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« Reply #500 on: March 11, 2014, 09:01 »
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Well I can assure you they don't make me as much money as IS. Where do you get 16 cents from ? I cant see any single photo sale for my work that is that low. For instance, 3 extra small regular sales show 66,78,76 cents. Not sure why the prices differ for the same file size though but non as low as 33 cents.

its depends on the buyer plan/discount/etc, anyway luck is on your side, I have a Large for 64 cents (Feb 28th)


« Reply #501 on: March 11, 2014, 09:09 »
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How is March so far? It's pretty bad for me....  :(

« Reply #502 on: March 11, 2014, 09:44 »
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Well I can assure you they don't make me as much money as IS. Where do you get 16 cents from ? I cant see any single photo sale for my work that is that low. For instance, 3 extra small regular sales show 66,78,76 cents. Not sure why the prices differ for the same file size though but non as low as 33 cents.

iStock have all sorts of discounts and special deals. The lowest I've received for a 1 credit sale was 8c, that was a while back and you'll find a thread from someone who got 7c for a sale in the archive here (several others chimed in with similar experiences).

I'm not sure how an independent could be getting 70c for an extra-small regular sale. That would mean iStock charging something like $4.60 PER CREDIT, and I'm pretty sure there is no credit package selling at that price. I just checked one of my best-sellers and the normal (now discontinued) XS sale for one credit brought in about 25c on average. My "Small" 2 credit income is showing up at 50c or thereabouts.

There are only two ways I can think of you getting paid as you describe, one is that you are an exclusive who is sneakily selling on SS as well, in which case iSTock would beat SS; the other is that your sales are so low that you are quoting sales prices from nine months ago, before iStock awarded us all a severe pay cut to try to boost its sales.

If someone knows another way to get 75c per credit from a sale there, I would love to know what it is.

(March isn't setting me any records, not good ones, anyway, 60D)

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« Reply #503 on: March 12, 2014, 03:10 »
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I am certainly not exclusive and would never do something so dishonest. Why would I  come on here and mention it if I did ? As soon as I got on SS in Dec 2011 I requested to become unexclusive. Looking at my profile I can see the option with both my sounds and image contributions to become exclusive.

Looking at my last regular large sale I get $1.16. The same regular large file in 2013 earned me just 40 cents. Having said all that I got a great sale day at SS yesterday so that's a positive step. More of that and it will certainly beat IS  :D
« Last Edit: March 12, 2014, 03:31 by Herg »

« Reply #504 on: March 12, 2014, 05:55 »
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I am certainly not exclusive and would never do something so dishonest. Why would I  come on here and mention it if I did ? As soon as I got on SS in Dec 2011 I requested to become unexclusive. Looking at my profile I can see the option with both my sounds and image contributions to become exclusive.

Looking at my last regular large sale I get $1.16. The same regular large file in 2013 earned me just 40 cents. Having said all that I got a great sale day at SS yesterday so that's a positive step. More of that and it will certainly beat IS  :D

Well, you've got me completely confused. $1.13 for a L (four credit) sale is normal. If you got 40c for the same sale last year then at that particular moment you ran into some 10c credits, which happens.

But how on earth did you get a string of approximately 75c sales on 1 credit XS downloads? It just doesn't seem possible. Or have you misidentified M sales as XS?

By the way, if you look at the poll results on the right, you will see that you are unusual in doing better on iS than SS, on average Shutterstock generates three times the cash for indes that iStock does.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2014, 05:58 by BaldricksTrousers »

« Reply #505 on: March 12, 2014, 10:56 »
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I'm hours away from the 38c threshold and quite frankly not looking forward to it - if the result is my port being "switched off" in favor of "newer" or "cheaper" contributors.

In fact SS, would you mind keeping me at my present level and continue the growth please. On the other hand, if my port is not switched off and my earnings continue apace, forget I said anything and have a nice day.

« Reply #506 on: March 12, 2014, 11:08 »
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I'm hours away from the 38c threshold and quite frankly not looking forward to it - if the result is my port being "switched off" in favor of "newer" or "cheaper" contributors.

In fact SS, would you mind keeping me at my present level and continue the growth please. On the other hand, if my port is not switched off and my earnings continue apace, forget I said anything and have a nice day.
Let us know how it goes.

I'm around 7 days from crossing it and am feeling happy and axious at the same time. :D

EmberMike

« Reply #507 on: March 12, 2014, 11:31 »
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I'm hours away from the 38c threshold and quite frankly not looking forward to it - if the result is my port being "switched off" in favor of "newer" or "cheaper" contributors...

It would be insane for SS to do such a thing, and I highly doubt they "switch off" portfolios just because they are in the $0.38 tier. They'd be shutting down all of their best content, the stuff from people who have high sales volume and in-demand images.

I've personally seen no ill effect of being in that tier.

« Reply #508 on: March 12, 2014, 11:39 »
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Howdy,

 My March is bouncing back after a bad Feb. I am about 5% behind my average.

J

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« Reply #509 on: March 12, 2014, 12:01 »
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My sales and earnings continue to grow despite reaching the .38 threshold a while ago. In fact, my earnings per DL continue to rise as more people buy larger licenses. It's now more than double the 25 I started out with...and higher than my earnings per DL at iS, which continue to drop.

I'm sure their search algorithms are much more sophisticated and complex than simply turning off or pushing back higher-priced files. They're looking for the ROI sweet spot, which means ups and downs in everyone's portfolio, IMO.

« Reply #510 on: March 12, 2014, 13:02 »
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I am newbie at micro. I have 120 images at Shutterstock. Three month ago I added 100 images and now my income is about 30.- USD per month for 120 images.
Of course these first 20 images I added several years ago are "dead images" already. Nobody can see them today. I am on lowest royalty level, it is 25 cents. I see some 1,88 USD sales per image too.
Sales are same for three month. Pretty stable.


« Reply #511 on: March 12, 2014, 13:53 »
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My sales and earnings continue to grow despite reaching the .38 threshold a while ago. In fact, my earnings per DL continue to rise as more people buy larger licenses. It's now more than double the 25 I started out with...and higher than my earnings per DL at iS, which continue to drop.

I'm sure their search algorithms are much more sophisticated and complex than simply turning off or pushing back higher-priced files. They're looking for the ROI sweet spot, which means ups and downs in everyone's portfolio, IMO.

I agree. In truth, I expect to see continued growth - simply because there are no indicators (for me personally) to the contrary.

There are bound to be other factors besides algorithm changes and age of ports to be factored in to the decline of some earnings and continual growth in others. What they are is a mystery since, as I am always fond of saying, we do not have a spectrum of data that reinforces any single or group theory beyond our individual port experiences.

Ron

« Reply #512 on: March 12, 2014, 14:28 »
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The whole 0.38c portfolios are being punished is a misconception from several comments from Shutterstock, and a few contributors that spoke to Shutterstock. It has been mentioned that new ports or files are being favored to give them traction. But it has never been said that older ports or 0.38c ports are being switched off. Its a rumour that got to live its own life. A few people now spread this as truth and the word gets spread by others, who take it for fact. At some point it became a 'false truth'.

Read this book, Foucault's Pendulum, its the same effect as what is happening here.

http://www.easons.com/p-2883-foucaults-pendulum.aspx#sthash.aq0UxD0F.hZRnRVj0.dpbs

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After reading too many manuscripts about occult conspiracy theories, three vanity publisher employees (Belbo, Diotallevi and Casaubon) invent their own conspiracy for fun. They call this satirical intellectual game "The Plan". The three become increasingly obsessed with The Plan, and sometimes forget that it's just a game. Worse still, other conspiracy theorists learn about The Plan, and take it seriously. Belbo finds himself the target of a real secret society that believes he possesses the key to the lost treasure of the Knights Templar.


At some point the people who made up 'The Plan' start to believe its actually true.

« Reply #513 on: March 12, 2014, 14:44 »
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« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 23:38 by tickstock »

Ron

« Reply #514 on: March 12, 2014, 14:56 »
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I am not naming names, and its certainly not Lisa. You can read into it whatever you want. Your intentions are clear to me. Try someone else.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2014, 17:30 by Ron »

« Reply #515 on: March 12, 2014, 14:57 »
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It seems clear who you are talking about.

Ron

« Reply #516 on: March 12, 2014, 15:02 »
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Whatever, it can be anybody, but not Lisa.


« Reply #517 on: March 12, 2014, 15:12 »
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Something seemed to happen to the search in January, but February sales were back to normal. Adjustments to searches are a normal part of things. I think SS has said it constantly tweaks its algorithm but it generally seems to happen in subtle ways that aren't immediately apparent (unlike iStock which has severely punished successful contributors with huge search shifts at least twice).
I'm not aware of any signs that SS deliberately tries to undermine my sales just because I'm in the top pay level.

Ron

« Reply #518 on: March 12, 2014, 15:17 »
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Well, January and February were absolutely great for me, consecutive BME. First week of March it continued, and as of last weekend, after the maintenance, my sales are very slow. Only 27 sales per day and less ODDs, when I was touching 40-45 in previous months with lots of ODDs. I am on the 36c level.

EmberMike

« Reply #519 on: March 12, 2014, 16:28 »
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Are you saying lisafx and gbalex are just conspiracy theorists who made up 'The Plan'?  Lisafx has said "There have been reports from many other long term contributors, both here and at SS that the search has changed to favor newer, cheaper contributors."...

Wait... can we just take a look at that sentence for a second? Reports from long term contributors about newer cheaper contributors. I'm a long term contributor. Where in my dashboard can I access this inside info about how newer contributors are doing?

I'm sorry, that just makes no sense. Unless these long term contributors have real info and not just theories about newer contributors being favored somehow, all of it is just that, theories.

« Reply #520 on: March 12, 2014, 16:32 »
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« Last Edit: May 11, 2014, 23:37 by tickstock »

lisafx

« Reply #521 on: March 12, 2014, 16:44 »
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I'm sorry, that just makes no sense. Unless these long term contributors have real info and not just theories about newer contributors being favored somehow, all of it is just that, theories.

Just for the record, I have never claimed to have anything other than a theory.  In fact, I did not originate this theory.  I was responding to another member who was expressing his theory and getting a great deal of skepticism for it.  Since my stats and experience exactly matched his theory, I choose to share that. 

I don't imagine I have any insider info that anyone else doesn't have other than my own stats and observations.  I am making educated guesses about what's going on based on my own experience and that of others I have either spoken to or read. 

Isn't that all any of us can do?  When your sales tank, or soar for that matter, you try to figure out why and collect as much information as you can from what sources are available.  Is that proof?  No.  Are we going to get any "proof"?  Not likely.  This is not a court of law or a gov't inquiry it's a discussion board, and presumably that's what's happening - a discussion.   
« Last Edit: March 12, 2014, 16:56 by lisafx »

Gino

« Reply #522 on: March 12, 2014, 16:50 »
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I have to agree with Ron here. He made a good point. Dont want to offent but to me it also does not sound logical and not proven facts. But thats just my opinion. I am doing very well in stock and am not a newbe anymore and make a full income from stock. I don't see any of this.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2014, 16:57 by Gino »

« Reply #523 on: March 12, 2014, 17:16 »
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I'm sorry, that just makes no sense. Unless these long term contributors have real info and not just theories about newer contributors being favored somehow, all of it is just that, theories.

Just for the record, I have never claimed to have anything other than a theory.  In fact, I did not originate this theory.  I was responding to another member who was expressing his theory and getting a great deal of skepticism for it.  Since my stats and experience exactly matched his theory, I choose to share that. 

I don't imagine I have any insider info that anyone else doesn't have other than my own stats and observations.  I am making educated guesses about what's going on based on my own experience and that of others I have either spoken to or read. 

Isn't that all any of us can do?  When your sales tank, or soar for that matter, you try to figure out why and collect as much information as you can from what sources are available.  Is that proof?  No.  Are we going to get any "proof"?  Not likely.  This is not a court of law or a gov't inquiry it's a discussion board, and presumably that's what's happening - a discussion.   

This is exactly why most people keep quiet about large drops.  Lisa I am sorry you are experiencing the same type of drop and I am sorry that you have been caught up in the digs. I did not mention my drops for months. In the end I brought it up because I don't think I am going to see a recovery and I thought others who are experiencing the same scenario ought to know they are not alone.

It has been almost exactly a year now. It is hard to imagine that after 10 years of consistent and strong sales that the bottom would drop out in just one day and stay there for a year.

It is pretty clear that some would like to assign blame and others would just as soon employ the ostrich metaphor to manage their business. What ever happened I think it is safe to say shutterstock pulled the trigger that caused our images to disappear from the searches. They alone know how and why. We can guess using anecdotal evidence which is all that is left to us.

Goofy

« Reply #524 on: March 12, 2014, 17:25 »
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I am newbie at micro. I have 120 images at Shutterstock. Three month ago I added 100 images and now my income is about 30.- USD per month for 120 images.
Of course these first 20 images I added several years ago are "dead images" already. Nobody can see them today. I am on lowest royalty level, it is 25 cents. I see some 1,88 USD sales per image too.
Sales are same for three month. Pretty stable.

Generally 100 images should produce $20 per month thus you are doing well...


 

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