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Has Shutterstock returned to normal for you?

Started by JetCityImage, August 23, 2018, 23:13

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zeg06

My losses are important.
My sales decreased by 40%

Alex M


Uncle Pete

What is normal and for whom?

Before 2012 normal? From 2012 to 2016 normal, or now with 100 million new images added as competition?

Nothing will ever return to the way it was, so normal is what we have now, and in a couple years "normal" will be something different again. Change is normal...  :)
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gnirtS

You can think of SS as like a nightclub or expensive bar.

Previously there was a dress code and vetted to get in.  Once in you had to meet a minimum standard to stay a useful part.

Now they've axed the door security and the dress code, let everyone in and once in you can do whatever you like as there are no standards.

Net result, millions of new low quality images from new contributors who'd never previously have qualified.

Uncle Pete

Quote from: gnirtS on August 27, 2018, 17:01
You can think of SS as like a nightclub or expensive bar.

Previously there was a dress code and vetted to get in.  Once in you had to meet a minimum standard to stay a useful part.

Now they've axed the door security and the dress code, let everyone in and once in you can do whatever you like as there are no standards.

Net result, millions of new low quality images from new contributors who'd never previously have qualified.

Wonderful analogy  :) Add that they also cut the bartenders wages and lowered drink prices, have a DJ instead of live bands?  ;)
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Your art isn't worth anything unless someone else believes it is.

Video-StockOrg

this would be a laugh if August would be identical in income to July/June/May. Three times in a row is suspicious, but four times in a row? I mean identical, with a $1+-
Professional video stock contributor.

k_t_g


Gannet77

Actually a BME for me on SS.

But then I only do video there.

PZF

Waaayyyy down...
Subs, subs and only subs.....
Can't even afford to pay the fat lady to sing.....
:(

Brasilnut

QuoteSubs, subs and only subs.....

Same here. Might as well be called Subberstock!

gnirtS

Some amazing Spamfolios here:-

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/agiampiccolo?page=1&sort=newest&search_source=base_gallery&language=en

Appears to be 40,000 images of the same thing with only slight changes and mono/colour for each one.

I guess SS dont do rejections for similar any more!

mindstorm

Quote from: gnirtS on August 28, 2018, 16:40
Some amazing Spamfolios here:-

Appears to be 40,000 images of the same thing with only slight changes and mono/colour for each one.

I guess SS doesn't do rejections for similar any more!

That one is indeed mind-blowing.  I HAVE had rejects for too many similar, when I submitted 5 shots of a cheetah in Namibia and they decided the pose was not sufficiently different.

I wonder how long this guy has had those images up, and how he got them there?  Perhaps a few a day, so they don't all flood the same reviewer and are thus not noticed.  Even then, 45,000+???

And more to the point, I wonder what his sales are from this...?

gnirtS

If you go back through the pages (yes, i WAS that bored).

He's got the same shots with the same view dated 2017 and 2018 (yet the same people in same clothing...)

I dont think SS care any more.  I've had 1 similar rejection lately and thats because i accidentally uploaded the same file twice due to FTP delays.

The problem i see with that is if someone else uploads a handful of GOOD "Sicily marina" or whatever photos they'll never get found as the 30 pages of near identical images from this will prevent it.

rinderart

Normal is the day before the IPO. 2012.Sorry, But I hope AS takes over the top spot. I have respect for them and I feel they care about us.....Last 3 Months their beating SS by about 22%

Pauws99

Quote from: gnirtS on August 28, 2018, 17:20
If you go back through the pages (yes, i WAS that bored).

He's got the same shots with the same view dated 2017 and 2018 (yet the same people in same clothing...)


Which is interesting in that some people complain about nit picking model releases...one conspiracy I do buy into is that some people's submissions are "waved through" whether its to reduce costs or something more cunning/dodgy  I don't know.

angelawaye

So very sad to see a portfolio like that. I've passed the "angry" phase. I'm just numb over what SS has done to the company.

I think I may just stick with Adobe for a while. My new work is appreciated (and downloaded) there. There is no motivation to upload to SS anymore for me. Just a complete waste of time.

PZF

I also wonder if they are tinkering with geographical searches again. Either that or the US has completely stopped buying......

leremy

Quote from: gnirtS on August 28, 2018, 16:40
Some amazing Spamfolios here:-

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/agiampiccolo?page=1&sort=newest&search_source=base_gallery&language=en

Appears to be 40,000 images of the same thing with only slight changes and mono/colour for each one.

I guess SS dont do rejections for similar any more!

This is beyond garbage, even worse than the Yoghurt man and Icon Warriors combined.

tiero

Quote from: gnirtS on August 28, 2018, 16:40
Some amazing Spamfolios here:-

https://www.shutterstock.com/g/agiampiccolo?page=1&sort=newest&search_source=base_gallery&language=en

Appears to be 40,000 images of the same thing with only slight changes and mono/colour for each one.

I guess SS dont do rejections for similar any more!

You should open a ticket on shutterstock and ask for explanations about it, we all should do it.

travelstock

Quote from: ShadySue on August 26, 2018, 16:50
So, have the buyers migrated to Adobe or is it 'just' supply outstripping demand, or ... ?

My impression is that there was some search change. The drop started suddenly this month, and may have finished on the 27th - seem to have had a few days of normal sales. Looks like August will finish at about 50% of a regular month.

Zero Talent

Returned? For me, it is "normal" since many years.

Mrblues101

I take a break for microstock about june/july 2016 when i reach my maximum performance, i started to upload again in january 2017 and then nothing was like before.



kelomang

Quote from: travelstock on August 30, 2018, 22:09
Quote from: ShadySue on August 26, 2018, 16:50
So, have the buyers migrated to Adobe or is it 'just' supply outstripping demand, or ... ?

My impression is that there was some search change. The drop started suddenly this month, and may have finished on the 27th - seem to have had a few days of normal sales. Looks like August will finish at about 50% of a regular month.

Whoa, this is exactly what happened to me. For the 27th-29th sales were getting better. But then it dropped again on the 30th. I'm guessing due to another technichal issue that happened late on the 29th.

rinderart

Quote from: angelawaye on August 28, 2018, 22:23
So very sad to see a portfolio like that. I've passed the "angry" phase. I'm just numb over what SS has done to the company.

I think I may just stick with Adobe for a while. My new work is appreciated (and downloaded) there. There is no motivation to upload to SS anymore for me. Just a complete waste of time.

When I saw that I went ballistic and sent a Link to ALEX... Not one word in response.None, Zero. simply amazing. I demanded to Know how this crap happens. zero.And I am seeing More and More Horrible Pictures getting accepted especially Crooked Horizons which personally drives me insane.