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Title: High reject rate at SS
Post by: sharply_done on November 28, 2007, 00:27
My rejection rate at SS has increased dramatically in my last few batches - anyone else seeing this, or is it just me?
Title: Re: High reject rate at SS
Post by: scrappinstacy on November 28, 2007, 00:29
I haven't had that issue.  If anything, my accept rate has been a bit higher than usual.
Title: Re: High reject rate at SS
Post by: stokfoto on November 28, 2007, 05:42
mine is going ok apart from some ambiguous kw rejections.

I wonder why they rejected your photos,I mean what were  the given reasons ?
Title: Re: High reject rate at SS
Post by: Smithore on November 28, 2007, 06:31
Same acceptance rate since july and almost 100% this month.
Waiting for a  batch of 23 pictures uploaded yesterday...
Title: Re: High reject rate at SS
Post by: louoates on November 28, 2007, 10:51
I too have had an increase in SS rejections. Some of the reasons were so strange and unfounded that I just shake my head. It's as if the reviewer had never seen an image shot in strong directional lighting in the desert. With a "bad white point" comment also when each shot was right-on with a WhiBal card.???

Yet the next shot was accepted by SS even though it was a high key dramatic b&w silhouette shot: http://www.shutterstock.com/pic.mhtml?id=7295830

I would have bet that image would have been rejected for any number or reasons I would have agreed with. And it had a download the first day! Go figure.

Thank goodness I'm not exclusive to any one set of reviewers.
Title: Re: High reject rate at SS
Post by: bbettina on November 28, 2007, 12:39
I upload pretty regularly about 10 pictures within a day of the last batch being reviewed and have seen dramatic swings from batch to batch.  I had some unusually bad days with lots of pictures getting refused for lighting/white balance reasons and the I have days where very similar shots (same model, same shoot, same light setup) get accepted.
I try not to get upset about it but I have to admit - I don't always manage.
Also, review times have been slow - hopefully just a Turkey-Day effect that will go away.
Title: Re: High reject rate at SS
Post by: ManicBlu on December 05, 2007, 15:31
Well goodness I'm glad to see I'm not the only one. As I said in another thread I'm getting lots of rejects there. I've been there since 2005 in fact I started with them. I have some really old crappy images there but I don't delete them because they continue to sell. Not long ago I did delete almost 80 old images but wish now I hadn't because they aren't accepting my new and much better work.

Title: Re: High reject rate at SS
Post by: Pixart on December 05, 2007, 15:38
Oh boy, I had one refused today for composition.   I don't know if I've ever had a composition rejection before!  Have they run out of room, or why are they so fussy with everyone suddenly?
Title: Re: High reject rate at SS
Post by: null on December 05, 2007, 17:00
Ah, I thought I was the only unlucky one that hit the "crazy reviewer". After a year of almost 100% acceptance, my last 2 batches were suddenly rejected with very odd reasons ("jaggies in the illustration when it's a photo etc...) [3 of 3 rejected, 9 of 12 rejected].

Strange is that there were shots from a series that was accepted before (and sells) without any problem. Most rejects were sortof "this is not commercial". A new reviewer?
Title: Re: High reject rate at SS
Post by: a.k.a.-tom on December 05, 2007, 17:30
My rejection rate at SS has increased dramatically in my last few batches - anyone else seeing this, or is it just me?

Yeah.... 100% rejections ( but I only upload 3 or 4 at a time)...
Reasons...  "focus or focus not where we think it should be"   

Whatever... one of the pix in the last batch  is on IS and has sold almost 70 times now in the last 8-9 weeks.      Their loss,  IS's win.  5 other sites sell the image too and it has sold in XL.
         Man how I love selling those out of focus shots! 

I don't bother to protest them either... hey, how can the reviewer be wrong, right?   Ain't no biggie to me, one doesn't want them, another will....     LOL      8)=tom
Title: Re: High reject rate at SS
Post by: null on December 06, 2007, 00:48
I don't bother to protest them either... hey, how can the reviewer be wrong, right?   Ain't no biggie to me, one doesn't want them, another will....

I never object either. SS rejected a few shots of handmade colorful guitars as "not commercial". The full series was accepted yesterday on DT (it used to be the other way round) and one sold 3 days after upload full-size at FP for 6$.

SS used to be right most of the time, and their rejects were mostly technical. They must have hired a reviewer now that thinks he knows what will sell on stock.

What brings me to the philosophical thought: how the heck any reviewer can know what will sell if he is a photographer that relies on his gut feeling and on what sells in his own portfolio? That should be a content editor with a wide experience of the market.

Seems to me that an experienced contributor (with his own style and with his own type of shots) knows best what will sell. Why not let the market decide, and just delete shots after 1-2 years with no downloads?
Title: Re: High reject rate at SS
Post by: anonymous on December 06, 2007, 08:16
cha-ching!
Title: Re: High reject rate at SS
Post by: sharpshot on December 06, 2007, 10:58
I haven't had much of a problem with rejections.  They have started to reject more if they already have lots of that subject.  This doesn't seem sensible, as new photos sell better there than old ones.  I would rather they deleted the old photos than not accept new ones.
Title: Re: High reject rate at SS
Post by: vonkara on December 06, 2007, 19:34
Do I have to say that I like them. They accept about everything I submit and that's my best selling site whit Istock close to. But there's one thing I find a bit not genius.

The reviewer are also contributors most of the time. I would not say that they are mostly all bad. But I heard there was sometime crazy talk to their forum under the critique category. I wonder to know which are real reviewers.

Maybe I have lot of pictures accepted because they are not serious competitors to some of the reviewers one.?
Title: Re: High reject rate at SS
Post by: PaulieWalnuts on December 07, 2007, 07:29
My rejection rate has improved. Last couple of batches had no rejections.
Title: Re: High reject rate at SS
Post by: a.k.a.-tom on December 07, 2007, 17:11
My rejection rate at SS has increased dramatically in my last few batches - anyone else seeing this, or is it just me?
Yeah.... 100% rejections ( but I only upload 3 or 4 at a time)...

And then......   the last batch.... 100% approved! 
                Go figure.   Just for the record in case the SS boss comes on as he has in the past......    overall,  I am very happy with SS. They are my #2 $$ earner.  Only IS surpasses them.  It's just that sometimes the rejections baffle me.  If I were really upset, I wouldn't be uploading twice a week, would I?    8)=tom