact quote: "If you don't like it, leave." Jon Oringer
Microstock is a commodity, not art or valuable creative work in most cases. A commodity's price is determined primarily by the forces of supply and demand. That's why agencies can and do pay us peanuts.
(was that a helpful answer for you?)
Uncle Pete:
--- Quote from: dunstun365 on July 04, 2021, 04:48 --- I'm blocking you.
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Awe you've gone and hurt his feelings. Why do people write "I've blocked you". Should we care and be notified? Is that some kind of personal reprimand from the top? My view is, just do it, don't threaten. :)
ps for the SS haters, who forget the history or the facts. Getty, who owns iStock, pays us a flat rate of 15% for photos, no levels, no hope of more, and the minimum is 2 cents. Why aren't people shouting about that, every day? I guess it's just too easy to pile on SS and Jon and keep beating on that, them with the encouragement of the angry mob.
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