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PaulieWalnuts

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« on: August 30, 2007, 22:27 »
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Okay, I've been doing microstock for a month now and I'm learning as I go.

1st SS rejection was mostly "poor framing and poor composure" type of stuff. So I learned more about stock and started taking better shots.  Technical issues weren't the problem.

2nd rejection today was all "noise and artifacts". So now I'm taking decent shots but the technical quality is off. I went from shooting jpeg to RAW/NEF so I'm guessing my RAW workflow is the problem.

For workflow I use PS Elements 5 to open Nikon NEF, convert with Adobe Camera Raw, save as PSD, and then save as jpeg. With the PSD I primarily adjust levels and color settings. I save as jpeg and then use the PSE noise filter to reduce noise. I mostly shoot with a Nikon D50 and a 50mm f/1.8 prime so that should be good enough.

So I'm wondering, what's your workflow and where in the process do you successful SS people reduce noise? With ACR, with PSE, with a jpeg tool like NoiseNinja, all of the above?

Thanks,

Paul


« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2007, 23:14 »
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I'm probably not the right person to answer your questions, simply because I am a fanatic.  On the other hand I have 97% acceptance out of 460 submissions to SS so being a fanatic is sometimes okay (I believe sharply_done has an even higher acceptance rate, but then he isn't human......).

Firstly, your D50 is a noisy camera.  Technology has moved on since then.  Also, with 6mp you are going to eventually have cropping problems as agencies continue to increase the minimum file size requirements over the years.  Upgrade to a D40X if you have the money; the image quality is a huge improvement too.

Every digital camera produces noise and artifacts in some shape or form.  To minimise this, you MUST get the correct exposure.  As soon as you tweak the levels you will introduce problems.  Learn how to 'shoot to the right' and take a small white card with you to judge exposure by exposing for bright white with the histogram.

Turn all your camera settings down to neutral; that's sharpening, saturation etc.

I never use noise reduction software.  Some people use it very successfully.  The key is to not get any noise in the first place.  If you expose correctly you'll minimise the noise.

I always check every image at 200% magnification.  I look for noise and artifacts in shadows, reds and blues.  In fact I check every inch of every image, but then I'm weird.  If I see any slight hint of anything that the image inspectors might interpret as noise or artifacts, I gently smooth that area using a soft brush and Photoshop's smudge tool set at 2% or sometimes 3%.

I don't use RAW.  I found that by getting everything right in the first place my D200 could produce wonderful images as jpegs.

Watch out for sharpening.  Do it in the PSE file before you finally save as a jpeg 12.  I rarely apply sharpening, but when I do it tends to be very small - around 45, 1, 0 or sometimes 65, 1, 0.  If you need to sharpen more than that you'll just introduce more noise and other 'orrible stuff.

If you've got a great picture and noise etc is a problem, the solution is often to reduce it to a point where the problems disappear; okay you end up with only a small image at the agencies but at least it gets there and can sell.  This is where your 6mp is a limitation.  Upgrade to 10mp if you can afford to do so.

Hope this helps.

« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2007, 23:19 »
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Oh - I forgot to mention one of my pet things - TIME.

Better to spend TIME on a picture making it as perfect as possible.  Better to submit ten and get ten accepted than to submit twenty and get them all rejected.

Once accepted, your picture might be available for sale at the agencies for ten years or more.  So spend TIME now to get it as perfect as possible.

I sometimes spend up to two hours processing an image. but then I'm a very sad person......

« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2007, 05:06 »
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... (I believe sharply_done has an even higher acceptance rate, but then he isn't human......).
97% ... that's amazing hatman12!
I've gone on routes with SS when I've had a perfect acceptance rate, but overall I'm "only" in the low nineties.

The only advice I have is to downsize your shots to 4MP, which should help with noise, artifacts, and sharpness.

Good luck with your next SS application, Nazdravie!
« Last Edit: August 31, 2007, 05:13 by sharply_done »

PaulieWalnuts

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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2007, 09:40 »
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Some great tips, thanks! Well, since I'm at 90% rejection, anything that can help get me toward 90% success sounds good to me. I was looking into picking up a D80.

Hopefully third time's a charm.

Paul


 

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