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Agency Based Discussion => Shutterstock.com => Topic started by: dijkcity on November 24, 2014, 17:00

Title: How do I know what I actually have been sold? SOLVED
Post by: dijkcity on November 24, 2014, 17:00
Hi,

I just sold my first picture for $ 0,25. I know the picture they bought. But for what kinda size did they bought the picture? Or even what kinda license?

Regards,
Dijkcity

I've got the answer, quote from SS:

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25-A-Day Downloads
Buyers subscribe on a monthly basis and can download up to 750 images over the course of 30 days. Your cut? Shutterstock will pay you 25 cents every time one of your images is downloaded, with a tiered set of raises to 33 cents, 36 cents and 38 cents per download as you reach the $500, $3,000 and $10,000 lifetime earning milestones, respectively. This subscription model encourages buyers to download a greater volume of images than they would at most other agencies, and commissions for our submitters can add up fast.
Title: Re: How do I know what I actually have been sold? SOLVED
Post by: Rinderart on November 24, 2014, 20:39
Not really answers your questions But If thats good. Your good.
Title: Re: How do I know what I actually have been sold? SOLVED
Post by: dijkcity on December 11, 2014, 17:51
Indeed, but I especially wondered what kinda license they bought. $ 0,25 sounds like very cheap. It still confuses me, because I don't understand what the differences between subscription and regular downloads are. These subscription downloads are very cheap and they can download A LOT with low costs. What is the big deal there? I could imagine, the usage is very limited.

Today I sold 1 RF (large format) picture on Dreamtime for $ 2,30. Well, that's a big difference. Just 1 picture for large format.

Is there a easy explanation between those licences? Some are just 'a bit' more expensive. The subscription downloads are amazingly cheap. What is going on there?
Title: Re: How do I know what I actually have been sold? SOLVED
Post by: dirkr on December 11, 2014, 17:59
What is going on there?

Volume rebates on steroids.

That's what subscriptions are.
Title: Re: How do I know what I actually have been sold? SOLVED
Post by: dijkcity on December 11, 2014, 18:17
What is going on there?

Volume rebates on steroids.

That's what subscriptions are.

Thanks, does that mean they have the same 'rights' as people without subscription?
Title: Re: How do I know what I actually have been sold? SOLVED
Post by: dirkr on December 11, 2014, 18:26
What is going on there?

Volume rebates on steroids.

That's what subscriptions are.

Thanks, does that mean they have the same 'rights' as people without subscription?

Yes, the license terms are the same.
Title: Re: How do I know what I actually have been sold? SOLVED
Post by: dijkcity on December 11, 2014, 18:30
What is going on there?

Volume rebates on steroids.

That's what subscriptions are.

Thanks, does that mean they have the same 'rights' as people without subscription?

Yes, the license terms are the same.

Allright, thanks Dirkr.  :)
Title: Re: How do I know what I actually have been sold? SOLVED
Post by: PhotoBomb on December 11, 2014, 18:34
It never ceases to amaze me just how many people sign up without reading or understanding the terms and conditions of a legally binding agreement between themselves and the agency. You have to tick a box that says you read and agree to them before you ever submit. And then they come to the forum asking for clarification after the get their first .25 royalty, and are stunned. Unbelievable.
Title: Re: How do I know what I actually have been sold? SOLVED
Post by: dijkcity on December 11, 2014, 18:47
It never ceases to amaze me just how many people sign up without reading or understanding the terms and conditions of a legally binding agreement between themselves and the agency. You have to tick a box that says you read and agree to them before you ever submit. And then they come to the forum asking for clarification after the get their first .25 royalty, and are stunned. Unbelievable.

Not so much unbelievable about that. Since a lot of people using these stock platforms and I'm not a person with 'special terms'. So I can signup without reading these terms, because I know 'they are what they are' and they are not bad. I'm not complaining and arguing the agency, it's curiosity.
Title: Re: How do I know what I actually have been sold? SOLVED
Post by: Noedelhap on December 11, 2014, 18:54
Indeed, but I especially wondered what kinda license they bought. $ 0,25 sounds like very cheap. It still confuses me, because I don't understand what the differences between subscription and regular downloads are. These subscription downloads are very cheap and they can download A LOT with low costs. What is the big deal there? I could imagine, the usage is very limited.

Today I sold 1 RF (large format) picture on Dreamtime for $ 2,30. Well, that's a big difference. Just 1 picture for large format.

Is there a easy explanation between those licences? Some are just 'a bit' more expensive. The subscription downloads are amazingly cheap. What is going on there?


Buyers who don't need large volumes of images will buy single images or On Demand packs for a higher price per image. We'll get more royalty per download if buyers use On Demand or single images, but subscriptions are the regular sales. It's cheap, then again, bigger volumes means you'll get more sales. That's the trade-off.
License terms are the same for all kinds of sales, unless it's an Extended License sale ($28 royalty). Anyway, look it up here: http://www.shutterstock.com/en/subscribe (http://www.shutterstock.com/en/subscribe)

Don't know why I even bother explaining, you should have read it before signing up.
Title: Re: How do I know what I actually have been sold? SOLVED
Post by: dijkcity on December 11, 2014, 19:34
Indeed, but I especially wondered what kinda license they bought. $ 0,25 sounds like very cheap. It still confuses me, because I don't understand what the differences between subscription and regular downloads are. These subscription downloads are very cheap and they can download A LOT with low costs. What is the big deal there? I could imagine, the usage is very limited.

Today I sold 1 RF (large format) picture on Dreamtime for $ 2,30. Well, that's a big difference. Just 1 picture for large format.

Is there a easy explanation between those licences? Some are just 'a bit' more expensive. The subscription downloads are amazingly cheap. What is going on there?


Buyers who don't need large volumes of images will buy single images or On Demand packs for a higher price per image. We'll get more royalty per download if buyers use On Demand or single images, but subscriptions are the regular sales. It's cheap, then again, bigger volumes means you'll get more sales. That's the trade-off.
License terms are the same for all kinds of sales, unless it's an Extended License sale ($28 royalty). Anyway, look it up here: [url]http://www.shutterstock.com/en/subscribe[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/en/subscribe[/url])

Don't know why I even bother explaining, you should have read it before signing up.


Thanks for the clear answer. I'm happy to understand it. I'll probably check out licence terms soon. My rush for uploading refuses me to be patient. Also, I need Google translation for understanding difficult grammar. Even in my own language those terms can confuse me.
Title: Re: How do I know what I actually have been sold? SOLVED
Post by: Noedelhap on December 12, 2014, 07:15
Indeed, but I especially wondered what kinda license they bought. $ 0,25 sounds like very cheap. It still confuses me, because I don't understand what the differences between subscription and regular downloads are. These subscription downloads are very cheap and they can download A LOT with low costs. What is the big deal there? I could imagine, the usage is very limited.

Today I sold 1 RF (large format) picture on Dreamtime for $ 2,30. Well, that's a big difference. Just 1 picture for large format.

Is there a easy explanation between those licences? Some are just 'a bit' more expensive. The subscription downloads are amazingly cheap. What is going on there?


Buyers who don't need large volumes of images will buy single images or On Demand packs for a higher price per image. We'll get more royalty per download if buyers use On Demand or single images, but subscriptions are the regular sales. It's cheap, then again, bigger volumes means you'll get more sales. That's the trade-off.
License terms are the same for all kinds of sales, unless it's an Extended License sale ($28 royalty). Anyway, look it up here: [url]http://www.shutterstock.com/en/subscribe[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/en/subscribe[/url])

Don't know why I even bother explaining, you should have read it before signing up.


Thanks for the clear answer. I'm happy to understand it. I'll probably check out licence terms soon. My rush for uploading refuses me to be patient. Also, I need Google translation for understanding difficult grammar. Even in my own language those terms can confuse me.


Are you Dutch? They have different language versions of their site, licenses and the terms and conditions. Google Translate will make it even harder to understand. http://www.shutterstock.com/nl/subscribe (http://www.shutterstock.com/nl/subscribe)
Title: Re: How do I know what I actually have been sold? SOLVED
Post by: dijkcity on December 12, 2014, 10:11
Indeed, but I especially wondered what kinda license they bought. $ 0,25 sounds like very cheap. It still confuses me, because I don't understand what the differences between subscription and regular downloads are. These subscription downloads are very cheap and they can download A LOT with low costs. What is the big deal there? I could imagine, the usage is very limited.

Today I sold 1 RF (large format) picture on Dreamtime for $ 2,30. Well, that's a big difference. Just 1 picture for large format.

Is there a easy explanation between those licences? Some are just 'a bit' more expensive. The subscription downloads are amazingly cheap. What is going on there?


Buyers who don't need large volumes of images will buy single images or On Demand packs for a higher price per image. We'll get more royalty per download if buyers use On Demand or single images, but subscriptions are the regular sales. It's cheap, then again, bigger volumes means you'll get more sales. That's the trade-off.
License terms are the same for all kinds of sales, unless it's an Extended License sale ($28 royalty). Anyway, look it up here: [url]http://www.shutterstock.com/en/subscribe[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/en/subscribe[/url])

Don't know why I even bother explaining, you should have read it before signing up.


Thanks for the clear answer. I'm happy to understand it. I'll probably check out licence terms soon. My rush for uploading refuses me to be patient. Also, I need Google translation for understanding difficult grammar. Even in my own language those terms can confuse me.


Are you Dutch? They have different language versions of their site, licenses and the terms and conditions. Google Translate will make it even harder to understand. [url]http://www.shutterstock.com/nl/subscribe[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/nl/subscribe[/url])


Thanks! Dat klopt. I'll read them tonight. And hope I could understand it.
Title: Re: How do I know what I actually have been sold? SOLVED
Post by: dpimborough on December 12, 2014, 11:29
Indeed, but I especially wondered what kinda license they bought. $ 0,25 sounds like very cheap. It still confuses me, because I don't understand what the differences between subscription and regular downloads are. These subscription downloads are very cheap and they can download A LOT with low costs. What is the big deal there? I could imagine, the usage is very limited.

Today I sold 1 RF (large format) picture on Dreamtime for $ 2,30. Well, that's a big difference. Just 1 picture for large format.

Is there a easy explanation between those licences? Some are just 'a bit' more expensive. The subscription downloads are amazingly cheap. What is going on there?


Buyers who don't need large volumes of images will buy single images or On Demand packs for a higher price per image. We'll get more royalty per download if buyers use On Demand or single images, but subscriptions are the regular sales. It's cheap, then again, bigger volumes means you'll get more sales. That's the trade-off.
License terms are the same for all kinds of sales, unless it's an Extended License sale ($28 royalty). Anyway, look it up here: [url]http://www.shutterstock.com/en/subscribe[/url] ([url]http://www.shutterstock.com/en/subscribe[/url])

Don't know why I even bother explaining, you should have read it before signing up.


Thanks for the clear answer. I'm happy to understand it. I'll probably check out licence terms soon. My rush for uploading refuses me to be patient. Also, I need Google translation for understanding difficult grammar. Even in my own language those terms can confuse me.


Well one day your "rush for uploading" will end up with you giving away your photos for $0.00 (yes some sites love you to give something and you don't get paid)  ::)

Be professional check the terms and conditions always and then there will not be any surprises!